15,956 over the two days. Folsom likely accounted for at least 40 percent of that number.
Good crowd from Mater Dei fans tonight
Good crowd from Mater Dei fans tonight
Attendance numbers from Sacramento State
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Seems awfully low — couldnt find for life of me but believe wrestling championships get more
Wasn't promoted correctly. Had this event been promoted correctly there would have been double the number attended.
Agree on the Folsom part. That was the only game that a decent crowd showed up for. But of course, they only had a short trip to Sac State. It was pretty cool to watch their send off from school. Thousands of people and a policr escort. Cool stuff!
I spent the money and attended a couple games. I have to be honest.. Sac State is a dump and watching a game with a track in the way is akin to the old domes of the 80's. The snack bar seen was a mile walk and it just doesn't have much of a vibe. The lights go out in the folsom game was icing on the cake. Time to move on.....
I would have rather played at one of the nicer SFL venues that Sac State personally.
How would you promote it differently? We're talking about marketing, not venues. The pre-games publicity was enormous _ and free. Not sure how this thing could get much more in the way of statewide PR.
Promotion isnt the issue. It is cold weather and a lack of HS fans in the area if their team isn't playing. When you see big crowds, it's because the casual fan showed up.
Also TV is the double edge sword.
Also TV is the double edge sword.
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seems quite Low . The mater dei vs SJB game drew almost 12k.
Two first-half mistakes put the Braves in a halftime hole that was too large to climb out of, and the Monarchs derailed Bosco’s title defense with a 49-24 win before a crowd of 11,976 at Cerritos College.
http://www.presstelegram.com/2017/12/02/monarchs-rule-bosco-in-cif-ss-football-championship/
seems quite Low . The mater dei vs SJB game drew almost 12k.
Two first-half mistakes put the Braves in a halftime hole that was too large to climb out of, and the Monarchs derailed Bosco’s title defense with a 49-24 win before a crowd of 11,976 at Cerritos College.
http://www.presstelegram.com/2017/12/02/monarchs-rule-bosco-in-cif-ss-football-championship/
It wasn't that cold streak one. I mean this isn't Ohio or Wisconsin. (the wind did stink) I think TV kills it. Agree 100%. My wife asked me why I was going because it was on TV and I said its important to support HS Sports and my kids like going as well. But i'm in the minority. Plus TV never does being there live justice. Also lets face it the section and regional games a lot of times end up being better and more hyped because they are local. Look at the crowds for some of the MD and SJB /Centennial games down south. Folsom vs Central Fresno had a lot of attendance.
I'm just not a fan of sac state. crappy old metal bleachers and a chopped up layout.
I'm just not a fan of sac state. crappy old metal bleachers and a chopped up layout.
GUYS...I think Streak One has it right...A lack of high school fans has a lotto do with it...Several years ago, when we had the battle at the capitol, the only teams that has a presents was Del Oro and Franklin, Pittsburg ad Granite Bay..there were some awful good teams that were there and their support was awful.. One of tge Orergon teams has more fans then the sacramento teams had....If these games were played at the hmoe teams field, they would have been loaded.
I would have to know more about the specifics and then I could give you a better way to promote these games. It could be time frames, sites/venues, ticket dollar amount and so on and so on. Whatever the case they missed the boat. Things can be bundled or packaged. Off top, $15 per ticket is too expensive. You should be in the $7 to $8 range for singles here. Sell it as a package deal. If you come with another person you get in for $7 instead of $15. This is just a thought, not the final package. But at the end of the day my goal is to fill the stadium and make $$$$ doing it. Once the folks at home see the stadium is packed, they will see this as a huge event and will want to partake in it the following years. This has to become a spectacle in which it is not close to being right now. Word of mouth has always been the best way to advertise and I would have this method on full display at the end of the day.
The Junkie
Point of perspective - Last week I watched the replay of the recent 2017 Hawaii championship between Kahuku - St. Louis on YouTube. At the end they showed the attendance at 22k and change. I may have misread it, 12k maybe but I don’t think so. Even at 12k that’s pretty good attendance. Good game.
I was just gonna say that I recall the attendance down in Carson not being great either.
It's tough when the opponents are foreign to the fans. The average NorCal fan doesn't know the SoCal teams and the SoCal fans don't know the NorCal teams. It's also tough this time of year since it's so close to Xmas. People have family gatherings to attend and shopping to do. Speaking for myself, my family always has a gathering the same Saturday as the games. So it's often difficult to get out there. I was able to go the past 2 years, but not this year.
But when both teams are local and it's a titanic matchup, the attendance is typically good. Everyone remembers the Folsom-Grant game from 2010. 22K for that one at the same venue.
I do agree with @larry legend33 that the food vendors and bathroom situation stinks @ SacSt. But I still go out there when I can. I really think the new soccer stadium in the railyards will be a great place to host if/when it gets built.
You're probably missing at least 4-5000 additional fans for the
two day period that would have shown up if not for TV
coverage the games have now and the CIF,I'm thinking
that attendence is not a main priority since they signed
the spectrum TV contract that pays them approximately,
$550,000 each year for the next 15 years, I believe; for
the rights to televise the two day event, fyi
two day period that would have shown up if not for TV
coverage the games have now and the CIF,I'm thinking
that attendence is not a main priority since they signed
the spectrum TV contract that pays them approximately,
$550,000 each year for the next 15 years, I believe; for
the rights to televise the two day event, fyi
TV does play a huge part. Plus I really think they need to go back to 5 division. Very scattered and watered down as it is now. People lose interest when you put out this many games and an inferior product. Nobody cares about a 8AAA game. CFB has the same issue with way to many bowl games.
Make clear criteria (you need to be a section winner) to get selected and it will mean a lot more and there will be much more interest. I’d be in favor of going to 9 regular season games and and expanding on the regional games. They seem to garner more interest then the SBG games as it is.
Make clear criteria (you need to be a section winner) to get selected and it will mean a lot more and there will be much more interest. I’d be in favor of going to 9 regular season games and and expanding on the regional games. They seem to garner more interest then the SBG games as it is.
Bella you are spot on, but as a society we are in a "Everyone Gets A Trophy Era" The playoff system will never get correct because each section tries to find a way to get the most bids, trophies etc. It would work if CIF implemented a system that was one way only enrollment based with 5-6 divisions. Norcal sent it's best, SoCal did not. Adopting a playoff system the rest of the country used would be outrageous I guess. My guess is SoCal location would generate more attendance due to a greater population down there.
I could care less about a being a section winner/loser, if there is a playoff. Being a section winner in a watered down section is not better than an open-style playoff system. Can simplify it. Have an over 1000 and under 1000 playoff. Larger Sections can send 2 teams per playoff, smaller ones can send 1. League/Section (Oakland/SF) would require to participate in a larger sections playoff if they want to be considered. Now you have a true NorCal state playoff, with SoCal being able to do similar.
Don't get me wrong, I don't particularly like an Open loser moving on --- but hasn't that been happening for years in basketball? I don't follow it a ton, but I'm pretty sure teams that don't win section still qualify for State.
Completely agree about the watered down Regional/State games and it affecting overall interest. But we all predicted that would happen a couple years ago.
Completely agree about the watered down Regional/State games and it affecting overall interest. But we all predicted that would happen a couple years ago.
Yeah TR, I don’t follow the hoops side as much m either. And pretty obvious I’m not a fan of the loser move on and gets rewarded with another game mentality. But hoops at least have several games for regional games. So it is handled more like a semi tournament before you get to play in the state final. Either way it is too diluted now. Need to get back to the basics. Many times less is better. This is a perfect example.
@joebl idea is a reasonable approach to start the process.
Yep, the 1AA, 1A, 2AA, 2A, etc., is bogus. you basically have
two champions for one division, make it - an open DIV, straight
D1-5 and a small school division,that's it.
I think the CIF gets the gate revenue for all the state playoff games as it stands now, so maybe that is why they have so many playoff
divisions as it is now?
two champions for one division, make it - an open DIV, straight
D1-5 and a small school division,that's it.
I think the CIF gets the gate revenue for all the state playoff games as it stands now, so maybe that is why they have so many playoff
divisions as it is now?
