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Folsom vs. Cathedral Catholic for 1AA State Title

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Let's open up the pregame and game thread right here for this HUGE game coming up!

A few fun facts about this match up:

1. The teams have met twice before. Both times in Southern California
2. Folsom won both match ups
3. Both teams are coming into the game playing very well
4. Cathedral's defense is biggest question mark
5. Can Folsom stop Cathedral's high scoring offense
6. DLS laid waste to Cathedral 49-21

CalPreps predicts a 35-31 Cathedral win.
CalPreps Rnaking:
Cathedral- #5
Folsom- #17

We are so lucky to get such a great match up in the 1AA title game this year. I think competitive equity wise, this is a treat for all of us.

Open it up to thoughts!
 
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I think Cathedral wins say 38-24
larry legend33 is always spot on. Patsyfastquick, as usual, has no idea what he is talking about. If DLS leaves their first string in the entire game, I would say more like 56-14 DLS. Folsom is just way outmatched. Hopefully their being 0-6 will make them realize that time to stop playing DLS.

No matter how well Folsom played in their last game vs. Rocklin, they will be boat raced by DLS to the tune of perhaps 49-14. The Spartans will be pissed about the open game selection.

Excellent post. Agree that who DLS has played over the years is light years ahead of Folsom. Lets stop any on line chatter that Folsom is anywhere in the same league as DLS.
You sound legit bro. :)
 
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If Folsom’s D can continue to make it difficult to run they will win.Cathedral has a bruising RB and that’s their offensive focus.Folsom should be able to throw the ball as the OLU QB threw for 400 yards.The OLU RB also had 200 rushing
 
Let's open up the pregame and game thread right here for this HUGE game coming up!

A few fun facts about this match up:

1. The teams have met twice before. Both times in Southern California
2. Folsom won both match ups
3. Both teams are coming into the game playing very well
4. Cathedral's defense is biggest question mark
5. Can Folsom stop Cathedral's high scoring offense
6. DLS laid waste to Cathedral 49-21

CalPreps predicts a 35-31 Cathedral win.
CalPreps Rnaking:
Cathedral- #5
Folsom- #17

We are so lucky to get such a great match up in the 1AA title game this year. I think competitive equity wise, this is a treat for all of us.

Open it up to thoughts!
If Folsom doesn't have an emotional letdown ( a real concern IMO) they are two TDS better than Cathedral I think
 
I think score is a little higher than last few outings for Folsom. I could see 40-30 type game.
Def a winnable game for bulldogs and realistically last 3 opponents Folsom beat were all as good if not better than CC. Folsom playing very confident. CC defense is pretty bad. I don’t expect Folsom will have issues moving chains.

CC back is tough. Will be best RB Folsom faced this season.
 
Lucky to have Great match up? Ok if you say so. I think actual statement is Folsom gets lucky to have these match ups. Context here is really needed, CC had to beat the last place Trinity league team to advance to state bowl game. Let that sink in, had To beat the last place team. Now imagine if SoCal had losers advancing? Sad part is these teams will parade around like they are state champs.
 
Lucky to have Great match up? Ok if you say so. I think actual statement is Folsom gets lucky to have these match ups. Context here is really needed, CC had to beat the last place Trinity league team to advance to state bowl game. Let that sink in, had To beat the last place team. Now imagine if SoCal had losers advancing? Sad part is these teams will parade around like they are state champs.
DLS beat Cathedral by 3 tds if memory serves
 
I think score is a little higher than last few outings for Folsom. I could see 40-30 type game.
Def a winnable game for bulldogs and realistically last 3 opponents Folsom beat were all as good if not better than CC. Folsom playing very confident. CC defense is pretty bad. I don’t expect Folsom will have issues moving chains.

CC back is tough. Will be best RB Folsom faced this season.
Wait- Folsom isn't going to get boat raced?
 
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Lucky to have Great match up? Ok if you say so. I think actual statement is Folsom gets lucky to have these match ups. Context here is really needed, CC had to beat the last place Trinity league team to advance to state bowl game. Let that sink in, had To beat the last place team. Now imagine if SoCal had losers advancing? Sad part is these teams will parade around like they are state champs.
Wow thanks for that info. The last place team in the trinity, well maybe patsy was right that this is truly a weak bowl game. Fact is games have to be played week in and out, but now my homer league the WCAL wouldn’t have a chance.
 
Lucky to have Great match up? Ok if you say so. I think actual statement is Folsom gets lucky to have these match ups. Context here is really needed, CC had to beat the last place Trinity league team to advance to state bowl game. Let that sink in, had To beat the last place team. Now imagine if SoCal had losers advancing? Sad part is these teams will parade around like they are state champs.
So SoCal does allow losers to advance? The last place team almost made it to a state bowl game. That’s like CVC a couple of years back, only they did win out.
 
CC had to beat the last place Trinity league team to advance to state bowl game. Let that sink in,
Not last place.That was JSerra.Even so the next to last place team in the Trinity gave the SDS open champion all they could handle
 
So SoCal does allow losers to advance? The last place team almost made it to a state bowl game. That’s like CVC a couple of years back, only they did win out.
To put it in context if Serra,SF,Folsom or DLS played in the Trinity they all would be considered losers
 
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So SoCal does allow losers to advance? The last place team almost made it to a state bowl game. That’s like CVC a couple of years back, only they did win out.
They don’t allow playoff losers to play on. And that CV team was allowed to drop down a league and then played a D6 or 7 school in the bowl game.
 
Loser mentality would be using that excuse when it easily debunked.
Losers mentality is easily confirmed in multiple articles citing kids attending those schools and going "home" after the semester and football is over. It's all public information to included the use of "host families." It's all there. Not my words.

These schools were all losing title games on the regular before they decided it was cooler than Karen to start transporting kids in. Complete joke.
 
Losers mentality is easily confirmed in multiple articles citing kids attending those schools and going "home" after the semester and football is over. It's all public information to included the use of "host families." It's all there. Not my words.

These schools were all losing title games on the regular before they decided it was cooler than Karen to start transporting kids in. Complete joke.
So post the articles. Go ahead if there are so many should be easy to find. Name a team, a team with 40 plus transfers? Heck name one that has 20, 10, or even 5 that are starting and making a huge difference. Site the rule CIF has for SoCal to allow transfers down there that differs from Norcal? Go ahead lets hear it…..
 
You two argue like 6 year olds.

One of you started this ‘thread‘ and then immediately starts “cutting and pasting” previous incorrect predictions or negative posts from anyone who dares think Folsom might lose, or may have said something negative about Folsom in the past. (Despite the fact that any one of us could “cut and paste“ page after page of incorrect predictions Pasty posted in the past)

The other of you jumps on here regurgitating the same old “it’s the Trinity League’s worst team”, “Nor Cal teams would be lucky to win a game if they were in the Trinity league”, ”These kids should be ashamed to consider themselves State Champs if they win”.

Dude, we get it. Trinity League teams are great. All other football in California sucks and nobody except Trinity teams (and maybe Centennial), should ever consider themselves State Champs.
I know, maybe we can all just sit around a campfire and you can tell us stories of how great the football in the Trinity League is??

At the end of the day, I can’t believe some of us jumped on this thread thinking there could be actual football conversation without the same ole BS comments.

Pasty, give it a rest. Enjoy the ride. I can’t believe you are actually more intolerable as a sore winner than all your years of changing screen names as a poor loser.

SMH
 
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So post the articles. Go ahead if there are so many should be easy to find. Name a team, a team with 40 plus transfers? Heck name one that has 20, 10, or even 5 that are starting and making a huge difference. Site the rule CIF has for SoCal to allow transfers down there that differs from Norcal? Go ahead lets hear it…..
Ask and you shall receive. I will post the articles and exact quote for you to dispute. :)

"The recent CIF rule lets students play immediately when transferring schools if they are able to move their residence. This includes staying with a host family for the school year or football season before transferring back to their original schools second semester. Roggin said Mater Dei and Bosco have let that happen.

Here is the article from the two players attending MD and returning to Rancho Cucamonga after football season: https://www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/la-sp-mater-dei-transfers-20190207-story.html
"Here’s the latest example of things to consider: running back Sean Dollars and defensive back Jeremiah Criddell, two seniors who transferred to Santa Ana Mater Dei from Rancho Cucamonga last spring in time for spring football practice, are back at Rancho Cucamonga. They helped the Monarchs win the Division 1 championship before returning."

Now the best- Transfers! 2018

"Within the highly competitive Trinity League, Mater Dei is No. 1 with 71 transfers listed and, according to Sondheimer, there are more because several football players who arrived this spring are not yet listed on the Southern Section website. Schools may wait until the next school year to send in paperwork to confirm eligibility for fall athletes.

Also contributing to the high number of transfers within the prestigious league are Orange Lutheran with 63, followed by Santa Margarita Catholic at 51, San Juan Capistrano’s JSerra Catholic at 49, Bellflower’s St. John Bosco at 47 and Anaheim’s Servite at 26."

***To get ahead of the next line of garbage you will spill, there is NO difference in transfer rules from NorCal to SoCal. However, NorCal schools simply don't engage in this foolishness. 71 transfers in one year is a disgrace to high school sports.

The difference in rules is between public and private. The loophole for transfers is private schools can simply prove a "valid change of address." This can be the apartment next door. As long as they have simply changed an address, they can go anywhere they please. Public school transfers need a valid change of address WITHIN THAT SCHOOL BOUNDARY. Very different. There is open enrollment, but that is also tied to the enrollment capacity at that school and many other factors and qualifications set out by districts. It is very hard.

Since I've never seen you post a valid link and only troll, I thought I'd school you on some very basic, public information. It is all there for you. It isn't disputable.

Hope you enjoyed the win on Friday! :)
 
Within the highly competitive Trinity League, Mater Dei is No. 1 with 71 transfers listed and, according to Sondheimer, there are more because several football players who arrived this spring are not yet listed on the Southern Section website. Schools may wait until the next school year to send in paperwork to confirm eligibility for fall athletes.

Also contributing to the high number of transfers within the prestigious league are Orange Lutheran with 63, followed by Santa Margarita Catholic at 51, San Juan Capistrano’s JSerra Catholic at 49, Bellflower’s St. John Bosco at 47 and Anaheim’s Servite at 26."
Yes for all sports including all girls sports
MD had Zero (0) transfers to the football team last year
 
You disprove it
I posted proof above.

YOU stated there was zero transfers, not me. The burden of proof is on you, or else you are obviously lying as everyone knows on here.

You are a SoCal football fan on a NorCal football site. You have an agenda.

I am winning.
 
I posted proof above.

YOU stated there was zero transfers, not me. The burden of proof is on you, or else you are obviously lying as everyone knows on here.

You are a SoCal football fan on a NorCal football site. You have an agenda.

I am winning.
If that helps your multiple personality disorder I’m all for you
 
You two argue like 6 year olds.

One of you started this ‘thread‘ and then immediately starts “cutting and pasting” previous incorrect predictions or negative posts from anyone who dares think Folsom might lose, or may have said something negative about Folsom in the past. (Despite the fact that any one of us could “cut and paste“ page after page of incorrect predictions Pasty posted in the past)

The other of you jumps on here regurgitating the same old “it’s the Trinity League’s worst team”, “Nor Cal teams would be lucky to win a game if they were in the Trinity league”, ”These kids should be ashamed to consider themselves State Champs if they win”.

Dude, we get it. Trinity League teams are great. All other football in California sucks and nobody except Trinity teams (and maybe Centennial), should ever consider themselves State Champs.
I know, maybe we can all just sit around a campfire and you can tell us stories of how great the football in the Trinity League is??

At the end of the day, I can’t believe some of us jumped on this thread thinking there could be actual football conversation without the same ole BS comments.

Pasty, give it a rest. Enjoy the ride. I can’t believe you are actually more intolerable as a sore winner than all your years of changing screen names as a poor loser.

SMH
This sums it up well. Don't feed the birds and then get mad when they shit on you
 
According to CIF 2021-22 records, MD had four JV football eligible transfers this past season, with zero on varsity. Folsom had four football transfers. No big deal for either team.
 
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I posted proof above.

YOU stated there was zero transfers, not me. The burden of proof is on you, or else you are obviously lying as everyone knows on here.

You are a SoCal football fan on a NorCal football site. You have an agenda.

I am winning.
Not sure if you are aware but one of the links you posted was from 2019. Just saying.
 
Let's open up the pregame and game thread right here for this HUGE game coming up!

A few fun facts about this match up:

1. The teams have met twice before. Both times in Southern California
2. Folsom won both match ups
3. Both teams are coming into the game playing very well
4. Cathedral's defense is biggest question mark
5. Can Folsom stop Cathedral's high scoring offense
6. DLS laid waste to Cathedral 49-21

CalPreps predicts a 35-31 Cathedral win.
CalPreps Rnaking:
Cathedral- #5
Folsom- #17

We are so lucky to get such a great match up in the 1AA title game this year. I think competitive equity wise, this is a treat for all of us.

Open it up to thoughts!
I’m trying to understand. This is a far cry from calling it the “butt bowl”. Interesting.
 
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Ask and you shall receive. I will post the articles and exact quote for you to dispute. :)

"The recent CIF rule lets students play immediately when transferring schools if they are able to move their residence. This includes staying with a host family for the school year or football season before transferring back to their original schools second semester. Roggin said Mater Dei and Bosco have let that happen.

Here is the article from the two players attending MD and returning to Rancho Cucamonga after football season: https://www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/la-sp-mater-dei-transfers-20190207-story.html
"Here’s the latest example of things to consider: running back Sean Dollars and defensive back Jeremiah Criddell, two seniors who transferred to Santa Ana Mater Dei from Rancho Cucamonga last spring in time for spring football practice, are back at Rancho Cucamonga. They helped the Monarchs win the Division 1 championship before returning."

Now the best- Transfers! 2018

"Within the highly competitive Trinity League, Mater Dei is No. 1 with 71 transfers listed and, according to Sondheimer, there are more because several football players who arrived this spring are not yet listed on the Southern Section website. Schools may wait until the next school year to send in paperwork to confirm eligibility for fall athletes.

Also contributing to the high number of transfers within the prestigious league are Orange Lutheran with 63, followed by Santa Margarita Catholic at 51, San Juan Capistrano’s JSerra Catholic at 49, Bellflower’s St. John Bosco at 47 and Anaheim’s Servite at 26."

***To get ahead of the next line of garbage you will spill, there is NO difference in transfer rules from NorCal to SoCal. However, NorCal schools simply don't engage in this foolishness. 71 transfers in one year is a disgrace to high school sports.

The difference in rules is between public and private. The loophole for transfers is private schools can simply prove a "valid change of address." This can be the apartment next door. As long as they have simply changed an address, they can go anywhere they please. Public school transfers need a valid change of address WITHIN THAT SCHOOL BOUNDARY. Very different. There is open enrollment, but that is also tied to the enrollment capacity at that school and many other factors and qualifications set out by districts. It is very hard.

Since I've never seen you post a valid link and only troll, I thought I'd school you on some very basic, public information. It is all there for you. It isn't disputable.

Hope you enjoyed the win on Friday! :)
It clearly says a “recent CIF rule” what’s hard to grasp here? CIF over sees the entire state, again what rule does SoCal benefit from that Norcal doesn’t? Please name it.
 
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My prediction is 52-21 CC. I’m hoping it’s the opposite but let’s face it Folsom is not very good. They are not playing any better then the first time they played DLS. For the first time in the 40+ years I’ve been around Bay Area HSFB DLS was worse in game 13 then they were in game one. And with all the penalties and turnovers and dropped intersections etc…. DLS still only lost by a couple inches. Honestly has any poster on here ever see such an absolute implosion by a DLS team at this point in the season? This is the first full year we have seen DLS new DC and his all new staff. I really do hope I’m wrong but unfortunately I’ve never been more sure that I’m right.
 
Not a chance 52-21. CC does not have a great defense. I think Folsom wins by 2 scores. I look forward to watching all the games in person.
 
You two argue like 6 year olds.

One of you started this ‘thread‘ and then immediately starts “cutting and pasting” previous incorrect predictions or negative posts from anyone who dares think Folsom might lose, or may have said something negative about Folsom in the past. (Despite the fact that any one of us could “cut and paste“ page after page of incorrect predictions Pasty posted in the past)

The other of you jumps on here regurgitating the same old “it’s the Trinity League’s worst team”, “Nor Cal teams would be lucky to win a game if they were in the Trinity league”, ”These kids should be ashamed to consider themselves State Champs if they win”.

Dude, we get it. Trinity League teams are great. All other football in California sucks and nobody except Trinity teams (and maybe Centennial), should ever consider themselves State Champs.
I know, maybe we can all just sit around a campfire and you can tell us stories of how great the football in the Trinity League is??

At the end of the day, I can’t believe some of us jumped on this thread thinking there could be actual football conversation without the same ole BS comments.

Pasty, give it a rest. Enjoy the ride. I can’t believe you are actually more intolerable as a sore winner than all your years of changing screen names as a poor loser.

SMH
Poor baby did I strike a nerve? Your football inferiority complex get triggered here? My post had zero to do with Trinity superiority just pointing out fact or context here. It wouldn’t have mattered if CC was playing a sub-par ambassador league team to go to state bowl point it’s the same, it’s a watered down field here. In terms of Trinity being the only good teams never implied that sorry you took it that way, a quick glance at say the top 25 in state right now 6 are from Norcal, 19 from SoCal, 9 of those SoCal are public. Those numbers not only point to there are good teams outside the Trinity (1 Trinity team not even on list) but privates don’t have this huge advantage. Now do I think Folsom beats CC? I think they probably do but understand CC if fairly far down the food chain in SoCal football and that is the point. The whole state bowl game and playoff system needs to be revamped. Stop allowing teams who finish at the bottom of their own leagues to even participate in playoffs and especially state it is ridiculous. Do we need so many state champ games? No
 
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