i saw in the D5 bracket that Lassen has a bye into the second round. Does anyone know the situation? Apologies if this has been mentioned on anyone thread.
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Cloverdale lost in the quarterfinals (to Clear Lake) - I would have assumed that Cloverdale (ranked #348) would/should not be considered over San Leandro (#189), Mt. Eden (#201) or American (#159).I just noticed the same thing while checking out the SF AAA team results. The only thing I could find was from the Sac Bee (or other paper) was that Cloverdale wasn't planning to apply for an at large berth for the NorCals (is that even an option???) but apparently, they were selected anyway.
Clay,So NCS does it this way, which is completely counter to competitive equity: If a team from Division V is bumped up, then the highest-seeded D-V quarterfinal loser is nominated in its place (so that there are four NCS teams in D-V). Urban, the D-V NCS champion, went to D-III, thus creating the opening for Cloverdale.
If competitive equity is the goal, then the best quarterfinal losers, regardless of division, should be submitted to CIF for at-large consideration. I hope to ask this question of the powers-that-be soon ...
So the "NCS" put Logan on their list and NOT American (rated 171 and won 18 games) or San Leandro (rated 197 and won 22 games)? The NCS may have put Cloverdale on their list (not knowing that the CIF committee would move up Urban) and NOT Mt. Eden (rated 204 and won 19 games)? The NCS may not have put all those D1s on their list and then "let" the CIF put teams from the Central Section (Yosemite and Clovis) in the NorCals brackets?Right now, the CIF committee can only use teams nominated by the sections, so if NCS did not put San Leandro (which beat James Logan, was rated 197 and won 22 games) on its list, and instead put Cloverdale (rated 339 and won 20 games against lesser competition), there's nothing CIF can do -- at this point.
The rationale for pulling up Cloverdale to replace Urban remains unclear to me, especially if Cloverdale was not notified it was on the list of potential teams -- which again comes back to Cloverdale backing out. If they knew their name had been submitted, and didn't object, then by default they agreed to go wherever they were sent.
If NCS didn't tell them, then their refusal to drive to Lassen has at least some justification.
Either way, it's an embarrassment.
Not the coach, AD or school administrator. So basically someone from this message board could have called the NCS office. AND then the CIF placed them without them submitting any paperwork/application - but they were on the NCS list so let's put them into the brackets. It sounds like an error on the part of the NCS AND the CIF committees.Story out of Cloverdale HS
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Not the coach, AD or school administrator. So basically someone from this message board could have called the NCS office. AND then the CIF placed them without them submitting any paperwork/application - but they were on the NCS list so let's put them into the brackets. It sounds like an error on the part of the NCS AND the CIF committees.
Meanwhile I'd bet that there were teams that DID submit their names to NCS, DID submit paperwork to CIF and DID keep practicing that were NOT chosen to play in NorCals. I am just confused by the process. The process put undue stress on the Cloverdale program and left other NCS teams (San Leandro, Mt. Eden, American, Ukiah) that were as deserving (under the existing format) out of the process.Cloverdale coach brings up good points. His team would have had to wait a week to see if they would even play again since they were knocked out early.
Do they keep practicing? what if they weren't selected?
There are kinks in this system
Not the coach, AD or school administrator. So basically someone from this message board could have called the NCS office.
Those CCS slots should have been used for CCS team first, then other NorCal teams second --- NOT Central teams (Yosemite and Clovis). Travesty all around. I do feel bad for the CCS teams that should have their moment in time.Let's not even get into how CCS decided to allow three of its available CIF slots to go to other sections. The current system needs some serious tweaking, if not a major overhaul.
Those CCS slots should have been used for CCS team first, then other NorCal teams second --- NOT Central teams (Yosemite and Clovis). Travesty all around. I do feel bad for the CCS teams that should have their moment in time.
Those CCS slots should have been used for CCS team first, then other NorCal teams second --- NOT Central teams (Yosemite and Clovis). Travesty all around. I do feel bad for the CCS teams that should have their moment in time.
Aragon, Sequoia and Carlmont all had 20 wins or more. Aragon made it to the D2 final and Sequoia and Carlmont made it to the D1 semi finals. In any other section all three teams would be in the Nor Cals. But CCS with its ridiculous rules hosed all three teams. CCS mew a year ago that the selection process would be different, yet they chose not to change the process. Giving away bids and not filling all your bids ended up hurting three deserving public schools. Of the 17 bids that were awarded 13 of them went to private schools and 4 to public schools. In D1 which is all publics all two bids were awarded and CCS could have awarded two more acording to their by laws. Here was a chance to send two more publics and they decided not to. They sent 2 in D1, 4 in D2, 4 in D3, 3 in D4, and 4 in D5. Why only 2 in D1? No one really knows!!! Shame on CCS!!!