Serra: Rich get richer

[colhenrylives]

Serra is the happy recipient of a big-time soph transfer QB, the 6-3 Maealiuaki Smith from Inderkum. He already has multiple DI offers, including one from Louisville. The Padres' soph group is shaping up as one of the very best in the varsity program's 75-year history (Serra's first varsity appeared in 1946). The transfer has been made known on Twitter and MaxPreps over the last several days. The rich just keep getting richer.

 

[LecheDeMiPalo]

Man, I really do hope that better bylaws are implemented at some point to stop the funneling of these kids to the privates who, let’s be honest, are governed by the Archdiocese, not the CIF.

Football is dying up and down the Peninsula and here Serra is pulling a last second 4 star QB from the deepest of depths of their asses. I don’t know what that something is but football is dying off in the area largely because of these private schools coming in and cleaning up in recruiting.

 

[FBIQ]

Man, I really do hope that better bylaws are implemented at some point to stop the funneling of these kids to the privates who, let’s be honest, are governed by the Archdiocese, not the CIF.

Football is dying up and down the Peninsula and here Serra is pulling a last second 4 star QB from the deepest of depths of their asses. I don’t know what that something is but football is dying off in the area largely because of these private schools coming in and cleaning up in recruiting.

I don't think football is dying because of the private schools. I think the opposite is happening, the private schools are actually keeping football alive on the peninsula and all over the bay area. I say this based on how the public schools use their budget/money; they don't seem interested in football anymore. God forbid they actually allocate funds for weight room upgrades, helmets, jerseys, or video equipment.

Without the private schools like De La Salle, St. John Bosco, Mater Dei, and even Serra. High School Football in California would be dead?

 

[colhenrylives]

As noted in another thread, issues helping to cause an overall decline in the quality (and quantity) of CCS public school football programs include:

Demographic changes that have reduced the number of teens who play football.
A lack of qualified coaching staffs which are full-time on campuses.
Parental concerns about injuries, specifically trauma to the head.
Administrative concerns about liability, costs and the violent nature of the sport.
Decisions by top young players to attend local private/parochial schools.

The private/parochials, which embrace football (and all athletics) as a marketing/enrollment tool, benefit from all of the above factors. They understand their opportunity. Serra, since the arrival of Coach Walsh in 2001, has made no bones about its desire to utilize football as one of its primary public relations vehicles. The results are clear to one and all. So, really, you can see a vicious circle repeating itself daily. Too many public programs continue to wither on the vine while the committed private/parochials, which do not have geographic restrictions on enrollment, reap a harvest in response. As the pool of available strong talent shrinks, the situation becomes more pronounced and imbalanced. It seems highly unlikely that it's going to change in any significant way.

One final sorry note regarding the CCS publics, specifically the Peninsula Athletic League: The three programs with the longest football winning streaks in San Mateo County history (Sequoia, 33 in the late 1950s and early 1960s, and South San Francisco and San Mateo, both 29 in the 1960s and 1980s respectively) are now confined to the league's lowest (worst) division, the Lake.

 

[FBAddict]

I don't think football is dying because of the private schools. I think the opposite is happening, the private schools are actually keeping football alive on the peninsula and all over the bay area. I say this based on how the public schools use their budget/money; they don't seem interested in football anymore. God forbid they actually allocate funds for weight room upgrades, helmets, jerseys, or video equipment.

Without the private schools like De La Salle, St. John Bosco, Mater Dei, and even Serra. High School Football in California would be dead?

You pretty much summed up my response to LecheDeMiPalo's quibble. There are always multiples of criticism of success.

 

[larry legend33]

You pretty much summed up my response to LecheDeMiPalo's quibble. There are always multiples of criticism of success.

Perfect response! Look what Serra did for football last year across the state by starting the “movement”

 

[WWHS44]

I think the Smith kid would still be at Inderkum if the coach didnt move on to Oakridge...IMHO that had more to do with it than recruiting....

 

[LecheDeMiPalo]

You absolutely bring up some real points. Yes, the private schools will pony up money for shit the publics will piss and moan about. Uniforms, updated weightroom, recruiting visits to major universities (non-official), tutors, qualified strength coaches and so on.

But you cannot sit here and tell me these kids simply would not play football if they had no choice but to attend a public. I’m sorry, but I simply cannot see Hassan Mahasin quitting football all together because he was relegated to the same Terra Nova weight room his father and uncles used to propel themselves.

Combine that with the fact that when the CIF stepped in and did something about a Mater Dei transfer some 10-12 years ago that ended up in the courtroom with the Archdiocese of Orange County flexing its Roman Catholic Church money at the CIF to the point where they couldn’t keep up and it’s clear to see how these pipelines were established.

Are the private schools governed by the CIF? Yes. But many of them are backed by Catholic Church. Someone please tell me when was the last time any private school received a postseason ban like the one Narbonne is serving due to a transfer. The CIF looks the other way because of they know they do not have the funds to keep up with the Catholics Church in court.

 

[ararar]

Narbonne is serving its ban because they actively changed players grades to accommodate the football team not because of transfers

 

[WCAL75]

Man, I really do hope that better bylaws are implemented at some point to stop the funneling of these kids to the privates who, let’s be honest, are governed by the Archdiocese, not the CIF.

Football is dying up and down the Peninsula and here Serra is pulling a last second 4 star QB from the deepest of depths of their asses. I don’t know what that something is but football is dying off in the area largely because of these private schools coming in and cleaning up in recruiting.

If the transfer is athletically motivated then the kid will have to sit the first 5 games.

 

[WCAL75]

BTW, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's team

 

[colhenrylives]

To be clear, I have no knowledge of how or why this young man, Smith, has transferred to Serra. But Inderkum is more than 100 miles from West 20th Avenue in San Mateo so the kid is not commuting. He's living somewhere nearby. So the transfer would seem to be above board, barring some startling revelation of illegal inducement. But there is no doubt that Serra's football program has become a regional entity; it's not a neighborhood program like those at nearby Hillsdale or Aragon. Walsh has created a papal powerhouse at a place that languished for a full generation in relative gridiron mediocrity (over 20 percent of Serra's enrollment plays football now). Even the stellar presence of Tom Brady, arguably the greatest QB in American history, couldn't elevate the Padres to competitive excellence in the 1990s. But, yes, comparing the publics with the private/parochials is the apples/oranges argument. They are two different animals. So major kudos have to be offered to publics like Los Gatos, Palo Alto, Menlo-Atherton, Aptos, Wilcox, Salinas, Burlingame, Half Moon Bay and a couple of others which have been able to maintain a fairly solid degree of CCS football consistency in the face of extreme private/parochial competition (Palma, The King's Academy, Sacred Heart Prep and the entire WCAL in particular).

 

[colhenrylives]

One more related item: Patrick Walsh has become a statewide media icon in the wake of his work to open up prep sports this past spring. State Coach of the Year. A constant presence (attractive, articulate, engaging, friendly, sincere) on radio and TV. Non-stop interviews in major newspapers. A huge internet presence. Founder/owner of a massive youth flag football enterprise. Walsh, a parent of boys himself, has become a one-man media machine and a magnet for young talent on his San Mateo campus. He is almost bigger than the school itself. Almost. Twenty years after his hiring, he has built something few saw coming in the early fall of 2001.

 

[WCAL75]

I will always respect everything that coach Walsh did in the media for HS football.

 

[dcpanda]

You absolutely bring up some real points. Yes, the private schools will pony up money for shit the publics will piss and moan about. Uniforms, updated weightroom, recruiting visits to major universities (non-official), tutors, qualified strength coaches and so on.

But you cannot sit here and tell me these kids simply would not play football if they had no choice but to attend a public. I’m sorry, but I simply cannot see Hassan Mahasin quitting football all together because he was relegated to the same Terra Nova weight room his father and uncles used to propel themselves.

Combine that with the fact that when the CIF stepped in and did something about a Mater Dei transfer some 10-12 years ago that ended up in the courtroom with the Archdiocese of Orange County flexing its Roman Catholic Church money at the CIF to the point where they couldn’t keep up and it’s clear to see how these pipelines were established.

Are the private schools governed by the CIF? Yes. But many of them are backed by Catholic Church. Someone please tell me when was the last time any private school received a postseason ban like the one Narbonne is serving due to a transfer. The CIF looks the other way because of they know they do not have the funds to keep up with the Catholics Church in court.

The SF archdiocese doesn’t do much to support its schools financially. The funding at Catholic schools owned by the Archdiocese (they own four) has more to do with enrollment and donations than anything else. It’s possible other diocese operate differently.

 

[concrete17]

The SF archdiocese doesn’t do much to support its schools financially. The funding at Catholic schools owned by the Archdiocese (they own four) has more to do with enrollment and donations than anything else. It’s possible other diocese operate differently.

Have a hard time believing the Catholic Church and it's various diocese are funding court battles like The Mater Dei court case against the CIF when they can't (or won't) fund the continued operation of their schools throughout California.
From personal experience (Mrs Crete, Catholic School teacher) it comes down to swim or sink, carry your own weight attitude towards financial support as more and more schools are shuttered.

 

[colhenrylives]

The finances of the Catholic Church are now devoted, in significant measure, to fending off and settling molestation cases dating back decades. More than one diocese nationwide has gone bankrupt as a result. High school athletic programs rank just below the deep definition of mortal sin and impure thoughts on a scale of relative importance.

 

[ararar]

MD has very wealthy alumni who give generously and travel to OOS games.Believe it or not the $18,100 tuition gets paid by a multiple of families

 

[FBIQ]

You absolutely bring up some real points. Yes, the private schools will pony up money for shit the publics will piss and moan about. Uniforms, updated weightroom, recruiting visits to major universities (non-official), tutors, qualified strength coaches and so on.

But you cannot sit here and tell me these kids simply would not play football if they had no choice but to attend a public. I’m sorry, but I simply cannot see Hassan Mahasin quitting football all together because he was relegated to the same Terra Nova weight room his father and uncles used to propel themselves.

Combine that with the fact that when the CIF stepped in and did something about a Mater Dei transfer some 10-12 years ago that ended up in the courtroom with the Archdiocese of Orange County flexing its Roman Catholic Church money at the CIF to the point where they couldn’t keep up and it’s clear to see how these pipelines were established.

Are the private schools governed by the CIF? Yes. But many of them are backed by Catholic Church. Someone please tell me when was the last time any private school received a postseason ban like the one Narbonne is serving due to a transfer. The CIF looks the other way because of they know they do not have the funds to keep up with the Catholics Church in court.

This is my point exactly, the public schools won't fight for their students like this because in their minds "it's only football". Whereas the privates just value the sport more.

High School Football is more than just deciding to play and having a team, to be a top team there has to be a full commitment - including financially - from all involved; Parents/Students/Administration/Community.

 

[concrete17]

High School Football is more than just deciding to play and having a team, to be a top team there has to be a full commitment - including financially - from all involved; Parents/Students/Administration/Community

^^^^Agree wholeheartedly!! ^^^^^The 4 corners for a firm foundation of a successful Prep Sports Program. ALL 4 factors have TO WANT & have TO WORK for it. To quote an oft used but valid phrase: "Build It and They will Come"

I disagree that many of the Publics won't fight for their students or their sports programs. The Publics are more beholden directly to their community in which they are located. The Publics sit on a much bigger constituent pie to whom they must answer and share available funding than do the Privates. The bigger the pie, the more people they must share with & serve, the thinner the resources to be spread around.
Pubilcs' success in the athletic arenas is less likely to guarantee increased financial funding and/or income than might be the case with Privates. Increased funding can contribute to better athletic facilities, more secure coaching contracts, more stable coacing staff, better school outreach thru summer school sports camps , yada, yada, yada. Perhaps.........
"Fund it, Build it and They will Come (?)"

 

[Marcskit]

^^^^Agree wholeheartedly!! ^^^^^The 4 corners for a firm foundation of a successful Prep Sports Program. ALL 4 factors have TO WANT & have TO WORK for it. To quote an oft used but valid phrase: "Build It and They will Come"

I disagree that many of the Publics won't fight for their students or their sports programs. The Publics are more beholden directly to their community in which they are located. The Publics sit on a much bigger constituent pie to whom they must answer and share available funding than do the Privates. The bigger the pie, the more people they must share with & serve, the thinner the resources to be spread around.
Pubilcs' success in the athletic arenas is less likely to guarantee increased financial funding and/or income than might be the case with Privates. Increased funding can contribute to better athletic facilities, more secure coaching contracts, more stable coacing staff, better school outreach thru summer school sports camps , yada, yada, yada. Perhaps.........
"Fund it, Build it and They will Come (?)"

Lets not forget, Serra doesn't have to fund girls sports, and all the rest that goes into serving females, and all the rest it includes for women. Just saying.

Here's wishing you great football.

 

[Peanuts Lowrey]

Man, I really do hope that better bylaws are implemented at some point to stop the funneling of these kids to the privates who, let’s be honest, are governed by the Archdiocese, not the CIF.

Football is dying up and down the Peninsula and here Serra is pulling a last second 4 star QB from the deepest of depths of their asses. I don’t know what that something is but football is dying off in the area largely because of these private schools coming in and cleaning up in recruiting.

The player in question has attended or been tied to numerous schools in his short career, including Folsom (a public school).

 

[FBIQ]

Has anyone seen the kid play or did he have to sit out of games due to transfer rules?

 

[Peanuts Lowrey]

Has anyone seen the kid play or did he have to sit out of games due to transfer rules?

You absolutely bring up some real points. Yes, the private schools will pony up money for shit the publics will piss and moan about. Uniforms, updated weightroom, recruiting visits to major universities (non-official), tutors, qualified strength coaches and so on.

But you cannot sit here and tell me these kids simply would not play football if they had no choice but to attend a public. I’m sorry, but I simply cannot see Hassan Mahasin quitting football all together because he was relegated to the same Terra Nova weight room his father and uncles used to propel themselves.

Combine that with the fact that when the CIF stepped in and did something about a Mater Dei transfer some 10-12 years ago that ended up in the courtroom with the Archdiocese of Orange County flexing its Roman Catholic Church money at the CIF to the point where they couldn’t keep up and it’s clear to see how these pipelines were established.

Are the private schools governed by the CIF? Yes. But many of them are backed by Catholic Church. Someone please tell me when was the last time any private school received a postseason ban like the one Narbonne is serving due to a transfer. The CIF looks the other way because of they know they do not have the funds to keep up with the Catholics Church in court.

 

[Peanuts Lowrey]

Tired of this.

Serra is the happy recipient of a big-time soph transfer QB, the 6-3 Maealiuaki Smith from Inderkum. He already has multiple DI offers, including one from Louisville. The Padres' soph group is shaping up as one of the very best in the varsity program's 75-year history (Serra's first varsity appeared in 1946). The transfer has been made known on Twitter and MaxPreps over the last several days. The rich just keep getting richer.

 

[Peanuts Lowrey]

Crestfallen colhenry didn't get a "Papal" in there. I do love those.

 

[concrete17]

Crestfallen colhenry didn't get a "Papal" in there. I do love those.

........since the Colonel uses it in his discussions of the Privates, shouldn't it be "PayPal".........?

 

[colhenrylives]

Papal.....there, satisfied?.....

 

[concrete17]

Papal.....there, satisfied?.....

You've been typecasted, like Porky Pig:
"Babbada, babbada, That's All Folks!" Or Clint: "Make my day, Punk"

 

[FBIQ]

Tired of this.

Didn't Pittsburgh have a bunch of transfers last year?

 

[FBAddict]

From another post about the PAL super-league getting poorer and obviously not at the hands of the HSFB 1%ers. Why is this historically strong athletic school suffering from low FB numbers? Talent moves to success but where is the average interest level of average students?

 

[Peanuts Lowrey]

Papal.....there, satisfied?.....

You go, Colonel

 

[FBAddict]

Didn't Pittsburgh have a bunch of transfers last year?

Which Pittsburgh school? Maybe you meant Pittsburg...

 

[FBIQ]

Which Pittsburgh school? Maybe you meant Pittsburg...

Yes, that one.

 

[FBIQ]

How is the kid doing?

 

[FBIQ]

How is the kid doing?

His squad is undefeated

 

[colhenrylives]

He is finally eligible to play. He has seen some backup action during mop-up time in the second half of WCAL games. He is a rather imposing figure with a nice arm. But he hasn't been challenged much at all. Still, he reported receiving an offer from Arizona last week. Not entirely sure if the offer is for a scholarship or for preferred walk-on status. These reports can be a bit vague as to specifics.

 

[FBIQ]

He is finally eligible to play. He has seen some backup action during mop-up time in the second half of WCAL games. He is a rather imposing figure with a nice arm. But he hasn't been challenged much at all. Still, he reported receiving an offer from Arizona last week. Not entirely sure if the offer is for a scholarship or for preferred walk-on status. These reports can be a bit vague as to specifics.

I believe he started the Mitty game. Isn't he #16?

He's fast!

 

[pastyfastquick3]

He is finally eligible to play. He has seen some backup action during mop-up time in the second half of WCAL games. He is a rather imposing figure with a nice arm. But he hasn't been challenged much at all. Still, he reported receiving an offer from Arizona last week. Not entirely sure if the offer is for a scholarship or for preferred walk-on status. These reports can be a bit vague as to specifics.

Crazy to see in this era of HSFB, kids getting major college offers who don't even start at their own HS programs. Not knocking the kid, kudos to him, but still crazy!

 

[colhenrylives]

I believe he started the Mitty game. Isn't he #16?

He's fast!

No. No.16 is Adkins. No.6 is Smith.