With week 1 of league play in the books the SFL is back with another awesome set of games! Thoughts? Predictions?
Folsom @ Whitney
Rocklin @ Del Oro
Oak Ridge @ Granite Bay
Folsom @ Whitney
Rocklin @ Del Oro
Oak Ridge @ Granite Bay
SFL week 2 of league
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I’ll go with Folsom, Del Oro and Oak Ridge. But I think those last two are one possession games.
I’m going with Folsom, OR, and Rocklin.
Folsom game will be a massacre. Only question will be how soon will the clock be running. GB vs. OR will be fun considering that the loser will be 0-2 in league. I’m rolling with OR. I see major deficiencies in the GB pass game and they are a team that cannot play from behind. OR D front is physical and will hold their own against the run game. I am also leary of that GB pass defense. DO vs Rocklin is another great matchup. I am going with the upset. I think we all have lost a little faith in Rocklin. No doubt that the Turlock loss was bad and the Whitney game was close. But I still see a team that can run the ball and play great defense. Give a SFL team 2 weeks to prepare (Whitney) in a rivalry game and it’s going to be a good game. This matchup comes down to the Rocklin Defense containing that electric DO QB. Can they keep him in the pocket and take away the shot plays? Perhaps DO looking ahead to Folsom? It’s going to be another awesome week or SFL play!
Folsom game will be a massacre. Only question will be how soon will the clock be running. GB vs. OR will be fun considering that the loser will be 0-2 in league. I’m rolling with OR. I see major deficiencies in the GB pass game and they are a team that cannot play from behind. OR D front is physical and will hold their own against the run game. I am also leary of that GB pass defense. DO vs Rocklin is another great matchup. I am going with the upset. I think we all have lost a little faith in Rocklin. No doubt that the Turlock loss was bad and the Whitney game was close. But I still see a team that can run the ball and play great defense. Give a SFL team 2 weeks to prepare (Whitney) in a rivalry game and it’s going to be a good game. This matchup comes down to the Rocklin Defense containing that electric DO QB. Can they keep him in the pocket and take away the shot plays? Perhaps DO looking ahead to Folsom? It’s going to be another awesome week or SFL play!
I agree on Rocklin. I don't think many people have a good handle on what Rocklin is right now. Will have a much better idea after this week.
Why respond? You got Folsom by damn near 50, and this dude doesn’t stop
Very possible all SFL teams make playoffs, league is strong this year.
Steve Montoya | MaxPreps.com
Early playoff picture.
Division I Possible Bracket
**= have not met four-game win threshold
AE= anticipated Auto Entry
AL= anticipated At-large Entry
This is sorted by current ranking
Folsom, AE — 2750
St. Mary's, AE — 780 (Anticipated to win a D1 league or would be D2)
Monterey Trail, AE — 2398
Oak Ridge, AL — 2652
Jesuit, AE — 1940 (Anticipated to win a D1 league or would be D2)
** Turlock, AL — 2608
** Central Catholic, AL — 378
Sheldon, AL — 2553
** Lincoln (S), AL — 2970
Edison, AE — 2901
Stagg, AL — 2435
Johnson, AL — 2510
Teams that could be in if they got to 4 wins
Franklin (EG) — 2697
Gregori — 2280
Davis (S) — 2849
River City — 2358
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Division II Possible Bracket
Manteca, AE — 1880
Del Oro, AL — 1656
Granite Bay, AL — 2037
Downey, AE — 2165
Rocklin, AL — 2186
Tracy, AL — 1802
Lodi, AL — 2149
** Elk Grove, AL — 1838
** Vacaville, AL — 2037
** Inderkum, AE — 2347 (In D1 column but moved down others have to come up)
Woodcreek, AL — 2107
** Enochs, AL — 2394 (In D1 column but moved down others have to come up)
Teams that could be in if they got to 4 wins
** Whitney, AL — 2042
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Here are the MP Rankings;
SJS Rankings top 10
1 Folsom 5-1
2 Manteca 5-0
3 St. Mary's (Stockton) 6-0
4 Del Oro (Loomis) 6-0
5 Monterey Trail (Elk Grove) 5-2
6 Oak Ridge (El Dorado Hills) 5-1
7 Granite Bay 5-1
8 Downey (Modesto) 6-0
9 Jesuit (Carmichael) 5-1
10 Rocklin 5-1
Steve Montoya | MaxPreps.com
Early playoff picture.
Division I Possible Bracket
**= have not met four-game win threshold
AE= anticipated Auto Entry
AL= anticipated At-large Entry
This is sorted by current ranking
Folsom, AE — 2750
St. Mary's, AE — 780 (Anticipated to win a D1 league or would be D2)
Monterey Trail, AE — 2398
Oak Ridge, AL — 2652
Jesuit, AE — 1940 (Anticipated to win a D1 league or would be D2)
** Turlock, AL — 2608
** Central Catholic, AL — 378
Sheldon, AL — 2553
** Lincoln (S), AL — 2970
Edison, AE — 2901
Stagg, AL — 2435
Johnson, AL — 2510
Teams that could be in if they got to 4 wins
Franklin (EG) — 2697
Gregori — 2280
Davis (S) — 2849
River City — 2358
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Division II Possible Bracket
Manteca, AE — 1880
Del Oro, AL — 1656
Granite Bay, AL — 2037
Downey, AE — 2165
Rocklin, AL — 2186
Tracy, AL — 1802
Lodi, AL — 2149
** Elk Grove, AL — 1838
** Vacaville, AL — 2037
** Inderkum, AE — 2347 (In D1 column but moved down others have to come up)
Woodcreek, AL — 2107
** Enochs, AL — 2394 (In D1 column but moved down others have to come up)
Teams that could be in if they got to 4 wins
** Whitney, AL — 2042
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Here are the MP Rankings;
SJS Rankings top 10
1 Folsom 5-1
2 Manteca 5-0
3 St. Mary's (Stockton) 6-0
4 Del Oro (Loomis) 6-0
5 Monterey Trail (Elk Grove) 5-2
6 Oak Ridge (El Dorado Hills) 5-1
7 Granite Bay 5-1
8 Downey (Modesto) 6-0
9 Jesuit (Carmichael) 5-1
10 Rocklin 5-1
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Whitney has to win at least one more game to be eligible. I don’t see that happening.
Its Possible, not looking good but maybe they catch granite bay 🤔
There’s no longer a requirement for wins in league. But you have to win at least 4 games total to be eligible. Currently Whitney only has 3 wins so they have to win a league game, whereas GB & OR each already have 5 wins, so one of them could lose every SFL game & still make the playoffs.
I’d like to believe the Thunder could score 22 points in this game, but my confidence is low.
They only scored 7 points against 3-3 Turlock — who surrendered 48, 54, 59, and 35 their next 4 games.
They were shut out for the 1st 3 quarters against Glacier Peak.
And they only scored 10 points against Whitney last Friday.
Their offense really needs to get going if they are going to compete well in the SFL.
Well, I sure missed the change.
When did the 2 league win criteria change in favor of 4 overall wins?
I don’t like that change at all.
Against a Del Oro defense that hasn’t given up more than 13 points in a game except against Clayton Valley when DO was missing 1/2 of their starting secondary due to injury. CVC really picked on the backup corner & safety.
I’m not sure when it changed. It’s been a few years. Read the beginning of this article. It lays out how SJS playoff qualifications, divisions, & seedings are determined: https://www.maxpreps.com/m/news/jHR...hool-football-playoff-projections-—-oct-3.htm
TR, the more I think about it the more I’m not sure that DO doesn’t win this game with a little more cushion than I had originally thought. DO has been damn stingy on defense also this year giving up 10 pt/game. You have a rocklin team that struggles to score playing against a very good D.
I agree this offense is struggling and while I think the score is reasonable it included help from the defense +7. The biggest factor this season leading to the anemic offense output has been their inability to throw the ball. That and they are 100% committed to the run. I'm not sure if that is going to change and agree that could be there undoing in SFL play.
In fact that Whitney game probably should have ended on a Whitney pick six to the house but the wildcat defender dropped a sure house call.
It will be interesting to see what adjustments can even be made with the passing game and a struggling QB. I think some positive adjustments had been made with Joey getting the ball to intermediate routes and check downs, not just the 9 route. That said correct reads have to be made, and simplifying reads for the QB seem inevitable/mandatory at this point. The offense needs at least 2 tds a game to give the D a fighting chance to win more games.
Passing Stats
Maxpreps non official
Folsom 104/154 1544 yards %68
Oak Ridge 81/120 1347 yards %68
Whitney 92/141 1119 yards %65
Del Oro 52/77 883 yards %68
Rocklin 49/93 741 yards %52
Granite Bay 26/37 538 yard %70
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D2 will be heavily loaded with SFL teams and IMHO, I believe D2 playoffs will be deeper with more competitive teams/games. Whereas, IMHO, I foresee D1 loaded at the top and the bottom seeds eliminated in the first round without any competition.
I believe the teams are pretty much set for each division with possibly some adjustments with still a few games remaining, especially in league. Seedings also up in the air as the rankings will change with still much football remaining. However, I feel confident the top 4-5 teams in D1 and D2 will be the same, but anticipate some juggling of seedings 2-5. Top teams Folsom and Manteca will more than likely hold their spots, unless St. Mary’s miraculously leapfrogs Folsom with a miraculously “more sound” victory over DLS (even with a close win, despite being undefeated, the Rams SOS will not come close to that of Folsom’s). Likewise, hard to see Manteca losing to Oakdale and/or Central Catholic or any other team in VOL play. I really don’t think anyone foresees Folsom or Manteca losing the rest of the way. Best chance would possibly Del Oro vs Folsom and CC or Oakdale vs Manteca. But, miracles can and do happen. Still lots of football left.
I know I know Pasty, it’s not going to happen. 😂
I believe the teams are pretty much set for each division with possibly some adjustments with still a few games remaining, especially in league. Seedings also up in the air as the rankings will change with still much football remaining. However, I feel confident the top 4-5 teams in D1 and D2 will be the same, but anticipate some juggling of seedings 2-5. Top teams Folsom and Manteca will more than likely hold their spots, unless St. Mary’s miraculously leapfrogs Folsom with a miraculously “more sound” victory over DLS (even with a close win, despite being undefeated, the Rams SOS will not come close to that of Folsom’s). Likewise, hard to see Manteca losing to Oakdale and/or Central Catholic or any other team in VOL play. I really don’t think anyone foresees Folsom or Manteca losing the rest of the way. Best chance would possibly Del Oro vs Folsom and CC or Oakdale vs Manteca. But, miracles can and do happen. Still lots of football left.
I know I know Pasty, it’s not going to happen. 😂
Wishful thinking there eh @bulldogmgc
Just happy I finally got you off that @larry legend33 kool aid
Did Derek Houston play last week?
I didn’t attend any games last weekend, but was able to simultaneously stream the GB-DO and Folsom-OR games. The Rocklin-Whitney game had some type of technical issue and wasn’t streamed as intended. So I wasn’t able to see a single play.
I’m very likely to attend Rocklin-DO this Friday evening and am hoping to see #5 leading the Thunder defense.
He was cleared medically I understand but they wanted him to practice another week or so, for conditioning I suppose. 😉
Yes, my request has been submitted to the Make a Wish Foundation. Stay tuned. We are anticipating a response late Friday night. But, heard there is a group of more needy kids wishing for this team in San Mateo to lose. I heard that their request is ahead of mine. 😉Wishful thinking there eh @bulldogmgc
Just happy I finally got you off that @larry legend33 kool aid
In relation to Folsom, St. Mary's would probably have to beat De La Salle AND have Folsom lose in the SFL in order for the Rams to get to the #1 spot.
As far as seeding below that (#2 and #3), there will a discussion of the St. Mary's score vs De La Salle in relation to the Monterey Trail score vs De La Salle. Whomever comes out looking better in that comparison will (most likely) be seeded higher.
Obviously, many weird and unexpected things could happen along the way. St. Mary's, Folsom, and MT all have at least one game in which an opponent has enough athleticism to beat them if they were to turn the ball over six times.
As far as St. Mary's getting bumped down to #4 or #5? Well don't discount the Section just doing whatever they want with seedings. Being a Monterey Trail fan, I know that you can go 9-1 with a one point loss to a playoff-caliber team on an off-night and get bounced down to the #5 spot. Not that it matters much. You just play the opponent they put in front of you. All the fields are the same size, after all.
This is also my opinion based on the probable teams for D2. I like Manteca's chances in D2 but there will be a lot of parity.
Much will be learned after this Friday evening. As much as DLS is favored (note: Central Catholic was even more of an overwhelming favorite vs St. Mary’s-Stockton), much will depend on the Rams line play and it defense’s capacity to make stops vs the Spartan offense, especially finding ways to limit their ground game with Greer being their key weapon. IMO, stop or slow down Greer will be very difficult. And although DLS’s defense is not as strong as prior year’s Spartan squads, they have had 2 weeks to prepare and they will still be the toughest defense that the Rams offense will have faced so far, until the Rams get into the playoffs. I very much doubt this year’s Rams team loses to this year’s DLS’s team by more than 2TD’s. But, we will soon find out. Whether the outcome is still a #2 seed, the Rams will still be playing at home thru the playoffs until the championship, should they get that far. And if #3, 4, or 5, the Rams have no problem playing on the road. Just ask Central Catholic, which I’m sure are seeking a rematch after playing Serra quite tough. Heck, we might want to play a team like MT more so on the road vs versus facing MT @ home. Been there done that! Lol. Definitely parity at the top with the 2 SFL teams, MT, SMS, and Jesuit.
Yep, this year’s DLS team has way too much speed for the overrated Rams from Stockton to handle. Forgot about that! My bad. 😉
2009 re-visited?
The D2 bracket that year was the deepest, best I've ever seen in the SJS.
Grant Union, Rocklin, Del Oro, Folsom and St. Mary's. All good enough to win State.
Crazy thing is, you could easily argue each of those teams were among the best each school ever fielded. At least in the modern era. And they were all in the same bracket.
I hadn’t thought about the historical standing of those teams before, but I think you can definitely make that case for each team.
you could do a 30 for 30 type story on those two semi finals on back to back nights.
They only scored 7 against Turlock and first games can be tough but Turlock has a good team and it was not a fluke. Yes, Turlock gave up a lot of points but it was to Clovis West, Manteca and Central, currently 28, 29 and 68 in the state rankings (Maxpreps) and actually 33 points to Clayton Valley in a win. Turlock put up 41 against Central. Comparative scores and records are not always good indicators and while I did not see the Clayton Valley or Clovis West games Rocklin would have a very hard time against Manteca and Central. Clovis West is the highest ranked team in the Central section.
I wouldn't disagree Manteca could end up being the top D2, seed and Central is projected D1 with Turlock. Rocklin has but the lonely defense going for them right now.
