What do you guys think of Bells win at Folsom?

[nascar624]

NASCAR,

I really don't recall if it was you,but many of the Valley Ctew called for SFL Supiority at the end of league play. The majority of the opinions were power index of the points system. When it was clearly state by CalHi sports that the WCAL was the best in NorCal.

The argument was stated,"who could beat Flosom" and the data was insufficient. Well is seems like we have answered these two points of interest.

I get the abolity to be humble at eat your words. Actually admiring some from The valley staying the WCAL is better this year. They truly are being accurate. But since the claim was made and answered....I can only draw from the debate that occurred.

I am so excited that the SFL had found their place in NorCal

LOL. You definitely have the wrong guy, I purposely stay neutral and i am always objective in my post, for the precise reason we are discussing right now. Neither you nor I can say which league is superior to the other especially with the sample we have to work off of, which is Bellarmine, who happens to be section champ in very competitive close games with both Folsom and Del Oro, all that tells us is Bellarmine is basically even or slightly better than those schools. Based on those results, I would bet if Bellarmine played in the SFL it would be a very competitive league for them, just as much as it was for the WCAL, which is why I am sticking with both leagues appear to be even at this point.

Don't get me wrong I like Folsom and wanted to see them win, but thought it was silly how some Folsom homers were with regards to their team. I still laugh at all the talk that 2014 Folsom would have beat 2014 DLS. Not saying they couldn't, but their wasn't a shred of data to prove they could and it is pointless to argue because it can't be proven, just like which league is better when talking about WCAL and SFL.

For the record I take anything CalHi sports says lightly. It is simply another opinion and I would make this same statement if the they said the SFL was better. Sorry, but the Bellarmine win does not equal the SFL finding their place in NorCal. The SFL is and will be regarded as one of the best leagues in NorCal this year and in the past several years.

Oh and one more thing, the team I support doesn't even play anyone from the SFL. I just have alot of respect for both the SFL and WCAL as I would place those leagues as top dog in NorCal with the EBAL coming in behind maybe. Both the SFL and WCAL leagues have proven they are very competitive when it comes to league play and show outside of their league they are the cream of the crop for their respective section.

 

[NCSF]

Sorry NCSF,

I get his pride in Bearmone, but know the Belkarmine Community, Bella123 is a very small vocal minority. The Bells supporters I know and text'd are very excited to represent the WCALsndveru proud the have Mussio Statement more that just attend school.

As far as your thoughts on public vs. private...get over it. Parents make a scarfice. At +$17k, this is a choice of quality and with 3 teams in the CCS race and beyond truly demonstrates that.

Not buying the Band Wagon theory, since many of us WCAL supporters have stayed up front that they are behind their sister league programs,except during season

You don't interpret things very well. First of all, I was explaining why he had a problem with you living vicariously through another program just because you are in their league. Secondly, I was stating a fact that the best athletes choose to attend those schools. I don't blame them and would make the same decision. Finally, I didn't mention bandwagon at all. You should also take more pride in your spelling and typing.

 

[RiordanGael]

C'mon RiordanGael- We are brothers.

God bless.

I hope that now all this dominance of the WCAL....we pull together to support the north.

Correct we are all brothers of the north side.

We are one....we are NorCal

 

[thehookup55]

lol Riordangal just doesnt get it.

 

[slick58]

Saw most of the first half and can't believe that Folsom lost. Even though Bellarmine is a running team and play in a run dominant league they're still a speed team. Folsom had a decisive size advantage but their finesse approach played right into the Bells hands. They could have went foot to foot on offense and wedge blocked Bellarmine up and down the field but they didn't. I still have to watch the second half but just like the CVC game Folsoms style this season didn't match up well with an athletic and aggressive team.

 

[RiordanGael]

lol Riordangal just doesnt get it.

I am okay with not getting ignorance or the lack of humility.

I guarantee you, if Flosom won. I would be the first to eat crow....

I guess my bad of good sportsmanship is relative to a faith based program:school.

 

[NCSF]

I am okay with not getting ignorance or the lack of humility.

I guarantee you, if Flosom won. I would be the first to eat crow....

I guess my bad of good sportsmanship is relative to a faith based program:school.

So only faith based schools show good sportsmanship? As one who has faith, I'm embarrassed by your ignorance and arrogance. Honestly, shame on you! Do you spell Folsom wrong on purpose?

 

[robbt33]

Great game. Surprising to me that Folsom couldn't stop the Bells O-Line surge. That, plus the Folsom receivers dropping catchable balls all game. Bellarmine made fewer mistakes and got some great breaks at the end. They played better and earned the win.

Folsom overachieved all season long. After losing 21 of 22 starters from last year, for them to be even playing in the Norcal title game was extraordinary. And to lose to a private school, with the adjusted equivalent of 3000 kids, is nothing to be ashamed of. It would be great if the Bells represent Norcal well against Mission Viejo.

 

[RiordanGael]

Hey NCSF WTF,

So you really think someone on a message board can really be a shamed of another poster? If you do, please get a life of sometime of charity or service.

Ignorance of arrogance is often interpreted as just being right...especially to those who deny humility or right out being wrong.Common mistake of self righteous people who claim to know it all.

The Valley Posters, through they beat up on G61. Started this Debate and now that their poised points are discounted, they refuse to concede?? A conviction is not modified by the W/L column. Please say what you mean and mean what you say....

As for sad faith base schools being superior...Duh!!!

C'Mon Man

 

[nascar624]

Hey WTF,

So you really think someone on a message board can really be a shamed of another poster?

Ignorance of arrogance is often interpreted as just being right...especial to those who deny humility or right out being wrong.

The Valley Posters, through they beat up on G61. Started this Debate and nie that their poised points are discounted, the refuse to concede?? A conviction is not modified pure the W/L column. Please say what you mean and mean what you say....

As for sad faith base schools being superior...Duh!!!

I notice how you completely ignored my response to you at the top of this page, so I will reiterate that the Bells win proved nothing when comparing the WCAL and SFL leagues and same goes for if Folsom and Del Oro both beat the Bells. That still does not give proof as to which league was better.

My apologies if your posts are simply to try and get a rise out of people, than in that case, I played right into your devious plan lol

 

[RiordanGael]

I notice how you completely ignored my response to you at the top of this page, so I will reiterate that the Bells win proved nothing when comparing the WCAL and SFL leagues and same goes for if Folsom and Del Oro both beat the Bells. That still does not give proof as to which league was better.

My apologies if your posts are simply to try and get a rise out of people, than in that case, I played right into your devious plan lol

You did NASCAR,

But it does not make you worse for the wear.

At the end of the day, I am excited the Bells are representing a WCAL team in the same league as Riordan. Call it band wagoning or just simple enjoyment of a team I watch closely had such great success and actually make it to the State Game,

Do I truly care who is best btwn. WCAL or SFL...hell no!!

But reality of which league has history and the same configuration to be the best of the best this year? Truly tells others that changing does not always improve. If you see my other post, I state the same about a program that's wants to go Independant every time they become stellar dwellars.

I am excite for the improvement in the SFL, but it is not the tried and true WCAL. It was nice to see the Bellarmine program remind us all of that.

We Are One...We R the WCAL

 

[WCAL75]

To those of you who are STILL whining on this thread and some others. Sister Mary Elephant said it best:

 

[LMRJONES]

I had bought in to the Folsom hype UNTIL St. Mary's stuck 49 on them. After seeing that game I was not at all surprised by the Bellarmine win.

 

[Rmbr26]

"LMRJONES[/B], post: 82820, member: 504"] I had bought in to the Folsom hype UNTIL St. Mary's stuck 49 on them. After seeing that game I was not at all surprised by the Bellarmine win.

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OK 2 things here: first of all you picked up on a fact I noticed as a "red flag" as well, but secondly I don't think its quite fair unless you posted a prediction to say you were "not at all surprised by the Bellarmine win" [when it fact very few fans gave the Bell's a chance]. Saying it after the fact means you had little confidence or you would have posted - correct? Both myself & NorCalSportsFan predicted scores and a Bell's win & I don't remember seeing any other such scores/predictions that were close [simply tryin' to keep it real, so to speak].

So as I pointed out previously St. Mary's led Folsom by 2 TD's in first 1/2, but Folsom was able to wear them down in 2nd to finally win.
My point in pre-game post was that Los Gatos took St. Mary's down and Los Gatos was easily beaten by both Mitty & Valley Christian of the WCAL.
Now before I go any further, cross team competiton scores can be meaningless, but IF there is more than one common opponents they can suddenly become relevant. In this case it proved to be somewhat accurate and once again the Bell's win a close game - as this team has done numerous times over the last 2 seasons.

 

[NorCalSportsFan]

Question I have is how many teams do video and have a flat screen next to the field and have their staff and teams viewing it during the action? Do you think this also impacts half time adjustments? Does Folsom bring this equipment on the road as well?

 

[thehookup55]

Question I have is how many teams do video and have a flat screen next to the field and have their staff and teams viewing it during the action? Do you think this also impacts half time adjustments? Does Folsom bring this equipment on the road as well?

I questioned this too. It is pretty smart. Did they do this all season?

 

[CaliTrojan4Life]

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OK 2 things here: first of all you picked up on a fact I noticed as a "red flag" as well, but secondly I don't think its quite fair unless you posted a prediction to say you were "not at all surprised by the Bellarmine win" [when it fact very few fans gave the Bell's a chance]. Saying it after the fact means you had little confidence or you would have posted - correct? Both myself & NorCalSportsFan predicted scores and a Bell's win & I don't remember seeing any other such scores/predictions that were close [simply tryin' to keep it real, so to speak].

So as I pointed out previously St. Mary's led Folsom by 2 TD's in first 1/2, but Folsom was able to wear them down in 2nd to finally win.
My point in pre-game post was that Los Gatos took St. Mary's down and Los Gatos was easily beaten by both Mitty & Valley Christian of the WCAL.
Now before I go any further, cross team competiton scores can be meaningless, but IF there is more than one common opponents they can suddenly become relevant. In this case it proved to be somewhat accurate and once again the Bell's win a close game - as this team has done numerous times over the last 2 seasons.

Okay genius that game is over. How do the Bell's fair against Mission Viejo? Do they win or lose? And I'm pulling for the Bell's in this game.

 

[RiordanGael]

Question I have is how many teams do video and have a flat screen next to the field and have their staff and teams viewing it during the action? Do you think this also impacts half time adjustments? Does Folsom bring this equipment on the road as well?

Pretty Impressive,

If this is the new technology of HS preps sports...the transition to the next level will be a lot easier for future players to get it quickly

 

[RiordanGael]

That's funny, RiordanGayboy...You're constant criticism of another faith based school this past year proves otherwise.

What's also funny is that your team was in the gutter just 1 season ago...and you have the balls to humiliate another school????

Teddy,

Do you really want to bring up last year actions by a school and how it effected this year?

Right now, I am focusing on the success of the WCAL....I will catch you on the other side.

"how many weeks? Since you have heard "who's ur daddy" my good Serra Zealot?

 

[PAL95]

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OK 2 things here: first of all you picked up on a fact I noticed as a "red flag" as well, but secondly I don't think its quite fair unless you posted a prediction to say you were "not at all surprised by the Bellarmine win" [when it fact very few fans gave the Bell's a chance]. Saying it after the fact means you had little confidence or you would have posted - correct? Both myself & NorCalSportsFan predicted scores and a Bell's win & I don't remember seeing any other such scores/predictions that were close [simply tryin' to keep it real, so to speak].

So as I pointed out previously St. Mary's led Folsom by 2 TD's in first 1/2, but Folsom was able to wear them down in 2nd to finally win.
My point in pre-game post was that Los Gatos took St. Mary's down and Los Gatos was easily beaten by both Mitty & Valley Christian of the WCAL.
Now before I go any further, cross team competiton scores can be meaningless, but IF there is more than one common opponents they can suddenly become relevant. In this case it proved to be somewhat accurate and once again the Bell's win a close game - as this team has done numerous times over the last 2 seasons.

Don't forget about Jordan24 and me! We both picked the Bells to win. I picked them to win on a game winning field goal which was supposed to happen as the Bells were just gonna run the ball and burn up clock at the end for a field goal try but they wound up scoring a TD. Jordan24 also had the Bells winning by 7 which was spot on!

 

[nascar624]

You did NASCAR,

But it does not make you worse for the wear.

At the end of the day, I am excited the Bells are representing a WCAL team in the same league as Riordan. Call it band wagoning or just simple enjoyment of a team I watch closely had such great success and actually make it to the State Game,

Do I truly care who is best btwn. WCAL or SFL...hell no!!

But reality of which league has history and the same configuration to be the best of the best this year? Truly tells others that changing does not always improve. If you see my other post, I state the same about a program that's wants to go Independant every time they become stellar dwellars.

I am excite for the improvement in the SFL, but it is not the tried and true WCAL. It was nice to see the Bellarmine program remind us all of that.

We Are One...We R the WCAL

I agree the WCAL has a long history of success and the SFL is a more recent successful league, but you got to remember some of the top notch SFL schools were not around when the WCAL was flexing its muscle and showing it was the premier league in NorCal, I agree they still are a premier league, but with the rise of the SFL, I believe both leagues are very comparable, and it shows NorCal is now more than just the WCAL.

I realize there are other very strong leagues in NorCal, but I just don't think they have the depth of the WCAL and SFL

 

[PAL95]

Question I have is how many teams do video and have a flat screen next to the field and have their staff and teams viewing it during the action? Do you think this also impacts half time adjustments? Does Folsom bring this equipment on the road as well?

I know of teams that use I pads but have never seen the 50' flat screen out!

 

[RunningRon]

Having followed the Bells for many years from atop my perch at Monte Vista, can tell you they find a way to win - that is a fact - and it was no different Friday with the late interception - typical Bells!

 

[2wcats]

Question I have is how many teams do video and have a flat screen next to the field and have their staff and teams viewing it during the action? Do you think this also impacts half time adjustments? Does Folsom bring this equipment on the road as well?

CVC has been doing it since 2014 at least

 

[RiordanGael]

I agree the WCAL has a long history of success and the SFL is a more recent successful league, but you got to remember some of the top notch SFL schools were not around when the WCAL was flexing its muscle and showing it was the premier league in NorCal, I agree they still are a premier league, but with the rise of the SFL, I believe both leagues are very comparable, and it shows NorCal is now more than just the WCAL.

I realize there are other very strong leagues in NorCal, but I just don't think they have the depth of the WCAL and SFL

Great point, but I think it is 1 & 1a

Have a good holiday....

 

[1315]

CVC has been doing it since 2014 at least

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Time to man up Murphy; embrace enrollment to D1 (instead of ducking) and play The Machine.

 

[LMRJONES]

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OK 2 things here: first of all you picked up on a fact I noticed as a "red flag" as well, but secondly I don't think its quite fair unless you posted a prediction to say you were "not at all surprised by the Bellarmine win" [when it fact very few fans gave the Bell's a chance]. Saying it after the fact means you had little confidence or you would have posted - correct? Both myself & NorCalSportsFan predicted scores and a Bell's win & I don't remember seeing any other such scores/predictions that were close [simply tryin' to keep it real, so to speak].

So as I pointed out previously St. Mary's led Folsom by 2 TD's in first 1/2, but Folsom was able to wear them down in 2nd to finally win.
My point in pre-game post was that Los Gatos took St. Mary's down and Los Gatos was easily beaten by both Mitty & Valley Christian of the WCAL.
Now before I go any further, cross team competiton scores can be meaningless, but IF there is more than one common opponents they can suddenly become relevant. In this case it proved to be somewhat accurate and once again the Bell's win a close game - as this team has done numerous times over the last 2 seasons.

Where was my prediction? I was not interested enough to make one. The point of this thread was to give our thoughts on the game. The reason that I even noticed Folsom's Defense (to make this post) is because I saw St. Mary's victory over Napa in which they had to work very hard to move the ball. Turnovers were the difference in that game. St. Mary's had little trouble scoring against Folsom - that's all. No Dog in the fight here. Yes, the Bells were good.