Whitney wins Quarry Bowl
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Is Whitney a dark horse this year? I was at that OR game and they were right their and OR is 3-0 looking very good. Very impressed with Hunter Rodrigues. Whitney has a good shot of running the table until they meet Consumes Oaks for what is probably the league champ.
Rocklin, minus 8 players...it was very obvious that if they had their guys WHS wouldn't have won. Still minus those players Rocklin made a game that went to the very end...and had a shot.....New offense and a healthy Hunter has breathed life into a program that had lost it's head of steam...
I went to the Del Oro v. Bellarmine game on Friday night and haven't seen many of the Rocklin-Whitney highlights, but I heard that Hunter played quite well. You can only compete against the kids that are actually in uniform and Whitney's were better that night.
FWIW, I got the skinny on why the all the Rocklin kids were suspended. Quite silly, actually.
The 8 Rocklin players attended a party the Saturday after their Fri. night win over Del Campo. Apparently the Rocklin staff likes to spend their time scouring Facebook for incriminating pictures of students and discovered these kids doing some underage drinking. I don't condone underage drinking but we all know that this wasn't the first and only group to do such a thing. Unlike most every other school, Rocklin's staff seems to believe it's their duty to police the off-campus and off-school hours of all these kids. Sure wish they would perform their espionage consistently. A Rocklin student that committed suicide somewhat recently had been posting depressive and attention worthy messages on FB for quite some time beforehand, yet this same staff didn't seemed concerned about it. I guess kids at a neighborhood party is where the line is drawn.
FWIW, I got the skinny on why the all the Rocklin kids were suspended. Quite silly, actually.
The 8 Rocklin players attended a party the Saturday after their Fri. night win over Del Campo. Apparently the Rocklin staff likes to spend their time scouring Facebook for incriminating pictures of students and discovered these kids doing some underage drinking. I don't condone underage drinking but we all know that this wasn't the first and only group to do such a thing. Unlike most every other school, Rocklin's staff seems to believe it's their duty to police the off-campus and off-school hours of all these kids. Sure wish they would perform their espionage consistently. A Rocklin student that committed suicide somewhat recently had been posting depressive and attention worthy messages on FB for quite some time beforehand, yet this same staff didn't seemed concerned about it. I guess kids at a neighborhood party is where the line is drawn.
You're right. I made it all up. I guess your sources are closer to the program than the actual Rocklin players, parents and coaches I talked to.
Yup.
Apparently the Rocklin staff likes to spend their time scouring Facebook for incriminating pictures of students and discovered these kids doing some underage drinking.
nope
we all know that this wasn't the first and only group to do such a thing. Unlike most every other school, Rocklin's staff seems to believe it's their duty to police the off-campus and off-school hours of all these kids.
Not the first group and not the first time they have been thru this. WHS has had the same issues with players being caught stealing booze.....Yup they got suspended from the team.....
Sure wish they would perform their espionage consistently.
more to the story....you of all people should know better than this
A Rocklin student that committed suicide somewhat recently had been posting depressive and attention worthy messages on FB for quite some time beforehand, yet this same staff didn't seemed concerned about it.
Completely different sitiuation and this is crossing the line. This story I do know of first hand and you are showing very poor taste in going here...
I guess kids at a neighborhood party is where the line is drawn.
Just very surprised by your comments...I do know what happened here and my eyes aren't jaded...
Apparently the Rocklin staff likes to spend their time scouring Facebook for incriminating pictures of students and discovered these kids doing some underage drinking.
nope
we all know that this wasn't the first and only group to do such a thing. Unlike most every other school, Rocklin's staff seems to believe it's their duty to police the off-campus and off-school hours of all these kids.
Not the first group and not the first time they have been thru this. WHS has had the same issues with players being caught stealing booze.....Yup they got suspended from the team.....
Sure wish they would perform their espionage consistently.
more to the story....you of all people should know better than this
A Rocklin student that committed suicide somewhat recently had been posting depressive and attention worthy messages on FB for quite some time beforehand, yet this same staff didn't seemed concerned about it.
Completely different sitiuation and this is crossing the line. This story I do know of first hand and you are showing very poor taste in going here...
I guess kids at a neighborhood party is where the line is drawn.
Just very surprised by your comments...I do know what happened here and my eyes aren't jaded...
I merely repeated what I had been told and added my own personal comments to it. A person with just a bit of class would have simply explained where they felt the story was inaccurate and offered an alternative account rather than try to make things personal. Ironic that you then went to the 'crossing the line' card. Pot meet kettle. If you don't like my comparison or opinion on the matter, that's your problem.
I trust the people I spoke to on Friday night after the games. One of them has been coaching in the program for years and had a son on the team last season. Several of the others have kids currently attending the school and/or on the team. What I wrote was the consensus of the group. If your understanding of the situation and opinion is different than theirs, I don't what to tell you bro.
What I can tell you, unequivocally, is that your abrasive and incendiary approach to this isn't something I'm going to get caught up in. I have no problem engaging in a civil discussion with anyone and don't mind being corrected when indisputable facts are brought to the table. However, that's not at all the path you chose beginning with your very first reply. And that's where the discussion ends as far as I'm concerned.
I trust the people I spoke to on Friday night after the games. One of them has been coaching in the program for years and had a son on the team last season. Several of the others have kids currently attending the school and/or on the team. What I wrote was the consensus of the group. If your understanding of the situation and opinion is different than theirs, I don't what to tell you bro.
What I can tell you, unequivocally, is that your abrasive and incendiary approach to this isn't something I'm going to get caught up in. I have no problem engaging in a civil discussion with anyone and don't mind being corrected when indisputable facts are brought to the table. However, that's not at all the path you chose beginning with your very first reply. And that's where the discussion ends as far as I'm concerned.
wwhs44 is correct in that students sign a contract that say they will not partake in alcohol, drugs, and tobacco even if legal age. This is nothing new as it happens year in and out, kids are curious and they will experiment, sometimes they get caught sometimes they don't. The one thing I will say from personal experience and observing these situations is that more often than not there isn't patrolling of social media but rather the student athletes are reported by someone. It can be a peer, or concerned parent, a teacher gets wind of it, I have even heard of kids from different schools partying together then an anonymous complaint is made to one of the schools and that teams players are busted. Now I do not know the exact details of this situation but as I said from my experience, especially schools with rich tradition and pride in athletics do everything they can to keep their kids on the field/court, and its usually an informant situation.
TR,
I have always liked your commentary. Usually thoughtful and insightful with quite abit of info.
Very surprised you chose to attack the RHS staff in the decision to suspend players.
I don't think my answers are classless at all. I merely answered them truthfully and you don't like it. The way you have reported it is not quite accurate. To mention a deceased kid is over the line and to say the program didn't care extends it. how bout some compassion for anyone close to him about that issue. No it was NOT football related. You feel I am classless for trying to get the truth out?
I my friend have never degraded you or called you names but you seem to feel the need?
Far is spot on in his comment. I tried to mention the same issue as an example happening at WHS yet I think you bypassed that. this isn't the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. If there was no accountability, what would happen in the following weeks?
I have always liked your commentary. Usually thoughtful and insightful with quite abit of info.
Very surprised you chose to attack the RHS staff in the decision to suspend players.
I don't think my answers are classless at all. I merely answered them truthfully and you don't like it. The way you have reported it is not quite accurate. To mention a deceased kid is over the line and to say the program didn't care extends it. how bout some compassion for anyone close to him about that issue. No it was NOT football related. You feel I am classless for trying to get the truth out?
I my friend have never degraded you or called you names but you seem to feel the need?
Far is spot on in his comment. I tried to mention the same issue as an example happening at WHS yet I think you bypassed that. this isn't the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. If there was no accountability, what would happen in the following weeks?
The student athletes are required to sign a contract as part of the athletic registration process that specifically states they will not partake in alcohol or drugs during their season. They are also required to sign a social media contract that discusses proper use of social media in context to such items as bullying, negative and or inflammatory comments towards other players on other teams, their team, school and coaches. The parent also signs the overall athletic registration. Each head program coach is instructed to discuss the alcohol/drug policy and social media policy with their program at the start of every season and continue discussing as needed. Kids are probably not doing anything different now than adults did 20/30/40 years ago, the difference is now things are flaunted via social media.
When pictures etc are "anonymously" sent to the administration it makes for unpleasant times for everyone. Administrators would rather do anything than conduct an investigation as to what transpired the previous weekend, but because they are bound to do so as a result of the contract things such as suspensions occur.
One can argue and debate should the school have the authority to dictate what happens off campus, off hours in the privacy of a home for ever and you will get multiple arguments on both ends of the spectrum. To say that the administration goes hunting for weekend activities on social media is not true, but when allegations are presented to them they must do their due diligence and investigate.
As frustrating as the timing of the game was, the players broke a school rule, the consequences of breaking the rule are known and the individuals that participated in consuming alcohol and or drugs were held accountable to the contract they and their parents signed.
It is well known around the school that the athletes are held to a higher standard the rest of the students, because the community of Rocklin is small in comparison to other cities and all the young kids running around proudly wearing rocklin/whitney sports gear, the reality is the young kids recognize these high school student athletes from the athletic field no matter what sport. As such like it or not, the viewpoint is the athletes not only represent their schools but the community as well.
The other unfortunate thing will be all the other sports will be under a microscope certainly for the rest of the year as a result of what transpired, and that is unfair to those other student athletes.
When pictures etc are "anonymously" sent to the administration it makes for unpleasant times for everyone. Administrators would rather do anything than conduct an investigation as to what transpired the previous weekend, but because they are bound to do so as a result of the contract things such as suspensions occur.
One can argue and debate should the school have the authority to dictate what happens off campus, off hours in the privacy of a home for ever and you will get multiple arguments on both ends of the spectrum. To say that the administration goes hunting for weekend activities on social media is not true, but when allegations are presented to them they must do their due diligence and investigate.
As frustrating as the timing of the game was, the players broke a school rule, the consequences of breaking the rule are known and the individuals that participated in consuming alcohol and or drugs were held accountable to the contract they and their parents signed.
It is well known around the school that the athletes are held to a higher standard the rest of the students, because the community of Rocklin is small in comparison to other cities and all the young kids running around proudly wearing rocklin/whitney sports gear, the reality is the young kids recognize these high school student athletes from the athletic field no matter what sport. As such like it or not, the viewpoint is the athletes not only represent their schools but the community as well.
The other unfortunate thing will be all the other sports will be under a microscope certainly for the rest of the year as a result of what transpired, and that is unfair to those other student athletes.
