Great points. Yanni and Maile Williams are d1 talent no question. It’s always the people that say “ oh I’m not trying to throw shade” “ I’m not trying to hate” please save the nonsense you’re hating and tossing shade bubbles.
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Stop shade hating on these kids
You realize that Beecool55 and the poster Jazz from that past post are the same individual. I don't see any real criticism directed at the player, just the poster.
This issue goes way back. This poster when he was Jazz kept hyping this player on this board. No one criticized anything except his reason for hyping a southern cal player whom no one here even gets a chance to watch. Well the responses only came when the player failed to live up to the posters hype. The poster himself was upset so much that he made that post that was referred too.
Most if any criticism on these boards are not directed at the players, but some unrealistic hype that a poster states. Unless it is over the top few if any posters contradict the praise. Of course people give their own evaluations. That is not hate. Evaluating a players potential is not personal, rating services do that all the time. A players true ability will eventually surface irregardless of other peoples perspective. The only real variable is if we are correct or wrong.
You can not really throw shade on a players talent. The shade is thrown on the person evaluation of that talent that they do not agree with. What we think will not effect the reality. it is just an opinion and everyone has there own. Just remember and when someone is wrong you can aways come back with "I told you so's" Sort of like Clay did with Sabrina Ionescu. Now there was a case of people devaluing her talent and it had no effect on her at all.
We should, however, temper our opinions with reason to the point were we do not create a negative influence on the person we are evaluating. Lets do so with an eye on kindness.
I'll tell you what I will hate on. It is the miss use of the term Hate. It now is being used as an ad hominem attack on anyone that does not agree with our own evaluations of talent of any sort. If you don't care for a singer, actor, athlete, etc you are told you are hating on them. If you disagree with a persons point of view- you are accused of hating on them. Anything short of like is classified as hating.
Hate is a strong word and it's use to describe someones attitude is as negative as it can get. When it is used unfairly there very well might be some sort of manipulative agenda behind it. Usually to put someone on the defensive by playing the victim card to paint those in disagreement as bad guys. Though some people might actually just use it because it has become popular.
People should just come straight out and tell people where they are wrong. Such as when they are too critical of a young persons who might be reading these threads. Don't lump everything together as being a hate thing because it will equate the more serious things together with the lesser.
I must say that there are instances when the term hate might have real meaning. And that would be if a individual bias for a variety of reasons would influence their evaluation of their on court abilities. To be really objective we should be able to transcend our own personal likes and dislikes in respect to their actual abilities. Actually Beecools55 reason are similar. He likes players he perceives as underdogs, so his evaluation of their game is influenced by that. In that respect there is nothing wrong as long as that is acknowledged.