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Ayanna Clark

Great seeing her on the court again today she goes for 19 pts and 9 rebounds...
Fouled out with 3 mins to go...the other team flopping every chance they get
because they see...the opposing coach sees.... how physical Yanni plays
 
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Yanni 13 pts 17 rebounds....her team beats New Mexico JC(Number 1 team in the nation according to one poll) at the New Mexico JC's home court 61 to 58 Yanni not even in shape and she is just dominating play inside
 
That's nice and all, but she's a SoCal girl and this is a NorCal board. Probably makes more sense to post this where people know who she is ...
 
Post is for the 2 or 3 people who do care....
If you see a posted thread with a title or from a poster you don't care about...
here is a crazy idea don't open it...I only open about 10% of the posts...
because I could care less about 90% of the stuff....
 
Post is for the 2 or 3 people who do care....
If you see a posted thread with a title or from a poster you don't care about...
here is a crazy idea don't open it...I only open about 10% of the posts...
because I could care less about 90% of the stuff....

Make that one person.
 
Post is for the 2 or 3 people who do care....
If you see a posted thread with a title or from a poster you don't care about...
here is a crazy idea don't open it...I only open about 10% of the posts...
because I could care less about 90% of the stuff....
Dave, here is what I don't understand. You've been touting this player for a few years. Every time you write about her you mention she isn't in shape, plus her history shows she doesn't take care of business in the classroom> She is an apparent D1 talent that seems to lack drive and discipline and is now playing against JC players. I don't see the appeal - there are so many players that come from difficult backgrounds that do the necessary work - what is so special about this always out of shape kid playing against overmatched kids?
 
Yanni is a special talent...I like underdogs....when many people are against a person...chances are I am for that person....especially when that person has an "X" factor....
The article from the Socal vine...like I said is not...mine ...again just because I support one of the athletes I train...doesn't mean I am going to take it easy on them...in fact people I really like are the ones I almost brutally hard on...

If I had a chance to condition Yanni...she would be tested mentally and physically...way beyond what she has ever imagined...I also like Maile Williams after spending the previous 2 years in Stockton ...I also think Maile needs to get into shape...but I think she has tons of potential...This obviously is another athlete who is underdog based on the shade she gets

They both have open invitations....
 
Yanni is a special talent...I like underdogs....when many people are against a person...chances are I am for that person....especially when that person has an "X" factor....
The article from the Socal vine...like I said is not...mine ...again just because I support one of the athletes I train...doesn't mean I am going to take it easy on them...in fact people I really like are the ones I almost brutally hard on...

If I had a chance to condition Yanni...she would be tested mentally and physically...way beyond what she has ever imagined...I also like Maile Williams after spending the previous 2 years in Stockton ...I also think Maile needs to get into shape...but I think she has tons of potential...This obviously is another athlete who is underdog based on the shade she gets

They both have open invitations....
I understand your rooting for underdogs, but a 6'3" student athlete with over the top athletic skills that everyone has bent over backwards for is hardly an underdog. If fact, it appears that many in her life have been willing to bend the rules to accommodate her. But hey, to each their own.
 
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Underdogs have many faces..

BTW Yanni went for 24 pts and 14 rebounds last night...including 10 Offensive boards...
 
Underdogs have many faces..

BTW Yanni went for 24 pts and 14 rebounds last night...including 10 Offensive boards...
Its quite apparent that she can dominate at the JC level. In all seriousness we all hope she is getting the needed academic assistance she's needed all along. Hopefully there administrators out there that are truly looking out for her best interests.
 
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Yanni is a special talent...I like underdogs....when many people are against a person...chances are I am for that person....especially when that person has an "X" factor....
The article from the Socal vine...like I said is not...mine ...again just because I support one of the athletes I train...doesn't mean I am going to take it easy on them...in fact people I really like are the ones I almost brutally hard on...

If I had a chance to condition Yanni...she would be tested mentally and physically...way beyond what she has ever imagined...I also like Maile Williams after spending the previous 2 years in Stockton ...I also think Maile needs to get into shape...but I think she has tons of potential...This obviously is another athlete who is underdog based on the shade she gets

They both have open invitations....
Great points. Yanni and Maile Williams are d1 talent no question. It’s always the people that say “ oh I’m not trying to throw shade” “ I’m not trying to hate” please save the nonsense you’re hating and tossing shade bubbles.

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Stop shade hating on these kids
 
Great points. Yanni and Maile Williams are d1 talent no question. It’s always the people that say “ oh I’m not trying to throw shade” “ I’m not trying to hate” please save the nonsense you’re hating and tossing shade bubbles.

P.S.
Stop shade hating on these kids
You realize that Beecool55 and the poster Jazz from that past post are the same individual. I don't see any real criticism directed at the player, just the poster.

This issue goes way back. This poster when he was Jazz kept hyping this player on this board. No one criticized anything except his reason for hyping a southern cal player whom no one here even gets a chance to watch. Well the responses only came when the player failed to live up to the posters hype. The poster himself was upset so much that he made that post that was referred too.

Most if any criticism on these boards are not directed at the players, but some unrealistic hype that a poster states. Unless it is over the top few if any posters contradict the praise. Of course people give their own evaluations. That is not hate. Evaluating a players potential is not personal, rating services do that all the time. A players true ability will eventually surface irregardless of other peoples perspective. The only real variable is if we are correct or wrong.

You can not really throw shade on a players talent. The shade is thrown on the person evaluation of that talent that they do not agree with. What we think will not effect the reality. it is just an opinion and everyone has there own. Just remember and when someone is wrong you can aways come back with "I told you so's" Sort of like Clay did with Sabrina Ionescu. Now there was a case of people devaluing her talent and it had no effect on her at all.

We should, however, temper our opinions with reason to the point were we do not create a negative influence on the person we are evaluating. Lets do so with an eye on kindness.

I'll tell you what I will hate on. It is the miss use of the term Hate. It now is being used as an ad hominem attack on anyone that does not agree with our own evaluations of talent of any sort. If you don't care for a singer, actor, athlete, etc you are told you are hating on them. If you disagree with a persons point of view- you are accused of hating on them. Anything short of like is classified as hating.

Hate is a strong word and it's use to describe someones attitude is as negative as it can get. When it is used unfairly there very well might be some sort of manipulative agenda behind it. Usually to put someone on the defensive by playing the victim card to paint those in disagreement as bad guys. Though some people might actually just use it because it has become popular.

People should just come straight out and tell people where they are wrong. Such as when they are too critical of a young persons who might be reading these threads. Don't lump everything together as being a hate thing because it will equate the more serious things together with the lesser.

I must say that there are instances when the term hate might have real meaning. And that would be if a individual bias for a variety of reasons would influence their evaluation of their on court abilities. To be really objective we should be able to transcend our own personal likes and dislikes in respect to their actual abilities. Actually Beecools55 reason are similar. He likes players he perceives as underdogs, so his evaluation of their game is influenced by that. In that respect there is nothing wrong as long as that is acknowledged.
 
It's a fine line. When I was at Bentley, we had a male basketball player who believed he was a D1 player. We tried to steer him to D2 or NAIA, and he could have gotten financial help, which he needed, but the head of school told me in no uncertain terms "Don't step on his dreams."

OK, then ... there's some logic there.

But since no one really sat this kid down and said "D1 is really a reach," he turned down D2 offers, settled for JC and never played again.

So to say that a girl who is being promoted as a Power 5 player really isn't at that level might be what she needs to hear (or at least her dad). Or to say that a girl doesn't look to be a D1 rotation player and thus would be better off in D2 might be what she needs to hear.

Or maybe she should be allowed her dreams, even if they only have a tenuous relation to reality.
 
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When a parent comes on the message board, behind a screen name and touts their child as being great: odds are they are going to meet some resistance and that is not hate it is fair game.
 
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