Azzi Out
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So all those kids who signed with USF, for this year, next year, and in the last couple years, now no longer are playing for the coach they signed with.
The NCAA can imagine and pretend that players don’t sign with a coach, but with the school, but we all know that’s not true. So all of these players now don’t get the experience they signed up for – and yet they have to sit out a year if they decide to transfer.
When a coach leaves, players should be able to transfer and be eligible immediately.
The NCAA can imagine and pretend that players don’t sign with a coach, but with the school, but we all know that’s not true. So all of these players now don’t get the experience they signed up for – and yet they have to sit out a year if they decide to transfer.
When a coach leaves, players should be able to transfer and be eligible immediately.
Haley Vice Neat from Newman literally just committed last week.... Well they do lots of returners at USF and Azzi did a great job, but that does suck. You wonder how much truth was shed.
It's actually even worse than that Clay. The current players are "Azzi's players".The new coach will have little or no loyalty to these players once that coach's recruits arrive on campus. Happens all the time, almost without exception.
I see the argument, but disagree. Coaches come and go. Players should be looking at the institution and the education they will be receiving more than who is holding the clipboard. Too much transferring already.
Azzi did a good job and stayed through some thin times. Don't fault her for leaving, except for the timing.
I completely respect Coach Azzi decision. We all have our own personal reasoning for making big decisions. I also support a student athletes decision to transfer We all know the young student athletes put in many hours acedemically as well as athletically and some are fortunate enough to be offered an athletic scholarship in a sport they truly love to play. The young person usually goes through a lengthy recruiting process that in some cases involves a year to two year relationship with the head coach and their staff, essentially those coaches are the main link to that university. During that recruiting process the student athletes evaluate a number of criteria in hopes of ensuring good college experience. We all know a D1 athlete will be consumed with 90% of their revolving around their sport. The decision ultimately is a collaboration of understanding the institution, academics, athletics and the individuals you'll be spending a majority of time with. Given the fact of a head coach leaving, which I would consider a major impact to that young persons reasoning for attending the university in the first place, that young student athlete should be given the option to transfer under those circumstances.
Very well put ... now, personalogic had this to say:
"Too much transferring already."
Why? What's wrong with transferring? What's wrong with a young person deciding that a decision they made wasn't the right one?
And what's wrong with transferring for athletic reasons? If you transfer because you want to major in art history and your present school doesn't offer that major, is that wrong too?
And what qualifies as "too many transfers"? And what difference does it make how many there are?
Clay, you have better knowledge of the numbers in women's hoops than I do. But the trend is pretty obviously increasing by a large percentage over the last decade. There are several reasons why I think it should be discouraged, more so than at the prep level.
When you start off to college, you're making a major life decision. Probably your first big decision as an adult. That decision should be fueled primarily by your desire for the best possible education and personal growth. You know how much I love basketball, but if playing basketball is the only concern you have ...well ...that's not the mindset of a grown up person. Ditto if you make your college choice just to run up and down a court with a net on each end.
Once you get to college, there are a wealth of relationships to form and develop over time. Not just with coaches and other players. Dorm mates, professors, teaching assistants, counselors, and others in the college community. Coherent and consistent courses of study, campus issues and traditions, and more. If you enter college life with the idea that more playing time is more important than all of that put together, why are you even there in the first place?
Finally, there is not a player out there who wouldn't cry bloody murder if her coach came up to her at the end of the season and said "Your scholarship is being terminated. We found someone we like better." But it's ok for a player to say something similar to her coach or her program? A lot of time, thought, energy and money have been invested in your continued involvement, and you want to go shopping?
No doubt players are sometimes misled or even abused. And there unavoidable non-athletic things players are challenged by. I have no problem with reasonable exceptions in those circumstances. But at the D1 college level, the issues aren't the same as switching high schools or AAU clubs. You're in the adult world, and need to start thinking like one.
NorthBayguru- You think Vice stays with commitment? Not sure how all that works but the ink seems still wet.
Vice-Neat has made a "verbal" commitment. The NCAA fall signing day is on Nov 9. She has until then to change her mind.
They are in wait and see mode on who the new coach is before making their decision.
word on the street is whomever the associate head coach was last year is the #1 candidate right now. A little late in the game to be doing a full fledged search.
Thanks. I'm sure a lot of schools would love her services. Hope it works out the best for her. USF had something good going on and they always seem to screw it up.
She resign for personal reasons. Look at the video on USF front page. Explains everything!!!! Good luck to her on new Adventures!!!!!!
They are looking to hire one of the assist coaches. She might get the assist coach that was recruiting her!!!!!! Read the whole story what the AD WAS TALKING ABOUT HIRE internal!!!!!
The hiring of Molly Goodenbour for the USF opening illustrates the original argument here. She was hired to be the head coach at Cal State East Bay (Hayward State) in the first week of June. She did not coach an official game there before fleeing for USF this week. So much for any semblance of loyalty.
Welcome to the world of college athletics. Its cutthroat even in women's basketball. Gets worse in men's basketball and football
... and this is a non-revenue sport with tiny crowds, little media interest and a distinct lack of attention all the way around.
