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Eventually, most coaches will have to confront a tough situation: A great player who is also a behavior/attitude problem. The question becomes one of balance, not to mention personal sanity. How much do I want to win vs. how long will I let this terrific player drag down my team and me. I like to refer to it as "The Gifted Turd Syndrome," or GTS. The player can win you some ballgames, lose some as well and, in the process, make coaching about as pleasant as a root canal performed by a blind dentist with a rusty drill. We see this playing out now with the Warriors' Draymond Green. His me-me-me antics during the 2016 NBA playoffs essentially cost his team another title by being suspended for Game 5 of the Finals. Then, over the weekend, it was announced that he had been arrested for alleged assault in a Michigan bar. It is becoming very clear that this young man suffers from a bad case of GTS. Sooner or later, he will cost Golden State again. But the pros are different from the preps in that winning is absolutely paramount. The pros will put up with loads of guano from a guy with GTS if they win. So we wind up with another terrible role model for teens and their coaches.
 
Trash post... I hope there aren't too many Bay Area basketball fans that agree with you on this....
 
Eventually, most coaches will have to confront a tough situation: A great player who is also a behavior/attitude problem. The question becomes one of balance, not to mention personal sanity. How much do I want to win vs. how long will I let this terrific player drag down my team and me. I like to refer to it as "The Gifted Turd Syndrome," or GTS. The player can win you some ballgames, lose some as well and, in the process, make coaching about as pleasant as a root canal performed by a blind dentist with a rusty drill. We see this playing out now with the Warriors' Draymond Green. His me-me-me antics during the 2016 NBA playoffs essentially cost his team another title by being suspended for Game 5 of the Finals. Then, over the weekend, it was announced that he had been arrested for alleged assault in a Michigan bar. It is becoming very clear that this young man suffers from a bad case of GTS. Sooner or later, he will cost Golden State again. But the pros are different from the preps in that winning is absolutely paramount. The pros will put up with loads of guano from a guy with GTS if they win. So we wind up with another terrible role model for teens and their coaches.
At least he helped persuade KD to head West ;)
 
talk about a post taking a turn; then again the definition of insanity - coming to this site everyday thinking I'll read something fruitful.
 
Col. Henry I respect your basketball knowledge and cogent comments, but I respectfully disagree with this post and think you missed the mark. First, we don't know all the facts of the situation, so I cannot even offer a educated opinion. Until then, I am not going to pass judgment on the young man. Now other incidents suggest he may have an anger management problem and even he himself has suggested such. He may need some professional help in how to manage this side of his persona better. He has shown remorse in a number of situations, which is always a step in the right direction. Due to his very high profile, he may have to learn to do a better job of not putting himself in situations that provide opportunities for others to exploit. Even Ayesha Curry is learning tweeting, when you are the spouse of a high profile athlete, may not be the best approach to support your spouse, LOL!

Obviously, like many GSW fans, I am concerned about the number of incidents surrounding Draymond, but until more facts are gathered I cannot throw him under the bus, nor would I even if he is in the wrong. I truly believe he is a good dude, but his lack of a father figure in his life, may now be surfacing in his adult life and he may need to seek some counseling to deal with that void.

I hope the incident is not something more serious and that Draymond is willing enough to listen to a friend, confidante or mentor that he needs to possibly explore seeking some professional help or look for a different route on Waze to navigate his travels.
 
What's worrisome is the pattern of conduct. Much more of this stuff and Golden State management may have to re-evaluate Green's benefit to the program.
 
Unless he murdered, raped, molested, kidnapped someone or DWI, I dont care if he slaps some idiot fan who was talking trash to him and was probably drunk himself and probably deserved getting slapped with the words coming out of his mouth. There are predators out there looking to bate athletes into any monetary settlement. This is likely the case.
 
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Col. Henry I have only heard the term GTS once ever in my life and involved a sports reporter or ref I cant remember? Warriors listen to Col.Henry GTS spread last year on the Rockets don't want that for coming season!
 
The hope, if you are a Golden State fan, is that these disturbing signs of GTS on the part of Green can be tamped down with proper counseling, guidance and mature advice from people who have a real clue about how to behave as a professional athlete and responsible adult. As of today, no matter how this latest case in Michigan turns out, it seems pretty obvious that Green has issues with anger control. His NBA playoff behavior (non-stop jawing and whining, technical fouls, uncalled-for cheap shots, a crucial suspension in the Finals, etc.) was stunning in its lack of personal and team perspective. He is walking a tightrope; Warrior management cannot be pleased.
 
Let's hope Curry, Thompson and Durant can set Draymond straight. All high character men that lead by example.
 
Draymond is that type of player that lights the fire for the Dubbs. If they are sluggish he seems to generate energy that no other player on the team can because most of the other ones are passive. You need that type of guy to win games and win championships. I like his passion and think Draymond should continue to be Draymond minus kicking guys in the nuts lol
 
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That approach wound up killing the Warriors' title chances in the 2016 NBA Finals. His suspension in Game 5 was critical. He lacks self-control. At some point (soon), this young man needs to grow up and become a professional in the true meaning of the word.
 
That approach wound up killing the Warriors' title chances in the 2016 NBA Finals. His suspension in Game 5 was critical. He lacks self-control. At some point (soon), this young man needs to grow up and become a professional in the true meaning of the word.
I hear you, but you would have to be crazy to think that last tech deserved a suspension. Also the Warriors had TWO chances to close them out at home and one on the road. One game without him didn't lose the championship for the Warriors. Cleveland executed and their star player showed up to play. Draymond did his part, it was the other pieces that didn't show up, namely the MVP Curry.
 
He got the suspension for his total body of work. The dustup with James was the final straw. Green got lucky vs. OKC when he was not suspended in that series when he blatantly whacked the Thunder pivot in the privates. Green continually placed his team in jeopardy, ignoring the ramifications of his actions. You can argue, too, that Green's absence in Game 5 forced a fragile Bogut to play excessive minutes resulting in a knee injury that forced him out of subsequent games. But that's speculation at this point.
 
He got the suspension for his total body of work. The dustup with James was the final straw. Green got lucky vs. OKC when he was not suspended in that series when he blatantly whacked the Thunder pivot in the privates. Green continually placed his team in jeopardy, ignoring the ramifications of his actions. You can argue, too, that Green's absence in Game 5 forced a fragile Bogut to play excessive minutes resulting in a knee injury that forced him out of subsequent games. But that's speculation at this point.
I just would like to know one person besides Adam Silver, the TV network and Las Vegas that wanted Draymond suspended....
 
Every good citizen of the great state of Oklahoma certainly did. Not to mention the entire state of Ohio and surrounding precincts. Further, there was a lot of anti-Warrior feeling out there even prior to Durant's arrival in Oakland.
 
Every good citizen of the great state of Oklahoma certainly did. Not to mention the entire state of Ohio and surrounding precincts. Further, there was a lot of anti-Warrior feeling out there even prior to Durant's arrival in Oakland.
I think there was more anti Lebron.
 
Sounds more like a warrior fan who is still bitter about losing in the finals. Please stop blaming draymond. Should he cut out the nut shots? Of course, but the warriors were only with out him for 1 game, with 3 chances to close out. Plain and simple, cleveland wanted it more. And lbj proved why hes the best in the world. If there is blame to pass around, id lay it at the feet of the fans and the radio guys at knbr. The amount of arrogance i heard from these two groups after game 1 was embarassing. Its almost as if the basketball gods heard all that junk, looked down and said: "nope, not this year."
 
Here we go again. Green has just apologized for another immature, unprofessional, ridiculous and counter-productive personal gaffe that simply adds to his fresh image as a look-at-me guy who cannot control himself. And it seems to be getting worse. Get this guy to an adult advisor who has a clue. The 2016-17 NBA leash is going to be short.
 
He will be OK, he just seems to have an infatuation with male private parts...
 
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