Clayton Vs Berkeley
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Heritage 100- Dublin 98. double OT. Score posted on Maxpreps. Sounds like it was a doozy of a game.
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Both refs waive the basket off in the video.. Before I saw the video I was wondering if they both made different calls on the shot. Thanks for sharing this observer22.
If the timer and buzzer are in sync (I will assume Dublin's clock is state of the art) then the shot should have counted. The ball leaves the players hand before the buzzer. Game tied and winner should be determined by coin flip. If the game ended with a no call foul then game over. This IMO is different. Great game. Both should receive a CIF berth.
You're right Trivalley,, I just wish we could have seen the clock at the time in the video.
I bet there was someone else in the crowd that got the clock and the shooter in a video. A pro backboard that lights up would have shown it.
For any refs out there, do you know if the game officially ends when the clock shows zero or when the horn sounds? Does the horn even matter? After 1.0 there are still the tenths that click off.
It really doesn't matter, as they're not going to change the outcome, but that is about as close of a call as could be. What an ending to a great game - One for the ages.
It's when the clock expires, as it sets the horn off at 00:00. I know everyone says beat the buzzer but it's the clock.
There is a still picture on twitter that shows the scoreboard in background with clock at 0:00 and ball still in hand. Based on that ref's got it right.
Tough way to lose but Dublin also got the benefit of a call like this against DVHS that gave them the win.
There is also a still photo that I saw (on twitter I believe but please don't quote me) showing the ball still in his hand at 0:00. When I saw the video I thought the ref was wrong as well. I was relieved to see the photo
Reports yesterday Said the rule in high school basketball if there is no red light or led light on the basket
Which dublin didnt have one The game is decided by the signal (horn) ball was clearly off before the sound of the horn.
Which dublin didnt have one The game is decided by the signal (horn) ball was clearly off before the sound of the horn.
Interesting. Can you post the source? Again, not that it is going to change anything, but just good to know the rule and be able to assess what took place.
I can see that they my say at the light before the horn as the light faster and is visual as to the sound and they can play them both back.. I've seen a case where the game was not close but the horn malfunctioned as the clock expired and did not go off.. It's a rare possibility but I've witnessed it..
Again if Costello is going to complain about this call he should go back and look at the DVHS game and look through the same lense he is looking at this game. Would he admit DVHS was robbed?
Found the photo. The clock is definitely at 00.0 and the ball is still touching his fingers.
Here is the rule:
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Can’t hear the buzzer in a picture. In college or pro basketball you may be right. In HS basketball, it’s determined by horn
Just looked it up in the NFHS Rule Book. Rule 1-14. "In facilities without an LED light on each backboard, the audible timer's signal shall indicate that time has expired"
Really hard to blame the officials on this one. A split second decision has to be made and it's not like it was obvious. No instant replay rule in HS. There are obvious blown calls and this is not one of them. This literally could have gone either way.
Unfortunately for Dublin, this one didn't go their way, and even if it had been ruled a basket, we would have just had a 3rd OT and they may have still lost. The best solution would have been for Beasley's 3-pointer to have gone in and then they win without controversy. At least this doesn't end their season and they still get to play on in NorCal.
Unfortunately for Dublin, this one didn't go their way, and even if it had been ruled a basket, we would have just had a 3rd OT and they may have still lost. The best solution would have been for Beasley's 3-pointer to have gone in and then they win without controversy. At least this doesn't end their season and they still get to play on in NorCal.
It is pretty easy and appropriate to blame the officials. It was obvious to everyone that the shot was off before the buzzer. The buzzer went off right as the shot went in, not when it left the player's hand. Three officials did not know the rules, and that is unacceptable.
With that said, Heritage played a great game and will not be an easy out as they look to win the NCS tonight.
I'm not quite so sure it was that obvious to Heritage fans. It was loud and hectic. Like a close play at the plate, the call is going to be safe or out. Split second decision without the benefit of instant replay. You can blame the officials but I'm not going to, and I was rooting for Dublin.
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