After a 5/5 tie vote to see how to organize the new EBAL "super league" it was ultimately decided to go to a 10 team league rather than competitive equity and an A/B split. That means 1 non-league game so say bye-bye to any EBAL vs who ever games. Teams will probably still be able to opt out of DLS game which is gutless because these coaches and admin think Livermore can compete with EBAL team but EBAL can't compete with DLS. Dublin and DV got royally screwed here too as they enter from the DFAL when they came in under the assumption there would be competitive equity. Remember Livermore is 3-67 in EBAL the last 10 years, 0-60 against any team not named Granada. In that time their 5-1 against Dublin and DV. They only thing created here is a competive inequity for the bottom half of the league. "Super League?" What a joke, I remember when EBAL was respectable....
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Does this start next season (2016-2017 school year)? That is a shame. It weakens what has been a very good league.
As far as "opting out" of the DLS game, I wonder how many are even able to "opt in". If all 9 teams wanted to opt in, then DLS would only have 1 non-league game which would cripple their strength of schedule. Does DLS get to decide who to play of the teams that opt in, or is is just going to be the usual Cal & SRV with an occasional other team opting in when they have a strong team (MV, Foothill)? My understanding is that up to now, DLS was pretty much obligated to play any EBAL team that wanted to opt in. Is that still the case, or is there a limit to the number of EBAL teams that DLS will schedule? Won't be an issue if noboby else wants to play them, but what if Dublin or DV wants to play them to see what they have been missing?
As far as "opting out" of the DLS game, I wonder how many are even able to "opt in". If all 9 teams wanted to opt in, then DLS would only have 1 non-league game which would cripple their strength of schedule. Does DLS get to decide who to play of the teams that opt in, or is is just going to be the usual Cal & SRV with an occasional other team opting in when they have a strong team (MV, Foothill)? My understanding is that up to now, DLS was pretty much obligated to play any EBAL team that wanted to opt in. Is that still the case, or is there a limit to the number of EBAL teams that DLS will schedule? Won't be an issue if noboby else wants to play them, but what if Dublin or DV wants to play them to see what they have been missing?
What do you bet that only Cal and maybe SRV may schedule DLS and maybe none of the EBAL teams which give DLS a wide open schedule...No body wants to loose 60-0, there is no fun in that...
From what I understand DLS voted with the Livermore and incoming DFAL schools for the split league. The DLS opt out clause is still being discussed I think. The "top" teams want everybody to play them so they'll fight to get out of the league in the next realignment cycle. I was told it was discussed that only the bottom half of the league could opt out of DLS which would be ridiculous because it would essentially acknowledge the fact that the top half of the league is more competitive than the bottom half.
Yes 2016-2017 school year.... Another big travesty in this all is football will be the only sport in EBAL that doesn't do a 5/5 split. The only true contact sport were kids get seriously hurt in lopsided mismatches.... This "super league" is in no way a good idea
DLS has the best athletes in the best program in Northern California. Go play the other teams in the country. In fact create a section for those teams. They can play for best football team that money can buy team in youth athletics in America. My guess why Coach Lad left is because he saw what DLS is now and that is not what he started with. He had a bunch of kids who were not D1 kids but had a lot of heart and turned them into Champs! I have to think that is what made it satisfying to him, then to see these kids go on and not play football after High School rather go out and make a difference in the world. The Green Machine is driven by a whole new set of principles talent and kids families who can finance talent.
Dublin and DV do have the facilities to attract players. Now that they are in the EBAL and get to play in the best league perhaps they will attract players form other cities.
Livermore is a dump and I expect them to plummet further.
I wonder if the decision was based on the entire sports program rather than just football.
Dublin has really good basketball, swimming, soccer.
DV has good golf, swimming and soccer.
Livermore is a dump and I expect them to plummet further.
I wonder if the decision was based on the entire sports program rather than just football.
Dublin has really good basketball, swimming, soccer.
DV has good golf, swimming and soccer.
Looks like you might have some issues to work out. If you read mshNasty's first post a little slower it might help you focus on the topic of this thread. If that doesn't work out try this:
Concrete ...witty comeback you are a genious! Good on ya! Wish we could all be as smart as you..BTW I could give 2 poops of what you think about my posts. This post was about EBAL. DLS is not in EBAL. There is a lot of DLS chatter on this thread and on this board and its quite sickening really. If it makes grown ass men feel good about themselves to ride the coat tails of hard working young men knock yourselves out.
wow, i feel bad for Dublin and DV
they do not stand a chance
this also kills any chance for EBAL teams to schedule against other top non league teams
we always see a few good BVAL vs EBAL matchups
or an EBAL vs a SJS section team or something
now they will all be fighting for week 1 games and then on to league
they do not stand a chance
this also kills any chance for EBAL teams to schedule against other top non league teams
we always see a few good BVAL vs EBAL matchups
or an EBAL vs a SJS section team or something
now they will all be fighting for week 1 games and then on to league
1) Concrete ...witty comeback you are a genious! Good on ya! Wish we could all be as smart as you..
Thanks......thought that new word 'genious' was a nice touch.
2) This post was about EBAL. DLS is not in EBAL. There is a lot of DLS chatter on this thread.......
BINGO!!! That was the main point of my post. AS mshNASTY said in his opening thread the EBAL had a chance to create a true "Super League" with an A/B split based on competitiveness. Those top 5 teams that have shown consistent winning records would compete at the A level while the other, smaller teams would compete at the B level; more equity and practicality in levels of competition.......no rocket surgery there.
Instead the powers that be voted 5-5, I believe to continue the status quo allowing the A teams to schedule and pound the bo-jeezus out of the B teams rather than schedule other more competitive.non-league teams. No honor there as far as I can see unless one labors under the General Custer complex.
The DLS chatter was not about inequity of DLS's competitiveness. The "chatter" was about the the opportunity or rather lost opportunity to opt out from scheduling a game with the Spartans. As I have read most of the posters on this particular thread they are not Spartan backers. Their interest lies with other EBAL, DVAL schools and programs on the other side of the Bay. Here was an opportunity to really concentrate on EBAL competitiveness by ignoring the team on Winton Drive and focus on the 680 teams.
3) There is a lot of DLS chatter......... on this board and its quite sickening really. If it makes grown ass men feel good about themselves to ride the coat tails of hard working young men knock yourselves out.
God bless the 1st amendment of the Constitution.......If that's how you feel, knock yourself out Primo. I respect your right to express yourself, agree to disagree, etc, etc., flatulate away, this is a public forum.
My whole point in my first post was that this thread was not about DLS and whatever issues you might have with program and "grown ass men who feel good about themselves" .......Go out there and start your own thread on this theme, rant away........Just imagine you too could have your own thread with your name on the opening post.......Now that is the way to pump up those Post #'s, pronto.
Your moniker 'EBALISBEAST' is actually what I would like to see for the EBAL. I would like to see them becoming one of NorCal's beast leagues. For all intents and purposes DLS football is not in that League, cannot play for the League championship or make a statistical difference in League standings. If this season's DLS schedule is any indication they are just as happy to be out of League standings as you must be not to have them there. Qual est el problema?
Simply, the voters on the new EBAL format pussed out.
4) BTW I could give 2 poops of what you think about my posts.
Now there you go!! 8 posts in and you get it,
I never take these things too serious. I see the humor in some of "these grown ass men" who get wrapped up in some of these posts. Look most of us take an interest in this sport for whatever the reason as varied as those reasons may be. But I always say no matter how involved you may be here these threads, posts, opinions or whatever it does not pay your mortgage or rent, put groceries in the fridge or keep the lights on in the house.....or if you're still single, get you laid.
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Finally after +40 years!
E-Beast this is going to be a fun year. See you 'round......
E-Beast this is going to be a fun year. See you 'round......
Interesting point. So who are the other local teams supposed to play with 10 teams dropping out of the pool of available teams? For instance BVAL vs EBAL seemed like a no brainer due to their close proximity. Now BVAL teams have to search for non league games when in the past they were a given. This new EBAL makes no sense.
Where the realignment went wrong is the didn't make it a 12 team league. The old EBAL coaches were hell bent on getting rid of DLS and avoiding adding CVC to the league. CVC and College Park would have been perfect fits (CP good in DFAL too). These old timers had such tunnel vision about avoiding playing anybody good that in turn they created a weaker league that won't get them ready for playoffs. Even then they probably play each other in NCS half the time anyways. Even the the local pop warner teams will travel more than new EBAL!
The 12 team league only make sense in college with the conference championship. In highschool it really doesnt matter. Without the conference championship game a 12 team league is really 2, 6 team leagues. I will agree thought that 12 is way better than 10 because its easier to split the 12. What was/is the purpose of a 10 team league?
which 5 dummies voted for this plan?
I would guess MV right away... after that who?
Liv/Granada couldnt possibly want this.
I could see Foothill voting for it- they dont like to challenge themselves schedule wise.
Who are the fab 5?
I would guess MV right away... after that who?
Liv/Granada couldnt possibly want this.
I could see Foothill voting for it- they dont like to challenge themselves schedule wise.
Who are the fab 5?
Bay Shore does a 12 team split that works. Every 2 years top from B bottom from A flip. Two 6 team leagues would have made scheduling easy with BVAL and BSAL
DJGaucho......It looks like Campolindio will dominate a couple more years, but starting this year, the Cougars will have their hands full in league play, I don't think that Campolindo would do very well in the EBAL.......How does El Cerrito look???. You have been very quiet......
At least Dublin and Dougherty Valley are both division 1 schools now as they get tossed into the EBAL fire.
Campo is still division 3, and although they'd beat Livermore, Granada, Dublin & Dougherty, I don't think they'd fare very well vs. the upper tier EBAL teams.
http://cifncs.org/sports/football/files/15FBDivisions.pdf
Campo could compete in EBAL surely.
D1 players are coming out of there at a somewhat consistent basis, one last year, 2 more this year. And a confident winning tradition.
This alignment is terrible.
AV FHS MV SRV and CAL stupidly voted this way thinking there would be a "no opt out" clause, then they would get all EBAL teams to to play DLS and then DLS would get bent out of shape only being able to schedule one Competative national game, welp, that backfired on these fossils. Now EBAL coaches are going to be begging the lower tier teams to not opt out of DLS so they option out of the league....uhhhh, Ok, like these coaches are gonna let these teams screw them over then do what they say... Just silly. DUB, LIV, GRAN, DV, will all opt out, and DLS lives happily ever after.
D1 players are coming out of there at a somewhat consistent basis, one last year, 2 more this year. And a confident winning tradition.
This alignment is terrible.
AV FHS MV SRV and CAL stupidly voted this way thinking there would be a "no opt out" clause, then they would get all EBAL teams to to play DLS and then DLS would get bent out of shape only being able to schedule one Competative national game, welp, that backfired on these fossils. Now EBAL coaches are going to be begging the lower tier teams to not opt out of DLS so they option out of the league....uhhhh, Ok, like these coaches are gonna let these teams screw them over then do what they say... Just silly. DUB, LIV, GRAN, DV, will all opt out, and DLS lives happily ever after.
If this were a sports movie it might fall somewhere around "Dodge Ball", "Major League", Mighty Ducks" and "White Men Can't Jump'........if it is true.
If this were a sports movie they'd find a way to make DLS seem like the underdog inner city team that had no business on the field with their opponent.... Oh wait they already did that. Maybe in the sequel Livermore will be the evil villain as they run rough shot over the EBAL on their way to total domination over DLS and the state
A few years back Campo (2010) came in last place in the DFAL too. Go figure.
http://www.calpreps.com/2010/2_Diablo_Foothill.htm
But it's ok for you to withhold credit to kids hard work
In 2011, SRV's senior, junior, and freshman classes had all beat DLS as freshman, but DLS's varsity best SRV's varsity (inc the #2 rated QB in the country) twice
40-3
49-14
The 14 came after it was 42-0 in the 4th quarter, so effectively the DLS kids beat the same SRV kids that had best them as freshman 82-3
That's the measuremt of the work difference or do you think DLS changed the players in between?
One reason a team occasionally beats DLS frosh team is because DLS often moves a handful of their best players up to the JV level.
DLSPop you lost me! Concrete has already brought up the fact that my comprehension is suspect so not sure what you are expecting. How bout them Cubs?
