Josh WIlliams commits to San Diego City College

[Streak One]

Sheldon 2020 guard Josh Williams will play at San Diego City College next year. Williams, the NorCal Player of the Year, was also one of the most improved players in the area this past season in helping lead Sheldon to the NorCal Open Division Finals before play was halted.

Williams was also co-Player of the Year by the Sacramento Bee.

 

[ankleassassin]

san diego won a state title in 2017. congrats

 

[Azanna]

I'm not trying to be Negative but why are we announcing Jr. College commitments, I don't even think its even a commitment is it?

 

[vukovich]

I'm not trying to be Negative but why are we announcing Jr. College commitments, I don't even think its even a commitment is it?

I concur it’s getting somewhat pathetic.

 

[En4cr]

I'm not trying to be Negative but why are we announcing Jr. College commitments, I don't even think its even a commitment is it?

This is the new norm as JC's vie for market space with the prep schools.

It is OK to stay home and play JC ball.
In Sac area, CRC, SCC, ARC, FLC, and Sierra, could have some very deep teams. Out of town JC's doing great job of luring players out of town.

 

[Azanna]

This is the new norm as JC's vie for market space with the prep schools.

It is OK to stay home and play JC ball.
In Sac area, CRC, SCC, ARC, FLC, and Sierra, could have some very deep teams. Out of town JC's doing great job of luring players out of town.

I never said it was not okay to play JC ball I was just wondering why we're treating it same way as a four year.

 

[FLAGRANT]

I never said it was not okay to play JC ball I was just wondering why we're treating it same way as a four year.

Vukovich,
I recall last year a few kids from Grant promoting their decisions which were also Jucos via social media. You did not seem to be bothered by it then. But now that a Sheldon kid announces it, it’s all of a sudden pathetic?? Ridiculous.

 

[Coach FJ]

I see nothing wrong with announcing the decision to go to a JC just as if they were going to a 4 yr school.

The JC coaches are building relationships with players and their families and are coming out to games recruiting the players and at some point there's an agreement reached. Most of these players are putting in just as much if not more work than the D-1 kids.

Plus it's nice to know where players are going to play at next year especially if its one of our top players.

 

[vukovich]

Vukovich,
I recall last year a few kids from Grant promoting their decisions which were also Jucos via social media. You did not seem to be bothered by it then. But now that a Sheldon kid announces it, it’s all of a sudden pathetic?? Ridiculous.

I didn’t criticize any player. I mentioned a media outlet that is posting Juco commitments as if it is a 4 year scholarship.

 

[ankleassassin]

I never said it was not okay to play JC ball I was just wondering why we're treating it same way as a four year.

the same time it became the thing for people to be on facebook, instagram, twitter and snapchat... or even this site... people want to know and people love to show. As well as it is an accomplishment for a kid to play college basketball even at the JC level. Hundreds of kids in Sacramento arent ever playing again so its a big deal no doubt.

 

[Streak One]

I think there is an interest where one of the best unsigned seniors is going. I don't think anyone is logically comparing this announcement to a player going to the four year, but there is a news value to it.

 

[MC415]

I think there is an interest where one of the best unsigned seniors is going. I don't think anyone is logically comparing this announcement to a player going to the four year, but there is a news value to it.

keep it coming streak! Love seeing where these kids are going to play and able to follow them......congrats to Josh and I bet we see him playing D1 in a couple of years

 

[larry legend33]

If anything it’s informative. Hey where did xyz end up going?

 

[Azanna]

Vukovich,
I recall last year a few kids from Grant promoting their decisions which were also Jucos via social media. You did not seem to be bothered by it then. But now that a Sheldon kid announces it, it’s all of a sudden pathetic?? Ridiculous.

This is not a knock on Sheldon they do a GREAT JOB and there kids are outstanding young men. My question was about Grant kids or any kid. I have tremendous respect for Sheldon and would hope that Grant could get to there level one day. Okay clown (FLAGRANT)

 

[Norcal_Fan]

I concur it’s getting somewhat pathetic.

What's more pathetic is that a kid like this is going JC when he should be doing to a D1 school. Who's the onus on? Player, coach, both??

 

[FLAGRANT]

What's more pathetic is that a kid like this is going JC when he should be doing to a D1 school. Who's the onus on? Player, coach, both??

my kid gets bad grades because of his basketball coach....... let that sink in.

 

[Norcal_Fan]

my kid gets bad grades because of his basketball coach....... let that sink in.

if a coach lets a player keep playing when he's not cutting the mustard in the classroom, it's a disservice to the coach. A coach shouldn't ONLY be teaching a kid about the game of basketball, but really life skills...hence the term "student-athlete", not just athlete. Personally, I think it's a partnership between player, coach, and parents. But that's not always the case...

 

[sachoopcoach]

if a coach lets a player keep playing when he's not cutting the mustard in the classroom, it's a disservice to the coach. A coach shouldn't ONLY be teaching a kid about the game of basketball, but really life skills...hence the term "student-athlete", not just athlete. Personally, I think it's a partnership between player, coach, and parents. But that's not always the case...

Making sure a player is eligible is the responsibility of four parties: the player, the parents, the AD, and the coach.

 

[larry_c]

Bashing an announcement of a kid who went to a JUCO? Really?!? Thats what we’ve come to? I for one like to follow many of these kids careers no matter the route. He was a standout in the area and if not for updates on this message board, I wouldnt know where some of these kids were headed after HS. I like the updates so i know what their next step is whether thats JUCO, Prep, NAIA, D1-D3.

 

[MC415]

Kinda the point of norcalpreps to keep tabs on the kids we enjoy watching play regardless of level, like I said keep it coming it’s a great to keep tabs and I don’t care how they announce it, as long as the kids keep trying to get their education and play then all the props to all of them let’s celebrate that with them

 

[kiddman32]

Anyone who can score 13.9 ppg on the loaded Sheldon roster has serious game. And knows how to WIN.

SDCC has themselves an incoming stud...

 

[FLAGRANT]

if a coach lets a player keep playing when he's not cutting the mustard in the classroom, it's a disservice to the coach. A coach shouldn't ONLY be teaching a kid about the game of basketball, but really life skills...hence the term "student-athlete", not just athlete. Personally, I think it's a partnership between player, coach, and parents. But that's not always the case...

No. A coaches job is to develop a player and make sure he gets a 2.0. Stop holding coaches accountable for kids not getting into colleges. Most kids play freshmen and JV. If they have failed a class by the time they reach Varsity, good chance they might not qualify. It’s the varsity coaches job to make sure he passes every class before he even gets to Varsity? Do your damn homework, stop texting, listen to your teachers and apply yourself. People want to blame everyone but their own child for not being successful. Half the time the kids don’t even listen to the coach, to busy taking orders from his dad in the stands. Such a joke.

 

[vukovich]

What's more pathetic is that a kid like this is going JC when he should be doing to a D1 school. Who's the onus on? Player, coach, both??

Williams is a very good player his abilities remind me of Zay brooks (Chico state) and the other lefty at cal state east bay (his name escapes me). I am surprised no D1 took a shot on Hewitt from Sheldon he has a world of potential imo.

 

[Jumper3]

I'm not trying to be Negative but why are we announcing Jr. College commitments, I don't even think its even a commitment is it?

Thank you! I was thinking the same thing.

 

[OtherBrotha]

It’s more about the nor Cal player of the year.. he’s a player and a name in our region it’s only right we know where he’s going. Idc if it’s Duke or ITT tech its news. Big ups to Josh and his family. I’m sure he’s going to ball out

 

[Norcal_Fan]

No. A coaches job is to develop a player and make sure he gets a 2.0. Stop holding coaches accountable for kids not getting into colleges. Most kids play freshmen and JV. If they have failed a class by the time they reach Varsity, good chance they might not qualify. It’s the varsity coaches job to make sure he passes every class before he even gets to Varsity? Do your damn homework, stop texting, listen to your teachers and apply yourself. People want to blame everyone but their own child for not being successful. Half the time the kids don’t even listen to the coach, to busy taking orders from his dad in the stands. Such a joke.

you really have no clue about the role of people who work in education. A coach should not only be a "coach" but mentor and care about the well being of his players. The head varsity coach should have a pulse on EVERY player in his program. If he's not doing grade checks, then he's definitely doing a disservice to the kids at his school. Think about the term...STUDENT-athlete...its a dual concept that a lot of people fail to recognize

 

[ankleassassin]

you really have no clue about the role of people who work in education. A coach should not only be a "coach" but mentor and care about the well being of his players. The head varsity coach should have a pulse on EVERY player in his program. If he's not doing grade checks, then he's definitely doing a disservice to the kids at his school. Think about the term...STUDENT-athlete...its a dual concept that a lot of people fail to recognize

you kind of no clue either if you are on here going in on a kid who has earned a spot at the next level. You have zero idea why he went on this path. You have already made up your mind that he could not get his grades right to be elsewhere. You sound pretty bad yourself big fella.

 

[Streak One]

Williams is a very good player his abilities remind me of Zay brooks (Chico state) and the other lefty at cal state east bay (his name escapes me). I am surprised no D1 took a shot on Hewitt from Sheldon he has a world of potential imo.

I would guess the missing spring period hurt his and a number of other players' recruitments

 

[Norcal_Fan]

you kind of no clue either if you are on here going in on a kid who has earned a spot at the next level. You have zero idea why he went on this path. You have already made up your mind that he could not get his grades right to be elsewhere. You sound pretty bad yourself big fella.

as usual, you can't comprehend that im talking about players and coaches in general.

 

[H.E.A.T.]

No. A coaches job is to develop a player and make sure he gets a 2.0. Stop holding coaches accountable for kids not getting into colleges. Most kids play freshmen and JV. If they have failed a class by the time they reach Varsity, good chance they might not qualify. It’s the varsity coaches job to make sure he passes every class before he even gets to Varsity? Do your damn homework, stop texting, listen to your teachers and apply yourself. People want to blame everyone but their own child for not being successful. Half the time the kids don’t even listen to the coach, to busy taking orders from his dad in the stands. Such a joke.

100% well said. Some posters on here don’t understand the difference between being D1 eligible and eligible to play high school. GPA for playing HS is all classes. D1 eligible is GPA from core classes only. 4 years of English required. 3 years Math etc. You also cannot retake a class to improve your GPA when you begin your Senior year. You can have a 2.0 to be eligible to play high school including PE , electives , all classes . D1 is 2.3 with a 980 SAT. HUGE DIFfERENCE

so @Norcal_Fan this question I ask you.
You are a Coach . You begin your Season and you have a kid who is eligible to play. Do you tell him Sorry your a D1 athlete and you aren’t gonna qualify so I’m gonna cut you . Or you continue to help him follow his dreams and make the most out of the situation he has put himself in.

Look coaches can constantly get on kids to do your homework , make sure your in class etc but at the end of the day it’s up to the kid and especially the parent to be on top of the kids grades. Parents and kids both have access to an app Parent vue/student vue to know at all times attendance, assignments , grades etc. Coaches don’t have access to each player unless he has them in a class. I have a high school student who has a 4.5 GPA and I look at their grades all the time to make sure they are on task . Sorry but majority of blame is on the student and parent.

 

[ankleassassin]

as usual, you can't comprehend that im talking about players and coaches in general.

I clearly understood it falls on several parties. I added you have no clue about why he went where he went. Maybe one of the parties thought it would be best. Not that he was forced to do it because of grades.

 

[Norcal_Fan]

100% well said. Some posters on here don’t understand the difference between being D1 eligible and eligible to play high school. GPA for playing HS is all classes. D1 eligible is GPA from core classes only. 4 years of English required. 3 years Math etc. You also cannot retake a class to improve your GPA when you begin your Senior year. You can have a 2.0 to be eligible to play high school including PE , electives , all classes . D1 is 2.3 with a 980 SAT. HUGE DIFfERENCE

so @Norcal_Fan this question I ask you.
You are a Coach . You begin your Season and you have a kid who is eligible to play. Do you tell him Sorry your a D1 athlete and you aren’t gonna qualify so I’m gonna cut you . Or you continue to help him follow his dreams and make the most out of the situation he has put himself in.

Look coaches can constantly get on kids to do your homework , make sure your in class etc but at the end of the day it’s up to the kid and especially the parent to be on top of the kids grades. Parents and kids both have access to an app Parent vue/student vue to know at all times attendance, assignments , grades etc. Coaches don’t have access to each player unless he has them in a class. I have a high school student who has a 4.5 GPA and I look at their grades all the time to make sure they are on task . Sorry but majority of blame is on the student and parent.

Sorry, if you misunderstood me. No, that's not what i was suggesting. Of course I'm gonna help the kid follow his dreams but if the kid is a freshman, I should have a vested interest in making sure he's keeping up with his grades. Albeit, the Frosh, JV or if he's on varsity, me. IF he is not an automatic qualifier, then yes help him by finding a good place for him to play. I do agree that the bottom line is kids are responsible for their actions, but it's my belief that a lot of kids need guidance because maybe they don't get it at home.

Coaches hold a very strong motivational tool with athletics. Go to class or don't play. At progress report time, check grades and get help for those that are struggling. I remember at Oakland High back in the late 90's the girls coach starting asking teachers to help tutor kids. The boys team also got involved and for 4 days a week, they were getting after school tutoring and it was mandatory. Guess what happened? over the course of 4 years only 2 kids was ineligible. Pretty awesome if you ask me.

 

[Norcal_Fan]

I clearly understood it falls on several parties. I added you have no clue about why he went where he went. Maybe one of the parties thought it would be best. Not that he was forced to do it because of grades.

AGAIN, i'm talking about players in general. NOT A SPECIFIC player. Common Crenshaw...pay attention! haha

 

[ankleassassin]

AGAIN, i'm talking about players in general. NOT A SPECIFIC player. Common Crenshaw...pay attention! haha

ok but still..... isnt that what this site if for??!?!? all players to announce??!?! it isnt like he announced he is joining the Army or going to Culinary school!

 

[H.E.A.T.]

Sorry, if you misunderstood me. No, that's not what i was suggesting. Of course I'm gonna help the kid follow his dreams but if the kid is a freshman, I should have a vested interest in making sure he's keeping up with his grades. Albeit, the Frosh, JV or if he's on varsity, me. IF he is not an automatic qualifier, then yes help him by finding a good place for him to play. I do agree that the bottom line is kids are responsible for their actions, but it's my belief that a lot of kids need guidance because maybe they don't get it at home.

Coaches hold a very strong motivational tool with athletics. Go to class or don't play. At progress report time, check grades and get help for those that are struggling. I remember at Oakland High back in the late 90's the girls coach starting asking teachers to help tutor kids. The boys team also got involved and for 4 days a week, they were getting after school tutoring and it was mandatory. Guess what happened? over the course of 4 years only 2 kids was ineligible. Pretty awesome if you ask me.

WHAT does only 2 kids being ineligible have to do with being D1 Eligible . I can’t tell you any player in recent memory that was ineligible at Sheldon.

And if you want to relate anything college wise I’ll stop you in your tracks before you get a chance . In the 90’s all you needed was a 2.0 with 11 core 3 English and 2 math classes with 700 SAT.
Today you need a 2.3 with 4 English , 3 math with a 980 SAT .
Quite different. Lots of wiggle room in the 90’s vs today to make up freshman missteps.
Also I don’t believe there are many coaches out there who go and set up a D1 path to all incoming freshman who play Basketball . Or all 50-60 kids who play freshman/JV football. IN hoop if you are that kid who is a freshman and plays Varsity then yes maybe the Coach has a better involvement in that process. As long as I can remember all Freshman who played hoop at Sheldon ended up with scholarships.

 

[Norcal_Fan]

WHAT does only 2 kids being ineligible have to do with being D1 Eligible . I can’t tell you any player in recent memory that was ineligible at Sheldon.

And if you want to relate anything college wise I’ll stop you in your tracks before you get a chance . In the 90’s all you needed was a 2.0 with 11 core 3 English and 2 math classes with 700 SAT.
Today you need a 2.3 with 4 English , 3 math with a 980 SAT .
Quite different. Lots of wiggle room in the 90’s vs today to make up freshman missteps.
Also I don’t believe there are many coaches out there who go and set up a D1 path to all incoming freshman who play Basketball . Or all 50-60 kids who play freshman/JV football. IN hoop if you are that kid who is a freshman and plays Varsity then yes maybe the Coach has a better involvement in that process. As long as I can remember all Freshman who played hoop at Sheldon ended up with scholarships.

It's not a D1 path or being D1 eligible dummy. It's having a vested interest in the players in your program-making sure they're goin to class, making sure they're getting the grades to put them in that position IF THEY CHOOSE to go there. How effing hard is it to understand? It seems to me you want a coach who will ONLY coach your kid..that's fine. But do you think coaches like Lou Ritchie, Frank Knight, Kennedy, or Stamps just coach kids? I'd be shocked if they don't know how kids are doing in school or if they're not going to class. You don't believe that there are many coaches out there that create a path for success, but there are are a few and those guys are the ones in developing the whole person...Those are the guys people should learn from.

 

[H.E.A.T.]

It's not a D1 path or being D1 eligible dummy. It's having a vested interest in the players in your program-making sure they're goin to class, making sure they're getting the grades to put them in that position IF THEY CHOOSE to go there. How effing hard is it to understand? It seems to me you want a coach who will ONLY coach your kid..that's fine. But do you think coaches like Lou Ritchie, Frank Knight, Kennedy, or Stamps just coach kids? I'd be shocked if they don't know how kids are doing in school or if they're not going to class. You don't believe that there are many coaches out there that create a path for success, but there are are a few and those guys are the ones in developing the whole person...Those are the guys people should learn from.

Slow your roll with the dummy. Your first post on here was how pathetic it was a kid is going to jc vs D1 then follow up with some bs story of how a bunch of kids at Oakland high we’re eligible to play in the 90’s. Which one is it D1 or high school eligible. And I didn’t ever say anything about creating paths. You don’t know the situation so I don’t even know why I’m having this convo with you. Besides you think a public school coach that gets a 2000 dollar a year stipend is suppose to be fully responsible and baby sit and hold the hand for 40-50 kids year round. Basketball is over In March and school gets out in June. Coaches have kids and families to worry about also. Kids and there parents are accountable for themselves. All kids on Varsity were eligible and made sure they went to class. Sheldon basketball also over the last several years has more than once was awarded the highest GPA of all sports from all schools in EGUSD. You sound like a disgruntled dad whose kid didn’t make it and your mad at the coach. I’m done responding

 

[passfirst]

Congratulations to Josh. On another note dealing with the other part of the post. I was at an inner city sporting conference years ago when the NCAA announced the rule would go into effect in 2016. Although a player would be eligible per high school rules, he is not meeting minimum requirements for the NCAA. As a matter of fact I know a few coaches who tried to implement those requirements for their programs. Most were met with heavy resistance from parents, and administrators. Because they did not have the authority to superced official high school requirements.

 

[FBNS]

Biggest thing is making sure they qualify with grades. C's or better in your A-g classes. Pass 2 years of language with C's or better. More than just dominating your opponents on the floor, GPA and grades are a big factor. Coaches will coach but I do not know any coach that would do a player's homework assignment or take a test for them.

 

[CityVibesII]

JC with possibitlity to play right away and find his way v. a kid who gets a "letter of intent" moment (picture with coach and family, etc) and sits the bench for a year or two for the first or second school to take an interest, then transfers. There are plenty of them.

Not everybody ready for a DII or DI Ievel school coming out of school for a variety of reasons. Congrats for moving on.