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Left w MM ahead 74-33 after 3Q. AM paper lists (score only) final as 102-38. Having hard time wrapping my head around that final--28-5 in 4Q with running clock and bench cleared. I'm assuming it's a misprint, but if anybody was there (and stayed) and can confirm and explain, I'd appreciate it. Life continues to become more mysterious. Need to look for my car keys now...
 
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Left w MM ahead 74-33 after 3Q. AM paper lists (score only) final as 102-38. Having hard time wrapping my head around that final--28-5 in 4Q with running clock and bench cleared. I'm assuming it's a misprint, but if anybody was there (and stayed) and can confirm and explain, I'd appreciate it. No observations about MM's moral corruption, coming from underneath Stockton bridges, needed. Life continues to become more mysterious. Need to look for my car keys now...
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Unfortunately I heard a similar score through the grapevine. Can you try to give me a clearer picture of why the game was so one-sided? I know Miramonte is a good team. But Campolindo is a pretty good "young" team themselves. I was not in attendance so I haven't a clue about how the game went at any point in time. Please provide an update on how the game went. Were there key players missing? Or anything else unusual?
 
in their last meeting, MM trailed at the end of 1Q, then outscored C 60-17 the following two quarters to make it a rout. last night C trailed by mid-teens at half, then got run over in 3Q. When you see that in the box score, it usually means MM's opponent wilted under the defensive pressure, and/or MM got hot from the field, both last night. when a team loses its composure v the press, MM can score bunches quickly.
in 3rd Q, a kid from C was taken off the court hobbling with one leg bent, the other bearing all her weight. I hate seeing that--hoping it's not a knee and that she's OK. been there. 28-5 in 4th quarter still doesn't add up. unless it was in favor of C, with a final of 79-61 and MM staying w bench despite C closing. still, with a running clock...
 
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in their last meeting, MM trailed at the end of 1Q, then outscored C 60-17 the following two quarters to make it a rout. last night C trailed by mid-teens at half, then got run over in 3Q. When you see that in the box score, it usually means MM's opponent wilted under the defensive pressure, and/or MM got hot from the field, both last night. when a team loses its composure v the press, MM can score bunches quickly.
in 3rd Q, a kid from C was taken off the court hobbling with one leg bent, the other bearing all her weight. I hate seeing that--hoping it's not a knee and that she's OK. been there. 28-5 in 4th quarter still doesn't add up. unless it was in favor of C, with a final of 79-61 and MM staying w bench despite C closing. still, with a running clock...
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Yeah injuries are the worse part of the game. If it happens to one of your energy players it can take a lot of the air out of your sails. Hopefully the injury was not serious. MM is just the better team until proven otherwise. I personally like both of the teams that is why I was concerned.
 
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Unfortunately I heard a similar score through the grapevine. Can you try to give me a clearer picture of why the game was so one-sided? I know Miramonte is a good team. But Campolindo is a pretty good "young" team themselves. I was not in attendance so I haven't a clue about how the game went at any point in time. Please provide an update on how the game went. Were there key players missing? Or anything else unusual?
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At the end of the first half the score was 40-29 (29 is about as many points an any team has scored against MM all season).
At the start of the second half one of the Campo starters went down with a leg injury (and I don't know how she is but I hope it is nothing serious), shortly after that another of the Campo starters fouled out . So now Campo is down 2 starters and later in the third period another Campo starter was in foul trouble so they are left with only 2 starters playing along with bench players. Begin a young team Campo's biggest weakest is their bench; and that is when the game unraveled.
Of course Sopak in true Sopak fashion smelled blood against MM's rival and put the pedal to the metal. He played his starters the whole game (except for their normal water breaks) and pressed the whole game. It might have made the MM team feel good about themselves to run the score up over 100 but in my opinion it makes them look classless.
 
I heard thru the grapevive.....

Sabrina hit 5 3's in the 4th with the running clock. Campo emptied their bench....MM kept in their starters and continued to press to the end of the game. And the icing on the cake was with MM at 99 pts. and Sopak calling a timeout with 17 secs left so the clock didn't buzz before MM could shoot their FT at the end of the game. Randy Bennett (St. Marys college mens coach) was quoted as saying "I've never seen anything like that in my life".


*******the way it looks to me...reading between the lines.....he HAS to be on his way out at MM and don't give a sh** if he burns any bridges and rubs people wrong....he's heading somewhere else to coach next year....



 
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I heard thru the grapevive.....

Sabrina hit 5 3's in the 4th with the running clock. Campo emptied their bench....MM kept in their starters and continued to press to the end of the game. And the icing on the cake was with MM at 99 pts. and Sopak calling a timeout with 17 secs left so the clock didn't buzz before MM could shoot their FT at the end of the game. Randy Bennett (St. Marys college mens coach) was quoted as saying "I've never seen anything like that in my life".


*******the way it looks to me...reading between the lines.....he HAS to be on his way out at MM and don't give a sh** if he burns any bridges and rubs people wrong....he's heading somewhere else to coach next year....
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that is exactly what happened
Sopass make both his players and himself look bad!
 
MM had 45 at half. Randy Bennet was there? Laying it on like that is poor sportsmanship for sure. Hope it helped the kids get ready for Open, but I can't see it…Thanks for explanation of 4th quarter.
 
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MM had 45 at half. Randy Bennet was there? Laying it on like that is poor sportsmanship for sure. Hope it helped the kids get ready for Open, but I don't see it...
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Even though I agree it may not have been the world's best example of sportsmanship..... the real world unfortunately, is not much kinder. You name the pro player from Jordan to Kobe, Dr. J to Elgin Baylor, Kareem to Chamberlain etc..... they have all loss by 40 or 50 plus points in their lifetime.

Even young kids will have to get use to the ugly realities that this so call perfect life (if that's what your seeking) has to offer. This game's questionable sportsmanship may be big news in Moraga, but there is a lot worse going on in most of our world's than an ugly basketball game. What can we take away from this game?

It's not about what happens to you as much as it is how you respond during and afterwards. So Miramonte kicked Campolindo when they were down. All that shows is the effects that "negative competition" has on our society as a whole. Feeling the need to measure how good you are at the expense of someone else shows how small and insecure we are as a society. Perhaps we need to change the way we view success? Perhaps we need to learn to not allow the scoreboard and others to validate our self worth? Perhaps we need to accept the fact that you will win sometime and lose some time and neither validates your worth as a player or a human being. I heard a few things about the behavior of the home team crowd that was far more troublesome than running the score up on a team. Perhaps we need to create less hateful environments and the fuel probably won't be there to lead to un desirable outcomes?
 
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I like to think, in part, of the game as between kids on the same team, just wearing different uniforms. Crowd behaviors were, I would guess, partly because, when I left after 3Q, the gym was filling w fans for the boys' game to follow. Testosterone matters. We'll never know the answer, but how did the kids feel The Morning After? My hope would be, same as The Morning Before.

Although I'm a spectator, I'm not sure the girls would lose anything by playing in an empty gym.
 
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I like to think, in part, of the game as between kids on the same team, just wearing different uniforms. Crowd behaviors were, I would guess, partly because, when I left after 3Q, the gym was filling w fans for the boys' game to follow. Testosterone matters. We'll never know the answer, but how did the kids feel The Morning After? My hope would be, same as The Morning Before.

Although I'm a spectator, I'm not sure the girls would lose anything by playing in an empty gym.
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"I like to think, in part, of the game as between kids on the same team, just wearing different uniforms." I really like that mkbgdns !

I like to look at it like that too because I see them all as young children working towards becoming young respectable adults. .The whole me against you negative competition nonsense is a big turn off to me. I see competition as a challenge to get better not a way to measure who's best, because too many things have to be considered. Such as coaching, supporting cast, refs, and just the way the game flows that day. I see all the children as part of our community and think that we should be in more support of one another than at odds. But again that is the effects Negative competition has on our society as a whole. At least until someone writes a new book or set of guidelines that changes the focus from negative competition to positive competition. Perhaps if we keep our ears and eyes open the book may already be in print. If not will some one write it.

And with regards to children getting out of hand.......

I think testosterone needs to be put in better check because I personally think adults should run the venues and children should have rules to follow with checks and balances in place. That is why you have certain age limits that permit and prohibit folks of certain ages to certain privileges. There must be adult supervision to keep them little wild bucks in order.
 
Everyone who has played sports at some point gets crushed in a beat down, its inevitable.....and I'm ok with that. I agree there are life lessons to be learned about picking yourself up, hard work, perseverance, not quitting, etc.......

BUT......

what point do you learn or what is being taught when a team CLEARLY HAS SURRENDERED by clearing their bench,
and the other team keeps their starters in the rest of the game to run up a score and annihilate a team.

its like getting into a fist fight and knocking the dude out....some of us would walk away and the fight would be over.....but we all know THAT guy who would continue to kick the knocked out guy even when he is unconscious.

you dont ever want to be THAT guy....
 
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So know we are trying to legislate how other teams should play. What's funny is no one has a problem with it until it happens to you. Outlook18 calls Miramonte and Sopak classless. I'm guessing you are a Campo parent or supporter. I could be wrong but I'm guessing since you are the only one using that term. Was it classless when Campo beat Las Lomas 73-20 and 83-25? Not trying to insult Las Lomas but if you've seen them play, they are a step above CYO basketball. So Campo can hammer Las Lomas but when they are the nail, now it's about sportsmanship. Got it.
 
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So know we are trying to legislate how other teams should play. What's funny is no one has a problem with it until it happens to you. Outlook18 calls Miramonte and Sopak classless. I'm guessing you are a Campo parent or supporter. I could be wrong but I'm guessing since you are the only one using that term. Was it classless when Campo beat Las Lomas 73-20 and 83-25? Not trying to insult Las Lomas but if you've seen them play, they are a step above CYO basketball. So Campo can hammer Las Lomas but when they are the nail, now it's about sportsmanship. Got it.
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I don't think the final score is the issue, but the fact that apparently MM kept their starters in pressing the entire game. If Campo did the same thing to Las Lomas, then yes, neither team showed much sportsmanship. Even the Warriors, when the game is won, sits their starters in the 4th quarter.
 
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At the end of the first half the score was 40-29 (29 is about as many points an any team has scored against MM all season).
At the start of the second half one of the Campo starters went down with a leg injury (and I don't know how she is but I hope it is nothing serious), shortly after that another of the Campo starters fouled out . So now Campo is down 2 starters and later in the third period another Campo starter was in foul trouble so they are left with only 2 starters playing along with bench players. Begin a young team Campo's biggest weakest is their bench; and that is when the game unraveled.

Thanks for your response as that helps bring a little better perspective on why Campo had such a poor 2nd half. They are a young team with out a lot of depth and experience on the bench. Not to take anything away from MM which is obviously the better team.
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