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This post was edited on 1/29 4:46 PM by Rmbr26
The Publics vs Privates or as in the case of the CCS the publics vs the WCAL [incl. SHP also] reminds me of the Dems vs Republicans in that the WCAL coaches had sympathy for coach Walsh as did his mentor coach Ladoucer of DLS, while the CCS public coaches were in unison eagerly in favor of banning a WCAL school from the playoffs [more for us mentality!]
I maintain if a public school under the same circumstances as Serra pulled out of a season ending consolation game the CCS public coaches would largely be in support of that coach & in fact there might not be any ban at all. This is merely politics and will punish the kids who largely had nothing to do with the matter.
I maintain if a public school under the same circumstances as Serra pulled out of a season ending consolation game the CCS public coaches would largely be in support of that coach & in fact there might not be any ban at all. This is merely politics and will punish the kids who largely had nothing to do with the matter.
Rmbr, You might want to remember Salinas faced the same probation and two year ban for their infractions in 2006. Or, Tegan McGrady from Santa Theresa who was suspended from the CCS Soccer playoffs for participating in two U.S. national youth matches that were not approved by the CIF. The CCS lowers the boom on infractions regardless of public sentiment when rules are broken. I doubt if a public school would have fared any better.
2wcats, I do not know what the situation was with Salinas & only that the newspaper article yesterday by John Horgan states "The heavy penalties leveled against Serra by officials of the CCS are unprecedented in the history of the league". Possibly you could tell us what infractions Salinas was penalized for and if the penalty exceeded that which is stated in the CCS by-laws for comparison. As for Tegan McGrady that is an individual situation which is more common rather than punishing an entire team from future competition for years.
At issue is Commish Nancy deciding for herself what she deemed appropriate punishment against an entire HS athletic program.
What good are by-laws stating consequences if they are not followed?
At issue is Commish Nancy deciding for herself what she deemed appropriate punishment against an entire HS athletic program.
What good are by-laws stating consequences if they are not followed?
Rmbr, I didn't trust my memory so I looked up an article on it.
"Central Coast Section officials showed no mercy on the Salinas High School athletic department Friday, slapping it with a list of penalties that will keep the football team out of the playoffs for two years.
In addition to the football program, every Salinas High sport has been banned from the CCS playoffs for one year, effective immediately."... "The one-year ban continues into the fall season, where girls volleyball, water polo, cross country and girls tennis will be excluded from post-season competition. Further, the school's entire athletic program has been placed on probation for one year."
Salinas had a long string of sportsmanship and eligibility issues and paid for them.
My point was the CCS has always come down hard on both programs and individuals for rules infractions regardless of the context. If you look at the long haul, their rulings and punishments really haven't pointed to a bias against one league or school.
Personally I believe there should be some consideration as to the context of an infraction but the CCS has not shown a propensity to take context into consideration over the last 20 or so years. I know it makes for great back an forth on the board but like it or not Nancy's tenure has just shown a very rigid interpretation of the rules.
"Central Coast Section officials showed no mercy on the Salinas High School athletic department Friday, slapping it with a list of penalties that will keep the football team out of the playoffs for two years.
In addition to the football program, every Salinas High sport has been banned from the CCS playoffs for one year, effective immediately."... "The one-year ban continues into the fall season, where girls volleyball, water polo, cross country and girls tennis will be excluded from post-season competition. Further, the school's entire athletic program has been placed on probation for one year."
Salinas had a long string of sportsmanship and eligibility issues and paid for them.
My point was the CCS has always come down hard on both programs and individuals for rules infractions regardless of the context. If you look at the long haul, their rulings and punishments really haven't pointed to a bias against one league or school.
Personally I believe there should be some consideration as to the context of an infraction but the CCS has not shown a propensity to take context into consideration over the last 20 or so years. I know it makes for great back an forth on the board but like it or not Nancy's tenure has just shown a very rigid interpretation of the rules.
There is a different AD now at the school then at that time. You make it sound like current AD which it is not. The Salinas issue that put the program over the top was some basic paperwork omission on student addresses not verified. There were some other issues regarding fan sportsmanship getting out of hand at a few games, but the section really penalized the program in a strict manner. Salinas issues were not based on administration or program malice, but more incompetency as far as having certain process in place. There was a perfect wave of a few instances that would mostly lead to forfeits of games. I can attest that the Salinas High program isn't a transfer factory or program with a coach or AD willfully trying to circumvent rules. The school at the time had one of the most well regarded basketball coaches at the time, and baseball, , and football at the time wasn't a big focus as far as high profile transfers, etc. Many of the student athlete transfers to Salinas High come from privates (e.g., Palma) to the school due to the economy or academics or other districts (no high profile) do to the fact the school is a good school and doesn't have gang issues that others may have. The high schools in general have become better regarding gang issue, but Salinas High didn't have it as much as others in the school, although there has been a shooting off campus a time I remember which resulted in the tragic death of a underclass program player a few years ago.
Today, Salinas High athletic department is squeaky clean (and it wasn't bad before), but the suspension made the school error to the more conservative and put the processes in place. Their issue was more oversight then malice. I think the CCS used the penalty to make a point over and above the altercations. That is one of two penalties (including Serra) I think the CCS went too far.
Today, Salinas High athletic department is squeaky clean (and it wasn't bad before), but the suspension made the school error to the more conservative and put the processes in place. Their issue was more oversight then malice. I think the CCS used the penalty to make a point over and above the altercations. That is one of two penalties (including Serra) I think the CCS went too far.
