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Myles Garrett

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Watch "Myles Garrett Swings Helmet at Mason Rudolph Browns vs Steelers Fight" on YouTube
 
For what it is worth, I predict remainder of this season and the first half of the next. Maybe all of next season. Anything less than the rest of this season is going to be tough to justify. That much is obvious, though not a lock. It won't go over well if it's just two to four games.
 
Parents of young boys who want to play football and watched that Thursday night debacle unfold live and in color must be having lots of second thoughts. Do you really want your kid to participate in a sport that appears to require a police presence, a neurosurgeon, an ambulance and a district attorney? Once again, the NFL highlights all of the reasons its sport has become less than attractive in 2019. The league is going to wind up killing itself.
 
False equivalence. If I insult an old man at the bus stop, he doesn't get to bash my head in with his cane. Both people may be in the wrong, but some wrongs are worse than others.

Lol idk if your example is the best. Had the old man started a fight with you and then proceeded to chase you down I wouldn’t have an issue with you bashing his head in.

Rudolph started a fight and chased the guy down. He then got his head smashed in with an object. Garrett’s actions are inexcusable in sports but Rudolph’s actions led to the results.
 
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One is not appropriate. One is far worse. They are not equivalent, regardless of who started it. The blame is not equal. That's the point.

The "all parties are to be blamed" implies they are equal in nature. They aren't. That is false equivalence.
 
Lol idk if your example is the best. Had the old man started a fight with you and then proceeded to chase you down I wouldn’t have an issue with you bashing his head in.

Rudolph started a fight and chased the guy down. He then got his head smashed in with an object. Garrett’s actions are inexcusable in sports but Rudolph’s actions led to the results.
i knew you got that example from max kellerman. i do get where he is coming from
 
Lol idk if your example is the best. Had the old man started a fight with you and then proceeded to chase you down I wouldn’t have an issue with you bashing his head in.

Rudolph started a fight and chased the guy down. He then got his head smashed in with an object. Garrett’s actions are inexcusable in sports but Rudolph’s actions led to the results.
At the very least Rudolph has no right to be upset. If you try to pull somebody’s helmet off don’t cry if he successfully rips yours off and beats you with it. (Not excusing Garrett’s actions definitely a punk move on his part and the lifetime ban fits the crime) I think Rudolph definitely would have deserved a one game suspension.
 
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Parents of young boys who want to play football and watched that Thursday night debacle unfold live and in color must be having lots of second thoughts. Do you really want your kid to participate in a sport that appears to require a police presence, a neurosurgeon, an ambulance and a district attorney? Once again, the NFL highlights all of the reasons its sport has become less than attractive in 2019. The league is going to wind up killing itself.

And the TV people keep showing this felony over and over and over again. Wonderful. Just what football needs at this delicate juncture.
 
How about Mason Rudolph being a b**** by instigating it all?

obviously the whole situation is unfortunate but all parties are to be blamed.

Yea how dare he get mad about being hit late!

So if someone came and sucker punched you, you got mad and wanted to fight, and then you ended up getting hit with an object you’d be totally cool with being blamed because, “well you shouldn’t have gotten mad when that guy hit you, you brought it on yourself!”?

Anyways, I really don’t like how Garrett is being vilified. I think it was bad, but criminal? I’m sorry, I just don’t think so. Maybe I just have a little more sympathy for guys playing a physical game losing their cool, I dunno. But I also don’t like these trash “well it was REALLY Rudolph’s fault” takes like the one quoted either.
 
Yea how dare he get mad about being hit late!

So if someone came and sucker punched you, you got mad and wanted to fight, and then you ended up getting hit with an object you’d be totally cool with being blamed because, “well you shouldn’t have gotten mad when that guy hit you, you brought it on yourself!”?

Anyways, I really don’t like how Garrett is being vilified. I think it was bad, but criminal? I’m sorry, I just don’t think so. Maybe I just have a little more sympathy for guys playing a physical game losing their cool, I dunno. But I also don’t like these trash “well it was REALLY Rudolph’s fault” takes like the one quoted either.

Oh please. That late hit that wasn’t flagged? Let’s be honest Rudolph threw a temper tantrum because he sucked all night.

it’s laughable comparing a sucker punch to a non flagged hit on a QB in an NFL game.

Rudolph instigated it. I don’t feel bad for the guy for getting hit in the head with a helmet. He chose to go after Garrett. It doesn’t make what Garrett did right but he had every opportunity to back down. Both are to blame for the situation.
 
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Oh please. That late hit that wasn’t flagged? Let’s be honest Rudolph threw a temper tantrum because he sucked all night.

it’s laughable comparing a sucker punch to a non flagged hit on a QB in an NFL game.

Rudolph instigated it. I don’t feel bad for the guy for getting hit in the head with a helmet. He chose to go after Garrett. It doesn’t make what Garrett did right but he had every opportunity to back down. Both are to blame for the situation.

Garbage take
 
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Are you going to add anything to the discussion other then your garbage initial take? If not, just move along.

Let me know when you add anything. Blaming a late hit that wasn’t even a late hit. That’s almost as bad as the people trying to play the “maybe Rudolph called him the n word card”
 
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Yea how dare he get mad about being hit late!

So if someone came and sucker punched you, you got mad and wanted to fight, and then you ended up getting hit with an object you’d be totally cool with being blamed because, “well you shouldn’t have gotten mad when that guy hit you, you brought it on yourself!”?

Anyways, I really don’t like how Garrett is being vilified. I think it was bad, but criminal? I’m sorry, I just don’t think so. Maybe I just have a little more sympathy for guys playing a physical game losing their cool, I dunno. But I also don’t like these trash “well it was REALLY Rudolph’s fault” takes like the one quoted either.
It wasn’t a late hit try watching the play huh? He got him as he threw the ball and was finishing through. No flag on the play (not defending Garrett again punk move using the helmet as a weapon) but Rudolph was for sure deserving of penalty or suspension.
 
All im saying is cause and reaction.
1 thing lead to another. All parties did something wrong.

don’t even try to create equivalence of action. Boiling it down to cause and reaction removes the criminality of Garrett’s actions. He should be banned for good.
 
don’t even try to create equivalence of action. Boiling it down to cause and reaction removes the criminality of Garrett’s actions. He should be banned for good.
Where is the creation of anything being equal?
Did I miss something here? Who said 1 = 1 2b = 2b?
 
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don’t even try to create equivalence of action. Boiling it down to cause and reaction removes the criminality of Garrett’s actions. He should be banned for good.
I get where you’re coming from on Garrett’s actions he should have the book smacked upside his dome BUT no one is saying “equivalence of action” it’s just as negligible to absolve Rudolph of any wrongdoing when he in fact acted unacceptable after a frustrating 4 interception game
 
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