ADVERTISEMENT

Nick Rolovich

Bubba3000

Hall of Famer
Dec 12, 2012
3,698
1,598
113
I'm sure by now you've already heard that Wazzu head coach Nick Rolovich and four of his assistant coaches were fired for refusing to take the COVID vaccine. It's hard for me to fathom willingly giving up a $3 million a year job, the highest paid public employee in the state of Washington. As much as I like Coach Rolo, I don't feel sorry for him. We all make choices in life, I guess this is something he's passionate about.

 
Last edited:
I wonder if he loses any money? I’m not sure that would qualify for cause and I guarantee his lawyers scrubbed it closely. But yeah pretty dumb move. I don’t agree with put i would be shocked if he doesn’t get a settlement
 
I'm sure by now you've already heard that Wazzu head coach Nick Rolovich and four of his assistant coaches were fired for refusing to take the COVID vaccine. It's hard for me to fathom willingly giving up a $3 million a year job,

Not hard for me to fathom at all. Not all people value money or their employment above their principals and beliefs. It’s clear to me this guy and his 4 assistants fall into that category.

Whether I agree with his principals and beliefs or not, I have the utmost respect for those that don’t allow money or employment to get in the way of what they believe in. IMO far too many try walk the middle of the road and/or compromise themselves.

Most these celebrities/athletes that are partaking in activism don’t really put their money where their mouth is. They don’t go all-in because of the cost. Which makes it impossible for me to take them seriously.

Muhammed Ali went all-in. He didn’t care about the cost. His beliefs meant more to him.

While these guys aren’t comparable to Ali in terms of what he was fighting for/against, they are comparable in terms being willing to sacrifice something significant on behalf of their beliefs. I find that refreshing, again, regardless whether or not I agree or disagree with what they are fighting for/against.

Same goes for Kyrie Irving, who apparently has more guts than his fellow NBA’ers who ultimately decided not to walk out on the bubble season. Irving was willing to sit out then for social justice and he’s willing to sit out now over personal choice. That’s more than LeBron James has ever been willing to do. All he ever does is talk on social media and in front of cameras. He’s never willing to pay an actual cost for any of his supposed beliefs.
 
Last edited:
Not hard for me to fathom at all. Not all people value money or their employment above their principals and beliefs. It’s clear to me this guy and his 4 assistants fall into that category.

Whether I agree with his principals and beliefs or not, I have the utmost respect for those that don’t allow money or employment to get in the way of what they believe in. IMO far too many try walk the middle of the road and/or compromise themselves.

Most these celebrities/athletes that are partaking in activism don’t really put their money where their mouth is. They don’t go all-in because of the cost. Which makes it impossible for me to take them seriously.

Muhammed Ali went all-in. He didn’t care about the cost. His beliefs meant more to him.

While these guys aren’t comparable to Ali in terms of what he was fighting for/against, they are comparable in terms being willing to sacrifice something significant on behalf of their beliefs. I find that refreshing, again, regardless whether or not I agree or disagree with what they are fighting for/against.

Same goes for Kyrie Irving, who apparently has more guts than his fellow NBA’ers who ultimately decided not to walk out on the bubble season. Irving was willing to sit out then for social justice and he’s willing to sit out now over personal choice. That’s more than LeBron James has ever been willing to do. All he ever does is talk on social media and in front of cameras. He’s never willing to pay an actual cost for any of his supposed beliefs.
Not a big fan of Lebron James, but he does place millions of dollars into charitable programs including giving back to his hometown.
https://blackeoejournal.com/2019/01/lebron-james-five-humongous-charitable-donations/
 
Not hard for me to fathom at all. Not all people value money or their employment above their principals and beliefs. It’s clear to me this guy and his 4 assistants fall into that category.

Whether I agree with his principals and beliefs or not, I have the utmost respect for those that don’t allow money or employment to get in the way of what they believe in. IMO far too many try walk the middle of the road and/or compromise themselves.

Most these celebrities/athletes that are partaking in activism don’t really put their money where their mouth is. They don’t go all-in because of the cost. Which makes it impossible for me to take them seriously.

Muhammed Ali went all-in. He didn’t care about the cost. His beliefs meant more to him.

While these guys aren’t comparable to Ali in terms of what he was fighting for/against, they are comparable in terms being willing to sacrifice something significant on behalf of their beliefs. I find that refreshing, again, regardless whether or not I agree or disagree with what they are fighting for/against.

Same goes for Kyrie Irving, who apparently has more guts than his fellow NBA’ers who ultimately decided not to walk out on the bubble season. Irving was willing to sit out then for social justice and he’s willing to sit out now over personal choice. That’s more than LeBron James has ever been willing to do. All he ever does is talk on social media and in front of cameras. He’s never willing to pay an actual cost for any of his supposed beliefs.
lebron has given more money than you, i and all on this website will make in a lifetime. he has zero to do with kyrie. other than they dismantled the supposedly greatest team ever. it is a choice right? so 98% of the league decided they wanted to continue their profession. i think kyrie might be the odd man out here.
 
Not hard for me to fathom at all. Not all people value money or their employment above their principals and beliefs. It’s clear to me this guy and his 4 assistants fall into that category.

Whether I agree with his principals and beliefs or not, I have the utmost respect for those that don’t allow money or employment to get in the way of what they believe in. IMO far too many try walk the middle of the road and/or compromise themselves.

Most these celebrities/athletes that are partaking in activism don’t really put their money where their mouth is. They don’t go all-in because of the cost. Which makes it impossible for me to take them seriously.

Muhammed Ali went all-in. He didn’t care about the cost. His beliefs meant more to him.

While these guys aren’t comparable to Ali in terms of what he was fighting for/against, they are comparable in terms being willing to sacrifice something significant on behalf of their beliefs. I find that refreshing, again, regardless whether or not I agree or disagree with what they are fighting for/against.

Same goes for Kyrie Irving, who apparently has more guts than his fellow NBA’ers who ultimately decided not to walk out on the bubble season. Irving was willing to sit out then for social justice and he’s willing to sit out now over personal choice. That’s more than LeBron James has ever been willing to do. All he ever does is talk on social media and in front of cameras. He’s never willing to pay an actual cost for any of his supposed beliefs.
Kyrie already made his money. He has Nike money on top of that. Missing out on $170M more doesnt hurt when you already made $150M+. These guys have more money than they know what to do with it.
 
Not hard for me to fathom at all. Not all people value money or their employment above their principals and beliefs. It’s clear to me this guy and his 4 assistants fall into that category.

Whether I agree with his principals and beliefs or not, I have the utmost respect for those that don’t allow money or employment to get in the way of what they believe in. IMO far too many try walk the middle of the road and/or compromise themselves.

Most these celebrities/athletes that are partaking in activism don’t really put their money where their mouth is. They don’t go all-in because of the cost. Which makes it impossible for me to take them seriously.

Muhammed Ali went all-in. He didn’t care about the cost. His beliefs meant more to him.

While these guys aren’t comparable to Ali in terms of what he was fighting for/against, they are comparable in terms being willing to sacrifice something significant on behalf of their beliefs. I find that refreshing, again, regardless whether or not I agree or disagree with what they are fighting for/against.

Same goes for Kyrie Irving, who apparently has more guts than his fellow NBA’ers who ultimately decided not to walk out on the bubble season. Irving was willing to sit out then for social justice and he’s willing to sit out now over personal choice. That’s more than LeBron James has ever been willing to do. All he ever does is talk on social media and in front of cameras. He’s never willing to pay an actual cost for any of his supposed beliefs.
Rolovich obviously has a agent. My take is the agent has already told him come end of the season plenty of jobs will be open at places you will not have a mandate in place. Once you get into a 3mil salary range, a few other schools nationwide will give you a shot
 
  • Like
Reactions: ThunderRam
Rolovich obviously has a agent. My take is the agent has already told him come end of the season plenty of jobs will be open at places you will not have a mandate in place. Once you get into a 3mil salary range, a few other schools nationwide will give you a shot
but where and who? he isnt that great and he didnt do anything at washington st. sure he will get another job but will an AD want to take on a radical coach who is 33-33? any upper echelon school wont need him. he will do wonders at south dakota or montana tech i imagine
 
  • Like
Reactions: aztecpadre
Not a big fan of Lebron James, but he does place millions of dollars into charitable programs including giving back to his hometown.
https://blackeoejournal.com/2019/01/lebron-james-five-humongous-charitable-donations/

That’s great. But he wasn’t willing to forgo paychecks nor a chance to play a short season for a title to prove how important social justice really was to him. You know, actually try to do something that could inspire others to do the same and actually have some sort of impact.

But it’s cool that he gives money to charity instead of doing something far more impactful. He’ll just continue to complain about it on tv and social media instead.

Good, great, grand, wonderful.
 
I'm sure by now you've already heard that Wazzu head coach Nick Rolovich and four of his assistant coaches were fired for refusing to take the COVID vaccine. It's hard for me to fathom willingly giving up a $3 million a year job, the highest paid public employee in the state of Washington. As much as I like Coach Rolo, I don't feel sorry for him. We all make choices in life, I guess this is something he's passionate about.

I completely respect him and anyone who pushes back on pressure that is now threatening employment. Good for him and anyone who is saying no.
 
Kyrie already made his money. He has Nike money on top of that. Missing out on $170M more doesnt hurt when you already made $150M+. These guys have more money than they know what to do with it.

While what you say here is true, it’s still uncommon for these guys to forgo more money in the name of principals and beliefs.

Best examples of this are the players not following through with sitting out the bubble season in the wake of the Jacob Blake killing and their willingness to speak out about how terrible their own country is (allegedly) while remaining completely silent re: China and the NBA’s continued involvement there.

Their shoes, uniforms, etc. are often made using forced labor, not to mention all the other atrocities and oppression that China stands for yet the NBA and it’s players say and do nothing about it.

Ever since China suspended business dealings with Daryl Morey and the Houston Rockets over his Hong Kong democracy tweets, the NBA has gone eerily silent about worse oppression there than ever goes on in their own backyard. Why? Because they don’t want to lose that audience and the Billions of dollars that comes along with it.

Again, dollars trumping principals and beliefs when the cost is too high. Even though many of them already have more than they need.

Hypocrites.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: PatCarrillo
While what you say here is true, it’s still uncommon for these guys to forgo more money in the name of principals and beliefs.

Best examples of this are the players not following through with sitting out the bubble season in the wake of the Jacob Blake killing and their willingness to speak out about how terrible their own country is (allegedly) while remaining completely silent re: China and the NBA’s continued involvement there.

Their shoes, uniforms, etc. are often made using forced labor, not to mention all the other atrocities and oppression that China stands for yet the NBA and it’s players say and do nothing about it.

Ever since China suspended business dealings with Daryl Morey and the Houston Rockets over his Hong Kong democracy tweets, the NBA has gone eerily silent about worse oppression there than ever goes on in their own backyard. Why? Because they don’t want to lose that audience and the Billions of dollars that comes along with it.

Again, dollars trumping principals and beliefs when the cost is too high.

Hypocrites.
It’s not just star athletes being hypocrites trumping principals and beliefs for the almighty dollar. Just saying.
 
While I’m at it, I’ll also give a shout out to Dave Chappelle who clearly is taking a stance on free speech, among other things, and clearly thought out the delivery of his current NetFlix stand-up special.

While there are many opinions I disagree with Dave and Kyrie about, I wish we had more people willing to do what they are doing.
 
It’s not just star athletes being hypocrites trumping principals and beliefs for the almighty dollar. Just saying.

Of course it isn’t. But they are clearly the most visible. Celebrities and politicians in general. And their actions or inactions have much more impact than everyone else.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ArmchairGOAT
Let me just add one more thing to defend Kyrie’s decision to support those that aren’t well off enough to make the same choice he’s making.

Not one NBA player has died or even had a close call despite numerous players contracting the virus in the early stages. Out of, what, 450-500 total players?

Meanwhile at least one player, Brandon Goodwin, developed a respiratory condition after receiving the vaccination that ended his season and resulted in bloodclots.

So even though side effect are supposed to be rare, they are seemingly more common in young people, especially elite athletes, than serious ill-ness or death from covid.

Given that science is showing that the vaccinated and unvaccinated can both contract and spread the virus, it only makes sense to allow people to make their own health decisions.

I applaud Kyrie Irving for lending a voice to those that don’t have one and actually sacrificing something to do it. He’s far more courageous than most of his peers. Same goes for these college coaches.
 
Last edited:
Rolovich obviously has a agent. My take is the agent has already told him come end of the season plenty of jobs will be open at places you will not have a mandate in place. Once you get into a 3mil salary range, a few other schools nationwide will give you a shot
Because coaches are role models to their players especially head coaches, I don’t blame the university for doing what they did and I’m a big fan of Nick Rolovich. I’m not saying this is the case with Rolovich but I think there’s a segment of the population that doesn’t really have a problem with vaccinations, they simply don’t want to be told what to do.
 
Last edited:
Let me just add one more thing to defend Kyrie’s decision to support those that aren’t well off enough to make the same choice he’s making.

Not one NBA player has died or even had a close call despite numerous players contracting the virus in the early stages. Out of, what, 450-500 total players?

Meanwhile at least one player, Brandon Goodwin, developed a respiratory condition after receiving the vaccination that ended his season and resulted in bloodclots.

So even though side effect are supposed to be rare, they are seemingly more common in young people, especially elite athletes, than serious ill-ness or death from covid.

Given that science is showing that the vaccinated and unvaccinated can both contract and spread the virus, it only makes sense to allow people to make their own health decisions.

I applaud Kyrie Irving for lending a voice to those that don’t have one and actually sacrificing something to do it. He’s far more courageous than most of his peers. Same goes for these college coaches.

Ohh. It is so easy to come on a posting board, and puff up your chest.
You have NO idea what is going on with these people, except what you get
second or third hand. Me thinks you protest to much..

Here's wishing you great football.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sarahmoose2
Kyrie already made his money. He has Nike money on top of that. Missing out on $170M more doesnt hurt when you already made $150M+. These guys have more money than they know what to do with it.
So his morals and principles mean nothing to you. Do you think he’s the first athlete to give up fortune for principles and morals. GTFOH. Go do some research.
 
That’s great. But he wasn’t willing to forgo paychecks nor a chance to play a short season for a title to prove how important social justice really was to him. You know, actually try to do something that could inspire others to do the same and actually have some sort of impact.

But it’s cool that he gives money to charity instead of doing something far more impactful. He’ll just continue to complain about it on tv and social media instead.

Good, great, grand, wonderful.
I'll suscribe to that fishwrap asap. Im sure its not one-sided
 
Let me just add one more thing to defend Kyrie’s decision to support those that aren’t well off enough to make the same choice he’s making.

Not one NBA player has died or even had a close call despite numerous players contracting the virus in the early stages. Out of, what, 450-500 total players?

Meanwhile at least one player, Brandon Goodwin, developed a respiratory condition after receiving the vaccination that ended his season and resulted in bloodclots.

So even though side effect are supposed to be rare, they are seemingly more common in young people, especially elite athletes, than serious ill-ness or death from covid.

Given that science is showing that the vaccinated and unvaccinated can both contract and spread the virus, it only makes sense to allow people to make their own health decisions.

I applaud Kyrie Irving for lending a voice to those that don’t have one and actually sacrificing something to do it. He’s far more courageous than most of his peers. Same goes for these college coaches.
Maybe you should read up on Jason Taytum and what he dealt with using inhalers before each game for a good 3-4 months. To this day he says his breathing is not the same. He is a young elite athlete. So sure everyone has a choice, and let’s put one thing in perspective as well. We are speaking about elite mega millionaires here. We don’t have the same healthcare as they do have to the drugs available at the time as easy as they did as well.
 
Last edited:
but where and who? he isnt that great and he didnt do anything at washington st. sure he will get another job but will an AD want to take on a radical coach who is 33-33? any upper echelon school wont need him. he will do wonders at south dakota or montana tech i imagine
Nick started at City College in San Francisco. As a player. He came up thru the ranks as a coach. He is at WSU. Well should I say was. If he could get to WSU he can get a multi million dollar contract in some state that doesn’t fall for a mandate. Hell the lady who bought my house in SF, her dad was getting paid almost 3mil at Maryland and that was years ago.
 
On stories like this, I try to give the person making the choice the benefit of the doubt that the choice is a honest one and not one to build a brand/self-serving. I understand that is not always the case (the China story is a good example of when this happens IMO), but it can be hard to determine what the motivation is without knowing the person.

Also, I think not everyone feels extreme about every situation and thus can choose to make a stand in a less extreme way. It is not fair to judge someone's stand through our own lense, which I think is happening a ton with this story about Nick and Kyrie and others, but those are the two most high profile right now
 
On stories like this, I try to give the person making the choice the benefit of the doubt that the choice is a honest one and not one to build a brand/self-serving. I understand that is not always the case (the China story is a good example of when this happens IMO), but it can be hard to determine what the motivation is without knowing the person.

Also, I think not everyone feels extreme about every situation and thus can choose to make a stand in a less extreme way. It is not fair to judge someone's stand through our own lense, which I think is happening a ton with this story about Nick and Kyrie and others, but those are the two most high profile right now
Well put, Streak.
 
On stories like this, I try to give the person making the choice the benefit of the doubt that the choice is a honest one and not one to build a brand/self-serving. I understand that is not always the case (the China story is a good example of when this happens IMO), but it can be hard to determine what the motivation is without knowing the person.

Also, I think not everyone feels extreme about every situation and thus can choose to make a stand in a less extreme way. It is not fair to judge someone's stand through our own lense, which I think is happening a ton with this story about Nick and Kyrie and others, but those are the two most high profile right now
Everything is made political today. I am a cheap skate. I go to the beauty college near my home. I sat listening to some older ladies saying just that! I say older, I am 66. And these ladies made a lot of sense!
 
Let me just add one more thing to defend Kyrie’s decision to support those that aren’t well off enough to make the same choice he’s making.

Not one NBA player has died or even had a close call despite numerous players contracting the virus in the early stages. Out of, what, 450-500 total players?

Meanwhile at least one player, Brandon Goodwin, developed a respiratory condition after receiving the vaccination that ended his season and resulted in bloodclots.

So even though side effect are supposed to be rare, they are seemingly more common in young people, especially elite athletes, than serious ill-ness or death from covid.

Given that science is showing that the vaccinated and unvaccinated can both contract and spread the virus, it only makes sense to allow people to make their own health decisions.

I applaud Kyrie Irving for lending a voice to those that don’t have one and actually sacrificing something to do it. He’s far more courageous than most of his peers. Same goes for these college coaches.
karl anthony towns lost both his parents to covid. so as it has been said so many times, it is the the others and others and others and others and others and you get it. or maybe you dont. kyrie is a multi millionaire many times over. he can walk away and know his kids, kids, kids, kids will not have to work. he doesnt speak for anyone on this board. my government agency said we need the vaccine or else. i signed up, because boa, chase, citi and fanny mae dont care about my feelings or principles they care about their principal.
 
While what you say here is true, it’s still uncommon for these guys to forgo more money in the name of principals and beliefs.

Best examples of this are the players not following through with sitting out the bubble season in the wake of the Jacob Blake killing and their willingness to speak out about how terrible their own country is (allegedly) while remaining completely silent re: China and the NBA’s continued involvement there.

Their shoes, uniforms, etc. are often made using forced labor, not to mention all the other atrocities and oppression that China stands for yet the NBA and it’s players say and do nothing about it.

Ever since China suspended business dealings with Daryl Morey and the Houston Rockets over his Hong Kong democracy tweets, the NBA has gone eerily silent about worse oppression there than ever goes on in their own backyard. Why? Because they don’t want to lose that audience and the Billions of dollars that comes along with it.

Again, dollars trumping principals and beliefs when the cost is too high. Even though many of them already have more than they need.

Hypocrites.
that thing you are typing on posting pictures on tik tok was made in china. just saying.
 
Everything is made political today. I am a cheap skate. I go to the beauty college near my home. I sat listening to some older ladies saying just that! I say older, I am 66. And these ladies made a lot of sense!
Nowadays it seems so many are thin skinned and easily butt hurt. So glad my Dad didn't have to witness this BS
 
That’s great. But he wasn’t willing to forgo paychecks nor a chance to play a short season for a title to prove how important social justice really was to him. You know, actually try to do something that could inspire others to do the same and actually have some sort of impact.

But it’s cool that he gives money to charity instead of doing something far more impactful. He’ll just continue to complain about it on tv and social media instead.

Good, great, grand, wonderful.
And always remember, accountants will usually advise these wealthy folks to donate to charity for tax purposes, not to mention PR purposes. LeBron James, by the way, is a billionaire. Not bad for a guy who never went to college. He is a very savvy businessman. As for his "activism," well, it is what it is. Let's just leave it at that.
 
Maybe you should read up on Jason Taytum and what he dealt with using inhalers before each game for a good 3-4 months. To this day he says his breathing is not the same. He is a young elite athlete. So sure everyone has a choice, and let’s put one thing in perspective as well. We are speaking about elite mega millionaires here. We don’t have the same healthcare as they do have to the drugs available at the time as easy as they did as well.

That’s not as severe as what Brandon Goodwin has gone through. Tatum didn’t miss the season or develop blood clots. None of the other players exposed to the virus early on have developed complications as serious as Goodwin.

I don’t need to read up on anything. I’m already aware. Young, healthy people on the whole are not at serious risk from this virus. However young people have been more at risk than any other age group of experiencing side effects from vaccination. For those reasons and also because this vax hasn’t gone through the typical 5-12 year trial period to discover longer term effects, this should continue to be a personal choice,

What’s even sillier is only requiring negative tests from the unvaccinated when the vaccinated can catch and spread as well. The powers that be just don’t have the first damned clue.
 
That’s not as severe as what Brandon Goodwin has gone through. Tatum didn’t miss the season or develop blood clots. None of the other players exposed to the virus early on have developed complications as serious as Goodwin.

I don’t need to read up on anything. I’m already aware. Young, healthy people on the whole are not at serious risk from this virus. However young people have been more at risk than any other age group of experiencing side effects from vaccination. For those reasons and also because this vax hasn’t gone through the typical 5-12 year trial period to discover longer term effects, this should continue to be a personal choice,

What’s even sillier is only requiring negative tests from the unvaccinated when the vaccinated can catch and spread as well. The powers that be just don’t have the first damned clue.
any risk is a risk. AND IT IS NOT THEM BUT THE PEOPLE THEY PASS IT TO. i mean we are not really at risk of dying if we dont wear a seat belt but we do
 
  • Like
Reactions: MC415
That’s not as severe as what Brandon Goodwin has gone through. Tatum didn’t miss the season or develop blood clots. None of the other players exposed to the virus early on have developed complications as serious as Goodwin.

I don’t need to read up on anything. I’m already aware. Young, healthy people on the whole are not at serious risk from this virus. However young people have been more at risk than any other age group of experiencing side effects from vaccination. For those reasons and also because this vax hasn’t gone through the typical 5-12 year trial period to discover longer term effects, this should continue to be a personal choice,

What’s even sillier is only requiring negative tests from the unvaccinated when the vaccinated can catch and spread as well. The powers that be just don’t have the first damned clue.
Thunder I appreciate your response but when the all due respect my wife is a respiratory therapist. And let me tell you why Taytum’s issue should be a huge concern. HE IS A NBA ATHLETE. His job calls for him to travel the country, run up and down the floor and be physically fit while getting bashed going down the lane. So if this virus does what it did to Jason Taytum, imagine the damage it has done to people like myself who sit at desks. Who don’t run and jump at work. The effects of this will become very relative for many years to come. Cause I for one don’t have a job that calls for me to be in elite shape. I am a normal joe blow running a company and sitting at a desk daily
 
Sorry Streak. Didn’t know putting politicians names in posts = deletion.

Rolovich cited religious reasons not to get vaccinated while never revealing any religious affiliation nor how/where/what/whom religion or advice was given him. Selfish? Transparent?Pious?!

Here’s an abridged version of why people who aren’t on the front lines (or simply are too selfish to care about humans not in their immediate circle) easily and ignorantly dismiss why vaccines are important. There are 700,000 reasons. Here are a few lenses to peer into…



And

 
Last edited:
@30.
Down I5 from WA Oregon Health finds 97% of ICU Covid patients are unvaccinated.
Don’t read up if you want. But any plan for a “5-12 year trial period” to find “long term effects” equivocates to eliminating the complete population of the State of Oregon up to ALL of CA/WA/OR. Should the “powers that be” make that their plan?
 
Last edited:
Thunder I appreciate your response but when the all due respect my wife is a respiratory therapist. And let me tell you why Taytum’s issue should be a huge concern. HE IS A NBA ATHLETE. His job calls for him to travel the country, run up and down the floor and be physically fit while getting bashed going down the lane. So if this virus does what it did to Jason Taytum, imagine the damage it has done to people like myself who sit at desks. Who don’t run and jump at work. The effects of this will become very relative for many years to come. Cause I for one don’t have a job that calls for me to be in elite shape. I am a normal joe blow running a company and sitting at a desk daily

Don’t go down this path with me. My wife is in clinical trials. And has been a nurse in numerous other fields throughout her long career. Numerous family members are in the medical field including a General Surgeon. I’m far from uneducated about all this.

The points I made from the beginning are valid and still stand.
I’ll leave it at that. Carry on.
 
Last edited:
@30.
Down I5 from WA Oregon Health finds 97% of ICU Covid patients are unvaccinated.
Don’t read up if you want. But any plan for a “5-12 year trial period” to find “long term effects” equivocates to eliminating the complete population of the State of Oregon up to ALL of CA/WA/OR. Should the “powers that be” make that their plan?

This is as asinine a response as I’ve seen here. Well done.
 
Don’t go down this path with me. My wife is in clinical trials. And has been a nurse in numerous other fields throughout her long career. Numerous family members are in the medical field including a General Surgeon. I’m far from uneducated about all this.

The points I made from the beginning are valid and still stand.
I’ll leave it at that. Carry on.
no, your relatives are educated on it. you just participate in the conversation.
 
@30.
Down I5 from WA Oregon Health finds 97% of ICU Covid patients are unvaccinated.
Don’t read up if you want. But any plan for a “5-12 year trial period” to find “long term effects” equivocates to eliminating the complete population of the State of Oregon up to ALL of CA/WA/OR. Should the “powers that be” make that their
no, your relatives are educated on it. you just participate in the conversation.
Ankle people can truly go back and forth on this. Fact is when a nba athlete or other athletes who are in elite shape have issues after COVID, the world better wake up and realize if you are not working a physical job, which lets be honest most don’t, those that had COVID and never knew or knew have possible damage that may never surface until they age. My wife has a co worker, on the side she was a trainer at UFC gym. Every shift she would run up three flights of stairs and report to duty. She can no longer do that nor train, and she had it over a year ago. So for me I would hate to see the long term effects on young athletes that may appear as they age. That’s the sad part in all of this to me. I mean hell wasn’t it ironic when the NBA started letting fans back in the stands. And packed them in like sardines yet the expensive seats right behind the players were removed rows back. The billionaire owners ain’t stupid, and they damn well knew to protect their investments on the floor
 
This is as asinine a response as I’ve seen here. Well done.
Well thank you. I try to please. Being up there on the pedestal with Patsy…humbly honored by the recognition. 😊

As if a family member’s profession validates opinions. It gets a deserved response.

@29- “Young people are more at risk at developing side effects.”

Mild, moderate severe risks? How much more? Twice, thrice, 10%? If you’re going to state a “fact”, include it’s comparative relevance or it means NOTHING. What kind of symptom? Chills? Joint sore? And those justify making this a “personal choice?”

Rolovich lawyered up. But maybe that’s irrelevant. (Well, not in my family.)

Finally, he says, it’s his Catholic beliefs:


grasping…..
 
Last edited:
ADVERTISEMENT

Latest posts

ADVERTISEMENT