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There is no way to tell at this point. An entirely new NorCal system of evaluation and placement will be in effect. The new buzzphrase is "competitive equity." So a strong Division 5 team by enrollment could be placed in a higher division, based on CIF criteria. Conversely, a weak Division I team might well be placed in a lower division by enrollment. The Open Division won't change. It will be for the best of the best only, regardless of enrollment. In theory, Division V could wind up being very weak, Division I very strong and so forth since the NorCal seeding group should tend in that direction by definition. It could make some divisions nearly unwatchable if very few strong, proven entities are seeded into them. However, I do hope that does not come to pass. But it well could.
One major issue is the same committee is doing boys and girls, north and south, divisions I through VI. That's 400 teams to seed in a single day, and there are no set criteria.
They will start with the Open, but by the time they get to the lower divisions, fatigue will have set in. If they want to be done by 6 p.m., and start at 8 a.m., they can talk about each team for 1.5 minutes (not including general discussion, criteria, game times, locations, etc.).
They will start with the Open, but by the time they get to the lower divisions, fatigue will have set in. If they want to be done by 6 p.m., and start at 8 a.m., they can talk about each team for 1.5 minutes (not including general discussion, criteria, game times, locations, etc.).
Those committees should be separate. As you have noted in the past, too many CIF and section officials have little or no knowledge of the female side.
North and South? So the same poeple seeding the boys teams in SoCal will be seeding the girls teams in NorCal? Scary.
A very preliminary early NorCal seeding has already been performed. It's called the West Coast Jamboree in which 160 teams (the overwhelming majority are NorCal entities) participate in late December. Clay Kallam and Harold Abend handle the placement of teams in 20 brackets that are intended to even out the competition. So these two fellows have a distinct clue as to the relative strengths and weaknesses of these teams. Things change, of course, as the season proceeds. But the WCJ is a starting point in many ways. Input from Kallam and Abend at the NorCal seeding exercise, in theory, would make a lot of sense. After all, this is what they do almost year-round.
Good point Colhenry!! Clay and Harold know the Girls teams, involving them in this seeding excercise makes a lot of sense. Good call Col!!!!!!!
Thanks, but no thanks ...
That's a thankless job, and an impossible one, really. For example, I have very little feel for Southern California or the Central Section, and would be pretty much clueless as to the relative merits of Sierra Canyon and Etiwanda, just to name one comparison.
And of course, doing it all in one day just makes it worse.
I'll stick to the Jamboree -- it takes us literally weeks to do our 160 teams, and the brackets change up to the last minute. I can't imagine doing 400 teams under that time pressure.
That's a thankless job, and an impossible one, really. For example, I have very little feel for Southern California or the Central Section, and would be pretty much clueless as to the relative merits of Sierra Canyon and Etiwanda, just to name one comparison.
And of course, doing it all in one day just makes it worse.
I'll stick to the Jamboree -- it takes us literally weeks to do our 160 teams, and the brackets change up to the last minute. I can't imagine doing 400 teams under that time pressure.
the Guru would gladly volunteer to be on the Nothern Calif Girls seeding committee as I have no life and have watched WAY too many girls games this year.
Could you and Harold Abend at least quietly slip your evaluations and recommendations to someone on the committee before the meeting?
