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I was just looking over Maxpreps and their rankings and I spotted SJND and all their forfeits and 1 win and all I could think of is WOW!!! Dont forget that the last NCS OPEN champ was SJND. How hard and fast did that program crash? The closest comparison I can think of is when SMU football got the death penalty back in the day to whats happened at SJND.

The administration at SJND really screwed the pooch on this one.
 
Alexis Gray Lawson went there, and then directly to Pres, who is having their worst season maybe ever.. Not a good look from either school who had 2 solid coaches/program leaders in Hipp and Wade..
 
the boys at SJND only have 4 wins this year....they are at least competitive in their games, but not winning.
 
I was just looking over Maxpreps and their rankings and I spotted SJND and all their forfeits and 1 win and all I could think of is WOW!!! Dont forget that the last NCS OPEN champ was SJND. How hard and fast did that program crash? The closest comparison I can think of is when SMU football got the death penalty back in the day to whats happened at SJND.

The administration at SJND really screwed the pooch on this one.
And to see 1 win SJND playing against 5-18 Berkeley last night, it’s just not right. 2 of the more storied girls’ programs in the NCS squaring off in a meaningless game.
 
What we're really talking about here is administrative support.

Private schools sometimes view athletics as a helpful marketing tool, or are willing to invest some support for a quality coach. But if there's a waiting list, privates often decide to avoid being labeled "sports schools," preferring to be thought of as academic powerhouses -- and then the athletic support withers away.

For SJND, Shawn Hipol was doing what he was hired to do -- win games, just like Don Lippi did on the boys' side. But when SJND landed in the BCL-West, so it could affiliate itself with academic stalwart College Prep, and Head-Royce, Bentley and Athenian, a change of heart occurred. Now Hipol's winning ways were an embarrassment, and so they forced him out.

It was really unfair to Hipol and the basketball players, and certainly a smoother transition would have been easy to arrange. And now SJND is horrid in basketball, though whether that really matters to the administration is unclear.

As for Presentation, as long as Wade was there, there were enough good players to compete in the wider world, if not with Mitty, but the air went out of the balloon very quickly when he left. Pres does need to leave the WCAL, though I don't know it works in that section. (Can it happen in one year?)

Over time, I would expect to see somewhat less emphasis on sports at private and parochial schools, as there's no need to market if people are clamoring to get out of public schools and into privates. Some privates will stick with it, of course, as it's wired into their DNA, but others may take a step back.
 
I was just looking over Maxpreps and their rankings and I spotted SJND and all their forfeits and 1 win and all I could think of is WOW!!! Dont forget that the last NCS OPEN champ was SJND. How hard and fast did that program crash? The closest comparison I can think of is when SMU football got the death penalty back in the day to whats happened at SJND.

The administration at SJND really screwed the pooch on this one.
Brookside Christian girls basketball in SJS. Didn’t they have a big drop?
 
Both programs with proven coaches, need the same if not more energy coming in. Wade got the most out of what he was given. Always heart over height in many years, and definitely competed each season. WCAL is no joke, and having a little bit of knowledge of league on the girls side is a huge advantage. Doesn't look like a quick fix either.
 
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Can’t be a power soon running from competition.
well him and Kelly are cut from the same cloth so no surprise.. but how so this year? I have only seen max preps scores, and nothing more. Doesn't look like a cupcake schedule on paper. Or am I wrong?
 
Haters gonna hate ...
Not in the top division of the TOC and you weren't going to be in the top bracket at YOUR OWN TOURNAMENT until practically forced due to covid... that's not hate that is a fact.
 
Actually I was talking about Shawn Hipol ... the antipathy for Kelly goes without saying. Why suddenly blast Shawn? Makes little sense to me to degrade a guy who's done nothing but good for girls' basketball.
 
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Actually I was talking about Shawn Hipol ... the antipathy for Kelly goes without saying. Why suddenly blast Shawn? Makes little sense to me to degrade a guy who's done nothing but good for girls' basketball.
Ok fair enough.. I was asking the same. I don't know how he is supposed to schedule differently in his first year there..
 
Shawn is at Alameda and doing well. Expect Alameda to be a power soon ...

A power? Brad Thomas had great program back in the day but they were never ever a powerhouse. The problem (unlike Encinal and SJND) with Alameda is that their school ONLY enrolls kids from Alameda, and there are boundaries that come along with that. It think they have the potential to be very good but far from a power.
 
well him and Kelly are cut from the same cloth so no surprise.. but how so this year? I have only seen max preps scores, and nothing more. Doesn't look like a cupcake schedule on paper. Or am I wrong?
He was slated to play a particular opponent and his team caught “COVID” and for whatever reason did want to make the game up.
 
Salesian missed some games. So did a bunch of other schools. Are they all ducking, or could it be some have COVID?

Really, though, why the nastiness towards Shawn and Alameda? It just seems unwarranted.
 
The covid
in early January, during the peak of OMICRON, some schools like Alameda were asked to focus only on missed league games for makeup the remainder of the season.
that's what the NBL tried to do also...the schools were asked to attempt to makeup missed league games (on off dates) before playing any other games.
 
Alameda was also shut down completely over Christmas. Not only no games, but no practices.
 
we been over this. someone needed to run the snack bar
Now this is funny, borderline hilarious. Clay said “ it would be impossible to play in another division and host games at home. Impossible”. I sure hope spectators didn’t have to spend 90 minutes in that awful gym at Carondelet with no Cheetos or Funyuns or god forbid no Capri Sun Fruit Punch because of the terrific burden it shouldered as a result of Carondelet not playing in their gym during the tournament. It would be impossible ! I can’t even imagine the working conditions those poor people endured.
Clay, you are a cartoon character and hard to take seriously.
as for shawn, he’s a good man. He cares for the girls, puts himself out there, wears gigantic shorts and looks hip. His biggest handicap though is the company he keeps. Dogs have fleas, you lay around with dogs you get their fleas .
only 10 months left before WCJ starts again. We are all praying for a strong supply of red vines, skittles and Kit Kat bars in the event that the cal stars minions ( I stole that line) have to endure the agony of having to try to pull off the impossible once again!
Good luck today to our JL girls. Tough one against MCHS in an hour…
 
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Salesian missed some games. So did a bunch of other schools. Are they all ducking, or could it be some have COVID?

Really, though, why the nastiness towards Shawn and Alameda? It just seems unwarranted.
Unfortunately, any coach associated with Cal Stars will be accused of recruiting and thus, bullseye on their back. especially if they become good in a hurry...
 
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Alameda was also shut down completely over Christmas. Not only no games, but no practices.
Also, it seems like the administration (district level) is not too concerned with athletics as you pointed out with them not being able to participate in anything over christmas. It's too bad cause they have a history of success at that school
 
What we're really talking about here is administrative support.

Private schools sometimes view athletics as a helpful marketing tool, or are willing to invest some support for a quality coach. But if there's a waiting list, privates often decide to avoid being labeled "sports schools," preferring to be thought of as academic powerhouses -- and then the athletic support withers away.

For SJND, Shawn Hipol was doing what he was hired to do -- win games, just like Don Lippi did on the boys' side. But when SJND landed in the BCL-West, so it could affiliate itself with academic stalwart College Prep, and Head-Royce, Bentley and Athenian, a change of heart occurred. Now Hipol's winning ways were an embarrassment, and so they forced him out.

It was really unfair to Hipol and the basketball players, and certainly a smoother transition would have been easy to arrange. And now SJND is horrid in basketball, though whether that really matters to the administration is unclear.

As for Presentation, as long as Wade was there, there were enough good players to compete in the wider world, if not with Mitty, but the air went out of the balloon very quickly when he left. Pres does need to leave the WCAL, though I don't know it works in that section. (Can it happen in one year?)

Over time, I would expect to see somewhat less emphasis on sports at private and parochial schools, as there's no need to market if people are clamoring to get out of public schools and into privates. Some privates will stick with it, of course, as it's wired into their DNA, but others may take a step back.
Clay you are just as bad as CNN. What a disingenuous self serving smoke screen of a post.

“What we’re really talking about here is administrative support.”

All the while Clay rubs his greedy little hands knowing SJND’s best player in now at his school.
 
Now this is funny, borderline hilarious. Clay said “ it would be impossible to play in another division and host games at home. Impossible”. I sure hope spectators didn’t have to spend 90 minutes in that awful gym at Carondelet with no Cheetos or Funyuns or god forbid no Capri Sun Fruit Punch because of the terrific burden it shouldered as a result of Carondelet not playing in their gym during the tournament. It would be impossible ! I can’t even imagine the working conditions those poor people endured.
Clay, you are a cartoon character and hard to take seriously.
as for shawn, he’s a good man. He cares for the girls, puts himself out there, wears gigantic shorts and looks hip. His biggest handicap though is the company he keeps. Dogs have fleas, you lay around with dogs you get their fleas .
only 10 months left before WCJ starts again. We are all praying for a strong supply of red vines, skittles and Kit Kat bars in the event that the cal stars minions ( I stole that line) have to endure the agony of having to try to pull off the impossible once again!
Good luck today to our JL girls. Tough one against MCHS in an hour…
gigantic shorts arent in style anymore. better let him knw
 
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