The 16 teams were announced Friday. No surprises. The usual powerhouses (LBP, Windward, Sierra Canyon, Troy, Mater Dei, Brea, etc.) with a couple of outstanding newcomers (Fairmont Prep and Orangewood Academy to name two). Seedings will be announced soon. If you transplanted those 16 into, say, Kansas or Minnesota, they would comprise a terrific state tournament all by themselves. The Southern Section, with more schools than all of NorCal combined, is a true prep behemoth.
Southern Section Open
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I think Clovis West's destination depends on two things:
1) The relative strength of the NorCal and SoCal Opens. If there are more (numerically) deserving SoCal teams than NorCal teams, CW could be shifted north so a team like Fairfax, say, could go Open, thus giving the LA Section an entry.
Along that line, it could also be seen as a way of balancing the two regions so that it's just as difficult, in the committee's eyes, to get to the title game from the North as from the South.
2) Politics, which does play a role in almost everything, but usually in girls' basketball to a much lesser degree than in boys. Still, it could be that the Southern Section and SoCal in general is looking to maximize its chances of winning the Open, so moving CW north would eliminate one of the two primary contenders before the final game.
On the flip side, moving CW north would drop a team from the NorCal Open that might well have a chance to win its divisional title (Cardinal Newman would be the prime example, I'd think).
1) The relative strength of the NorCal and SoCal Opens. If there are more (numerically) deserving SoCal teams than NorCal teams, CW could be shifted north so a team like Fairfax, say, could go Open, thus giving the LA Section an entry.
Along that line, it could also be seen as a way of balancing the two regions so that it's just as difficult, in the committee's eyes, to get to the title game from the North as from the South.
2) Politics, which does play a role in almost everything, but usually in girls' basketball to a much lesser degree than in boys. Still, it could be that the Southern Section and SoCal in general is looking to maximize its chances of winning the Open, so moving CW north would eliminate one of the two primary contenders before the final game.
On the flip side, moving CW north would drop a team from the NorCal Open that might well have a chance to win its divisional title (Cardinal Newman would be the prime example, I'd think).
Good points. It would make some logical sense to speculate that, just based on sheer numbers alone, there ought to be more Open-caliber teams in SoCal. There is just more depth of excellence in the South. Which doesn't mean the top team (or couple of teams) is not in the North in a given season.
Sad indeed. Sorry to hear that. But her eligibility over the years has been a constant subject of perplexing concern in the Southern Section. Opposing teams and coaches could not fathom how she was allowed to play at all.
So does this mean CW will be sent to the Norcal Open? Or is that still not determined?
Do you think it has already been decided just not made public until we go through the motions to make it appear like a bit of thought went into the decision? Because how often has CW been sent up North? And why are they being considered to make the move now? And will this be a season by season decision from here on out? I think the gentlemen who suggested they take the top 8 teams regardless to location and have them all duke it out might better determine the top teams in the Open as well as allow for the Division Champions to be a bit more legit. But the goal is to prepare to beat whoever they put in front of you. Because you can't control who you play regardless. But you can control your preparation, effort, decision making, and your attitude. I guess March 5, 2017 we will see what the folks with the power decide to do.
It should be exciting regardless to where CW ends up. But obviously where they end up will have an impact.
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Obviously the decision can be made whenever the power makers want to make it. And the chances of CW losing in their section is 1 and 10 million this season IMO. But I get it. The folks with the power to make the decision have decided to announce it after section playoffs. Because I'm pretty certain the decision has already been made, just not made public IMO. But I could be wrong and they may not just be waiting on formalities. Maybe they truly believe something unexpected will happen. You never know Mt. Diablo may get allowed into the section with Mitty and pull the upset LOL.........
Clay,
Why would CW be a "lower" seed if they beat Carondelet and are a better team record and in reality than every team in the open with the exception of Mitty which they are about even to?
But I agree with you. They should put Mitty at 1 and CW at 8 and then let it all play itself out.
Or will they put Carondelet at 2 and CW at 7 so they can clear space for the Mitty vs CW in the championship asap? What ever is decided hopefully there's a surprise or two lurking out there.
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http://www.maxpreps.com/games/girls...vis-west/1-18-2017-GqXUZUn3-EKbvEPry9wjkw.htm
maybe 1 in 9 million....
maybe 1 in 9 million....
http://cifss.org/brackets/2016-2017...sketball-open-division-championship-brackets/
SS Open Bracket Updated....
And the H-W vs MD game was classic
MD up by 9 points with less that 4 minutes. ..
MD got outscored 12 to 2 to finish the game and loses 59-58
BTW, Etiwanda won it's game 63 - 42
SS Open Bracket Updated....
And the H-W vs MD game was classic
MD up by 9 points with less that 4 minutes. ..
MD got outscored 12 to 2 to finish the game and loses 59-58
BTW, Etiwanda won it's game 63 - 42
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