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[PALbooster]

CCS play-off projections with four weeks to go

Here are the CCS Play-off projections with four weeks left in the season. Barring an upset where one of these teams’ losses to someone other than those in the Open/D1 division, this field looks set although seedings could change. Some small edits to this as the Saturday scores adjust Calprep and CCS rankings but this will be pretty close to final for this week (edits made)

Open/D1

8. Riordan 4-6 65.5 at 1. St. Ignatius 9-1 80.5

7. Salinas 8-2 67 at 2. St. Francis 8-2 77

Winners of Round 1 play for open championship – loser of open championship plays winner of round two game below for D1 championship.

6. Valley Christian 5-5 66.5 at 3. Los Gatos 9-1 76

5. Soquel 8-2 72 at 4. Serra 6-4 75

D2

8. Palma 5-5 48.5* at 1. Christopher 9-1 61

5. Burlingame 9-1 52.5 at 4. Sacred Heart Cathedral 4-6 55

6. Menlo School 7-3 52* at 3. Wilcox 6-4 58.5

7. Monterey 6-4 52* at 2.Menlo-Atherton 8-2 59.5

Elevated to D2 as no B league team can play in D1 or D2

D3

8. Aptos 5-5 40.5 at 1. Carmel 10-0 62*

5. Hollister 5-5 46 at 4. Santa Teresa 9-1 47.5

6. Palo Alto 5-5 43 at 3. Willow Glen 10-0 50.5*

7. Capuchino 8-2 41.5 at 2. Half Moon Bay 10-0 56.5*

Dropped to D3 as no B league team can play in DI or D2

D4

8. Live Oak 3-7 28** at 1. Piedmont Hills 8-2 41.5

5. Hillsdale 5-5 33.5 at 4. Sacred Heart Prep 3-7 33.5

6. San Mateo 7-3 33. at 3. Sobrato 8-2 36.5

7. North Salinas 7-3 32 at 2. Branham 7-3 39

Elevated to D4 as no A league team an be in D5 and all C league teams must be in D5.

D5
8. Gunderson 7-3 19 at 1. North Monterey County 8-2 31.5
5. Alisal 6-4 24 at 4. Pioneer 6-4 24.5
6. Gunn 10-0 23.5 at 3. Woodside 8-2 30.5
7. South San Francisco 7-3 23 at 2. San Lorenzo Valley 10-0 31**

Dropped from D4 to D5 as all C league teams must be in D5.

WCAL

Top four automatic qualifiers will go to St. Ignatius, St. Francis and Valley Christian. Riordan and Sacred Heart Cathedral will likely get two at -large bids. Winner of round robin between league’s 3 3-0 teams Si, VC and St. Francis will get at least a share of the title. Big game this coming week is SI vs St. Francis.

PAL-Bay

Los Gatos is a prohibitive favorite to win this league outright already having defeated Menlo-Atherton. This league gets five automatic berths and Menlo-Atherton, Wilcox, Menlo School, and Palo Alto based on their win this week over Sacred Heart Prep figure to get the other spots. Sacred Heart Prep is currently projected to get the final at-large berth even if it losses its remaining games.

Gabilan

Soquel will be favored to win the league championship when they face-off with Salinas on the road on 11-01. A remarkable ascent for a team that played in a C league in 2018 and a B league in 2022. They are projected to end up as the #2 public school in the CCS. Salinas, Hollister and Monterey are in line to win the other three automatic berths and Palma and Aptos will likely get at-large berths.

Mount Hamilton

Christopher has already beaten the next two highest ranked league opponents Santa Teresa and Branham and should cruise to a league championship. Santa Teresa, Branham and Live Oak should get the last three automatic spots. Lincoln and Leigh are unlikely to get an at-large berth.

PAL-Deanza

This A league gets three automatic berths. Burlingame is favored to win this league with Capuchino and Hillsdale projected to get the other two berths. Kings Academy is projected as fourth and will not get an at-larger spot.

PAL Ocean

Half Moon Bay is a strong favorite to win the league outright and finish the season 10-0 with A league wins over Burlingame, Hillsdale and Sacred Heart Prep. Half Moon Bays power point projections would place them in the middle of D2 but the new CCS rules will drop them to D3 for the play-offs. San Mateo is projected for second ahead of Carlmont and Milpitas (they have beaten both teams). Carlmontis on the bubble for an at-large berth and is currently projected to get edged out by Sacred Heart Prep.

Mission South

Carmel is a prohibitive favorite win this league and finish 10-0 with wins over A league teams Christopher and Monterey. Despite being currently ranked the 9th in the CCS and having the 9th most points the new CCS play-off rules will place them in D3. North Salinas is a strong favorite to get the second spot from this league already having beaten Pacific Grove which is projected for third. Due to their weak schedule Pacific Grove is unlikely to get an at-large spot.

Mission North

With their win over Alisal this week, North Monterey County is a strong favorite to win this league. Alisal and St. Francis figure to contend for the second automatic berth. No one from this league will be strong enough to get an at-large berth.

Valley

With their win over Sobrato this week, Willow Glen should finish 10-0 and win the league outright. Sobrato is a heavy favorite over Leland to capture the second play-off spot.

Foothill

Piedmont Hills is projected as a strong favorite to win this league over Pioneer and Overfelt. Pioneer is projected to get the second automatic berth over Overfelt.

El Camino

The championship should be decided in this weeks game between Woodside at South San Francisco with the loser likely to get the second play-off spot from this league.

Santa Lucia

San Lorenzo Valley is a strong favorite to finish 10-0 and get this C league’s only play-off berth. Stevenson is projected as the second place team from this league.

Lake

This will be an extremely competitive league between Gunn, Jefferson and Saratoga. The winner of the round robin will likely win the league and if they all end up 1-1 the winner will likely be whoever wins the Jefferson vs Gunn game as Saratoga has a tie in league against Monta Vista. Gunn is a slight favorite to end 10-0 and has only given up one touchdown through 6 games.

West Valley

This week’s game between Gunderson and Evergreen Valley will likely determine the league championship and who will be the league’s paly-off representative.

 

[aztecpadre]

Love this time of year when PAL comes out with the projections! Much appreciated!

 

[FBAddict]

You are the Data King. The CCS playoff power point structure has always been a beast, but with all the new augmentation and limitation rules, it is a nightmare. Hats off to you, my friend!

 

[colhenrylives]

THE BEST

 

[LLCCS]

Hey PALBOOSTER, What is the justification as to why PiedmontHills at 41.5 points is the 1 seed in D4 where the 8 seed Aptos has 40.5 and 7 seed Capuchino in D3 also has 41.5 points?

 

[Cal 14]

Salinas at D-Open #7 seed with 67
Valley Christian D-I #6 seed with 66.5

 

[thehookup55]

Hey PALBOOSTER, What is the justification as to why PiedmontHills at 41.5 points is the 1 seed in D4 where the 8 seed Aptos has 40.5 and 7 seed Capuchino in D3 also has 41.5 points?

A-League teams can only be slotted in D1-D3. Aptos and Capuchino are A League. Piedmonte Hills is B league.

 

[LLCCS]

A-League teams can only be slotted in D1-D3. Aptos and Capuchino are A League. Piedmonte Hills is B league.

Live Oak, Hillsdale, Branham, and Sacred Heart Prep are all A-League teams slated in the D4 Bracket currently.

 

[Cal 14]

A-League teams can only be slotted in D1-D3. Aptos and Capuchino are A League. Piedmonte Hills is B league.

No, A league teams can be in D 1-4.

See page 5 of the bylaws.

CCS bylaws

 

[thehookup55]

Live Oak, Hillsdale, Branham, and Sacred Heart Prep are all A-League teams slated in the D4 Bracket currently.

No, A league teams can be in D 1-4.

See page 5 of the bylaws.

CCS bylaws

haha my bad. I will stay in my lane and let PALbooster reply.

 

[Cal 14]

haha my bad. I will stay in my lane and let PALbooster reply.

I think there has been a lot of confusion over this new system. I doubt you're alone in this. I had to go back and read about this recently to clear up my own understanding.

 

[PALbooster]

CCS play-off projections with three weeks to go

Here are the CCS Play-off projections with three weeks left in the season. Only one change to the field with Kings Academy going in and Hillsdale going out.

Open/D1

Barring an upset where one of these teams’ losses to someone other than those in the Open/D1 division, this field looks set although seedings could change as they did this week. St. Francis win over SI moved them from 2 to 1 and dropped SI from 1 to 3. Everything else stayed the same.

8. Riordan 4-6 64 (8) at 1. St. Francis 9-1 81 (2)

7. Salinas 8-2 68.5 (7) at 2. Los Gatos 9-1 77 (3)

Winners of Round 1 play for open championship – loser of open championship plays winner of round two game below for D1 championship.

6. Valley Christian 5-5 69 (6) at 3. St. Ignatius 8-2 75.5 (1)

5. Soquel 8-2 71.5 (5) at 4. Serra 6-4 74.5 (4)

D2

Only changes from last week were Santa Teresa moving into D2 with Burlingame moving down to D3 after being upset by Kings Academy. Some small seeding changes.

8. Santa Teresa 9-1 49.5* (3 in in D3) at 1. Menlo-Atherton 8-2 61.5 (1)

5. Monterey 6-4 54.5 (5) at 4. Sacred Heart Cathedral 4-6 55.5 (4)

6. Menlo School 7-3 52.33 (7) at 3. Christopher 9-1 59 (2)

7. Palma 5-5 50* (8) at 2. Wilcox 6-4 59.83 (3)

Elevated to D2 as no B league team can play in D1 or D2

D3

Some movement here as Half Moon Bay was upset by Sequoia.

8. Piedmont Hills 8-2 41.5 (8) at 1. Carmel 10-0 59* (1)

5. Hollister 5-5 47.5 (5) at 4. Burlingame 8-2 47.5 (6 in D2)

6. Palo Alto 5-5 45.33 (6) at 3. Half Moon Bay 9-1 56.5 (2)

7. Capuchino 8-2 42 (7) at 2. Willow Glen 10-0* 51.5 (3)

Dropped to D3 as no B league team can play in DI or D2

D4

Kings Academy moved into the field instead of Hillsdale based ontheir upset win over Burlingame.

8. Live Oak 3-7 28** (8) at 1. Aptos 5-5 41.33 (1)

5. Sacred Heart Prep 3-7 32.5 (6) at 4. San Mateo 7-3 34.5 (5)

6. North Salinas 7-3 32.5 (7) at 3. Sobrato 8-2 37.5 (2)

7. Kings Academy (NR)** at 2. Branham 7-3 39 (3)

Elevated to D4 as no A league team can be in D5 and all C league teams must be in D5.

D5

Movement here came from South San Francisco’s win over Woodside, flipping their projected finish in their league.

8. Gunderson 7-3 20 (8) at 1. North Monterey County 8-2 32.5 (1)
5. Pioneer 6-4 24.5 (4) at 4. Alisal 6-4 25 (5)
6. Gunn 10-0 22.5 (6) at 3. South San Francisco 8-2 28 (7)
7. Woodside 8-2 22 (3) at 2. San Lorenzo Valley 10-0 32**
**Dropped from D4 to D5 as all C league teams must be in D5.

WCAL

St. Francis replaced SI as the favorite to win the league based on their 27-13 win this week. VC and St. Francis are the leagues only two undefeated teams. Serra nd SI are projected to win the third and fourth automatic spots with Riordan and Sacred Heart Cathedral projected to both get at-large bids.

PAL-Bay

Everything has gone as projected in this league. Los Gatos is a heavy favorite to win the league. Menlo-Atherton, Wilcox, Menlo School, and Palo Alto are projected to get automatic berths. If all projections play out Sacred Heart Prep would edge Carlmont for the last at-large berth.

Gabilan

Salinas and Soquel continue on a collison course for the league championship. Monterey is in good position for third place. This weeks Hollister/Palma game could decide fourth place and the final automatic spot. Aptos and the Palma/Hollister loser should both get at-large berths.

Mount Hamilton

Another conference that has gone as projected. Christopher favored to win the conference with Santa Teresa, Branham and Live Oak projected to get other three play-off berths.

PAL-Deanza

This league had a big upset as Kings Academy beat the top ranked team Burlingame. This league now projects to have tri-champions between Burlingame, Kings Academy and Capuchino. All three would get the league’s three automatic berths. Hillsdale is currently projected fourth and won’t get an at-large bid.

PAL Ocean

Another big upset here as Sequoia beat Half Moon Bay 21-20. Current projections have Half Moon Bay sharing the league title with San Mateo with both teams going to the play-offs. Carlmont is projected to be on the bubble for an at-large berth.

Mission South

No changes here. Carmel should win this league easily and North Salinas is still in the driver’s seat but will probably need a week 10 win over Soledad to cement this spot.

Mission North

No changes here as well. North Monterey County projected to win the league with Alisal getting the second spot.

Valley

Willow Glen is favored to win the league and finish the regular season 10-0. Sobrato is projected to be second beat will need to beat Leland to hold this spot.

Foothill

Piedmont Hills beat Pioneer and is a heavy favorite to win this league. Pioneer is still projected to get the second play-off spot.

El Camino

A showdown between the league’s top two rated teams was won by South San Francisco over Woodside. Woodside is still projected to get the league’s second play-off berth.

Santa Lucia

San Lorenzo Valley is a strong favorite to finish 10-0 and get this C league’s only play-off berth. Stevenson is projected as the second place team from this league.

Lake

This will be an extremely competitive league between Gunn, Jefferson and Saratoga. Gunn is a slight favorite to end 10-0 and has only given up one touchdown through seven games.

West Valley

Gunderson’s win over Evergreen Valley makes them a prohibitive favorite to be the league’s sole play-off representative.

 

[BvalBooster]

Awesome Job as always! A few of us were on the edge of our seats the last 10 days! Glad you have the new playoff system dialed in as well!

Is it too early to tell who the last 5 in or first 5 out would be? In terms of at large spots?

 

[FBAddict]

WCAL

St. Francis replaced SI as the favorite to win the league based on their 27-13 win this week. VC and St. Francis are the leagues only two undefeated teams. Serra nd SI are projected to win the third and fourth automatic spots with Riordan and Sacred Heart Cathedral projected to both get at-large bids.

I'm sure this league description will be corrected in next week's post, but I believe SF and SI are slated for #1 and #2 slots. It is Serra and VC that will likely fill the third and fourth slots.

 

[PALbooster]

Awesome Job as always! A few of us were on the edge of our seats the last 10 days! Glad you have the new playoff system dialed in as well!

Is it too early to tell who the last 5 in or first 5 out would be? In terms of at large spots?

All the teams that do not receive an automatic berth from their league are put into one large pool for at-large consideration. The top 15 teams from that pool with regard to their total CCS points are then considered, with the exception that there can be no more than 6 total (automatic and at-large teams) from any one league. The cal preps rankings are then used with the highest ranked team in this pool getting 15 points and the lowest cal prepared team getting one point. The CCS points are added tot he cal prep points and the top 5 teams are added to the play-off field and placed based on their combined point total and in accordance with other CCS rules governing divisions for A,B anC league teams. After seven weeks the at-large field projects as follows based on my calculations.

Pretty big break between top 4 and numbers 5 and 6. Another big break after that to to 7-9. If Mitty ends up in the top 6 in the WCAL they will replace one of the other WCAL teams. The WCAL can only get two at-large teams and they will be the 1 and 2 teams in the at-large pool. The same holds true between Palma and Hollister as long as they both beat Alvarez.

1. Riordan 4-6 31 CCS + 15 Cal preps = 46
2. Sacred Heart Cathedral 4-6 26.5 CCS + 14 Cal preps = 40.5
3. Hollister 5-5 23,5 CCS + 13 Cal preps = 36.5
4. Aptos 5-5 23.33 CCS + 12 Cal preps = 35.33
5. Sacred Heart Prep 3-7 20.33 CCS + 11 Cal preps = 31.33
6. Carlmont 6-4 21 CCS + 10 Cal preps = 31
7. Hillsdale 4-6 18 CCS + 9 Cal preps = 27
8. Soledad 6-4 18 CCS + 8 Cal preps = 26
9. Milpitas 6-4 19 CCS + 7 Cal preps = 26
10. Leland 5-5 17.7 CCS + 6 Cal preps = 23.7

Other 5 teams in pool are Leigh, Lincoln, Monte Vista Christian, Silver Creek. and Pacific Grove.

 

[PALbooster]

I'm sure this league description will be corrected in next week's post, but I believe SF and SI are slated for #1 and #2 slots. It is Serra and VC that will likely fill the third and fourth slots.

thanks - good catch - SI is projected for second with Serra third and VC fourth

 

[carmelkyd]

Difficult to define how much your hard is appreciated. I'm curious to know how much of each week's work you have been able to automate? Any idea how many hours you spend on each week's projections. From someone who used to help figure out just where "my" school was going to be slotted in the play-offs I stand amazed at how you are able to do this.

 

[PALbooster]

Difficult to define how much your hard is appreciated. I'm curious to know how much of each week's work you have been able to automate? Any idea how many hours you spend on each week's projections. From someone who used to help figure out just where "my" school was going to be slotted in the play-offs I stand amazed at how you are able to do this.

Carmel YKD - thanks for the question. Most of the work is in the set up at the beginning and I find that waiting until week 6 to start the projections means there is not much work week to week to change projections as cal-rep rankings are proving out to be about 85% accurate. There are five point columns

1. Schedule - This moves very little. All CCS teams are set as A, B or C teams at the beginning of the year. Most non-CCS teams are pretty clear whether they are an A, B or C team. There are always a couple of bubble non-CCS teams that I have to track manually every year that hover between some of the categories.

2. Wins - I project this out after week six and every week there are usually 6-8 "upsets" that require adjustments. The bigger ripple is where an upset just doesn't reverse a win or a loss for the two teams involved but rankings change enough to change the projections for a handful of teams going forward for the end of the year.

3. League Championship Points - Part of the projections are projecting out the 13 CCS league champions. If these stay stable there are no adjustments, but when the projection of a league champion changes then I have manually adjust which opponents lose or gain points. Another hard part here that takes some time is checking non-CCS opponents that project to be league champions. For example McLymonds forfeit means that they are now a likely OAL co-Champion instead of easily projected Champion and Riordan and St. Francis loss 0.5 points from the original projection.

4. Top 100/150 bonus points - Again once you get to week 6 this stays pretty stable, but I do check the changes in the list from week to week of both CCS teams and Non-CCS opponents of CCS teams. So as teams on the border go in and out of the top 100 or top 150 points get adjusted accordingly. There are usually only a few teams that go back and forth or out of the rankings this late in the season.

5. CCS Calpreps ranking - Every week I do this. With the top and bottom rankings staying pretty stable but there is usually a lot of change between 11-30 and these cause changes in seeding or division placements.

All in all it takes about 3 hours to set up in Week 6 and then about an hour to 1.5 hours. week after that to track the changes - much is automated, but tables have to be changed manually

 

[PALbooster]

CCS play-off projections with two weeks to go

Here are the CCS Play-off projections with two weeks left in the season. A few changes to the field this week as Leland goes in based on projection to capture second place in the Valley League by upsetting Sobrato. Hillsdale is projected into the field after beating Kings Academy (who is projected out) and Sobrato replaces Sacred Heart Prep as the projected final at-large team.

Open/D1

Barring an upset where one of these teams’ losses to someone other than those in the Open/D1 division, this field looks set although seedings could change as they did this week. SI and Los Gatos flipped seeds, but everything else stayed the same. All eight team’s results were as projected. Three match-ups this week between open teams will impact seedings. Soquel plays Salinas; Riordan plays Serra and St. Francis plays Valley Christian.

8. Riordan 4-6 65 (8) at 1. St. Francis 9-1 81 (2)

7. Salinas 8-2 67.5 (7) at 2. St. Ignatius 8-2 76 (3)

Winners of Round 1 play for open championship – loser of open championship plays winner of round two game below for D1 championship.

6. Valley Christian 5-5 68.5 (6) at 3. Los Gatos 9-1 76 (2)

5. Soquel 8-2 72.5 (5) at 4. Serra 6-4 75 (4)

D2

Seeding changes in this division as Wilcox, Christopher and Menlo-Atherton flipping the 1 through 3 seeds and the rest stayed the same. All the teams in this division also preformed to projections and teams in the bracket stayed the same as last week.

8. Santa Teresa 9-1 50.5* (8) at 1. Wilcox 7-3 60.5 (2)

5. Monterey 6-4 53 (5) at 4. Sacred Heart Cathedral 4-6 56 (4)

6. Menlo School 7-3 52 (6) at 3. Menlo-Atherton 7-3 58.5 (1)

7. Palma 5-5 50.5 (7) at 2. Christopher 9-1 59 (3)

* Elevated to D2 as no B league team can play in D1 or D2

D3

Same eight teams but some movement here as Half Moon Bay continued their downward slide with a loss to San Mateo

8. Burlingame 7-3 42 (4) at 1. Carmel 10-0 59* (1)

5. Palo Alto 5-5 44 (6) at 4. Hollister 5-5 48 (5)

6. Half Moon Bay 8-2 42.5 (3) at 3. Capuchino 9-1 49 (3)

7. Piedmont Hills 8-2 42.5 (8) at 2. Willow Glen 10-0 50.5 (2)

Dropped to D3 as no B league team can play in DI or D2

D4

A couple of changes here as South San Francisco moves up from D5 to D4 and Hillsdale comes back into the field in D4

8. Live Oak 3-7 29** (8) at 1. Aptos 5-5 41 (1)

5. Sobrato 7-3 33 (3) at 4. North Salinas 7-3 35 (6)

6. Hillsdale 5-5 31.5 (NR) at 3. Branham 7-3 38 (2)

7. South San Francisco 8-2 29 (3 in D5) at 2. San Mateo 8-2 39 (4)

Elevated to D4 as no A league team can be in D5 and all C league teams must be in D5.

D5

Leland jumped into the field in D5 and there were also seeding changes.

• 8. Gunderson 7-3 19 (8) at 1. San Lorenzo Valley 10-0 35** (2)
• 5. North Monterey County 7-3 25 (1) at 4. Woodside 7-3 25.5 (7)
• 6. Pioneer 6-4 23.5 (5) at 3. Leland 6-3 25.9 (NR)
• 7..Gunn 10-0 23.5 (6) at 2. Alisal 6-4 27.5 (4)

**Dropped from D4 to D5 as all C league teams must be in D5.

WCAL

All went according to projections with Saint Ignatius beating Valley Christian 20-13 in the league’s most competitive game last week. At this point the league’s top 5 teams have clinched paly off berths and Sacred Heart Cathedral can only be displaced in 6th place if it losses its last two games and either Bellarmine or Mitty win their final two games.

PAL-Bay

Everything has gone as projected in this league to date. The league’s only two undefeated teams square off this week as Wilcox travels to Los Gatos. Five of this league’s six teams get automatic spots. Sacred Heart Prep is currently on the wrong side of the at-large bubble projections and will likely need a win over Menlo-Atherton or Menlo School to have a chance to make the play-offs.

Gabilan

Soquel travels to Salinas this week in the game that will determine the league championship. The league’s 3rd-6th place teams (Monterey, Palma, Hollister and Aptos) continue to jockey for position, but absent an upset win by last place Alvarez over Hollister or Palma all four of those teams figure to make the play-off field.

Mount Hamilton

Another conference that has gone as projected. Leigh will have to pull of an upset over Christopher or Branham to have a chance at one of the four automatic berths currently projected to go to Christopher, Santa Teresa, Branham and Live Oak.

PAL-Deanza

Nothing is quite yet settled in this league with four teams jockeying for three spots. Current projections are for Capuchino, Burlingame and Hillsdale to make the play-offs with Kings Academy being the odd man out. But head-to-head match-ups between relatively closely ranked teams in Burlingame at Capuchino and Capuchino at King’s Academy will be determinative.

PAL Ocean

Half Moon Bay lost for the second week in a row to San Mateo 30-20. This leaves four teams hunting for two spots. San Mateo clinches the league championship with a win at home against Sequoia which after going 1-4 in non-league has been a surprise 3-0 in league to date. Another big match-up this week is Half Moon Bay hosting Carlmont. Regardless of this weeks outcomes the week ten match-up between rivals Carlmont and Sequoia will help determine the top two spots.

Mission South

Carmel cemented their spot as league champion with a win over second place North Salinas. The winner of this league’s match-up between North Salinas and Soledad will determine the second play-off spot.

Mission North

This is the only league where every team has lost a league game and every team has won a league game. This Saturday two of the league’s one loss teams North Monterey County plays at St. Francis of Watsonville. Alisal is the other one loss team and is projected to make the field as well as the winner of the above mentioned game.

Valley

Willow Glen is favored to win the league and finish the regular season 10-0. Leland beat Sobrato this week and can clinch a play-off berth with a win against Gilroy. Sobrato must beat Prospect and Gilroy in its final two games to try to hold onto the sections final at-large berth.

Foothill

Piedmont Hills is the heavy favorite to win this league. The winner of this week’s game where Overfelt travels to Pioneer is likely to get the second play-off spot.

El Camino

South San Francisco has clinched a play-off spot and is sole league champion with either a win at home over Homestead or a Woodside loss at Fremont. Woodside clinches the second league spot with a win over Fremont.

Santa Lucia

The league title will likely be decided by the winner of this week’s game between the league’s remaining two undefeated teams when Stevenson will travel to favorite San Lorenzo Valley.

Lake

Jefferson’s win over Saratoga means this league championship will get settled in week 10 when Gunn hosts Jefferson.

West Valley

Gunderson has clinched this league’s sole play-off spot and ends up as sole champion with a win in its final game against San Jose or another Evergreen Valley loss.

 

[colhenrylives]

CCS play-off projections with two weeks to go

Here are the CCS Play-off projections with two weeks left in the season. A few changes to the field this week as Leland goes in based on projection to capture second place in the Valley League by upsetting Sobrato. Hillsdale is projected into the field after beating Kings Academy (who is projected out) and Sobrato replaces Sacred Heart Prep as the projected final at-large team.

Open/D1

Barring an upset where one of these teams’ losses to someone other than those in the Open/D1 division, this field looks set although seedings could change as they did this week. SI and Los Gatos flipped seeds, but everything else stayed the same. All eight team’s results were as projected. Three match-ups this week between open teams will impact seedings. Soquel plays Salinas; Riordan plays Serra and St. Francis plays Valley Christian.

8. Riordan 4-6 65 (8) at 1. St. Francis 9-1 81 (2)

7. Salinas 8-2 67.5 (7) at 2. St. Ignatius 8-2 76 (3)

Winners of Round 1 play for open championship – loser of open championship plays winner of round two game below for D1 championship.

6. Valley Christian 5-5 68.5 (6) at 3. Los Gatos 9-1 76 (2)

5. Soquel 8-2 72.5 (5) at 4. Serra 6-4 75 (4)

D2

Seeding changes in this division as Wilcox, Christopher and Menlo-Atherton flipping the 1 through 3 seeds and the rest stayed the same. All the teams in this division also preformed to projections and teams in the bracket stayed the same as last week.

8. Santa Teresa 9-1 50.5* (8) at 1. Wilcox 7-3 60.5 (2)

5. Monterey 6-4 53 (5) at 4. Sacred Heart Cathedral 4-6 56 (4)

6. Menlo School 7-3 52 (6) at 3. Menlo-Atherton 7-3 58.5 (1)

7. Palma 5-5 50.5 (7) at 2. Christopher 9-1 59 (3)

* Elevated to D2 as no B league team can play in D1 or D2

D3

Same eight teams but some movement here as Half Moon Bay continued their downward slide with a loss to San Mateo

8. Burlingame 7-3 42 (4) at 1. Carmel 10-0 59* (1)

5. Palo Alto 5-5 44 (6) at 4. Hollister 5-5 48 (5)

6. Half Moon Bay 8-2 42.5 (3) at 3. Capuchino 9-1 49 (3)

7. Piedmont Hills 8-2 42.5 (8) at 2. Willow Glen 10-0 50.5 (2)

Dropped to D3 as no B league team can play in DI or D2

D4

A couple of changes here as South San Francisco moves up from D5 to D4 and Hillsdale comes back into the field in D4

8. Live Oak 3-7 29** (8) at 1. Aptos 5-5 41 (1)

5. Sobrato 7-3 33 (3) at 4. North Salinas 7-3 35 (6)

6. Hillsdale 5-5 31.5 (NR) at 3. Branham 7-3 38 (2)

7. South San Francisco 8-2 29 (3 in D5) at 2. San Mateo 8-2 39 (4)

Elevated to D4 as no A league team can be in D5 and all C league teams must be in D5.

D5

Leland jumped into the field in D5 and there were also seeding changes.

• 8. Gunderson 7-3 19 (8) at 1. San Lorenzo Valley 10-0 35** (2)
• 5. North Monterey County 7-3 25 (1) at 4. Woodside 7-3 25.5 (7)
• 6. Pioneer 6-4 23.5 (5) at 3. Leland 6-3 25.9 (NR)
• 7..Gunn 10-0 23.5 (6) at 2. Alisal 6-4 27.5 (4)

**Dropped from D4 to D5 as all C league teams must be in D5.

WCAL

All went according to projections with Saint Ignatius beating Valley Christian 20-13 in the league’s most competitive game last week. At this point the league’s top 5 teams have clinched paly off berths and Sacred Heart Cathedral can only be displaced in 6th place if it losses its last two games and either Bellarmine or Mitty win their final two games.

PAL-Bay

Everything has gone as projected in this league to date. The league’s only two undefeated teams square off this week as Wilcox travels to Los Gatos. Five of this league’s six teams get automatic spots. Sacred Heart Prep is currently on the wrong side of the at-large bubble projections and will likely need a win over Menlo-Atherton or Menlo School to have a chance to make the play-offs.

Gabilan

Soquel travels to Salinas this week in the game that will determine the league championship. The league’s 3rd-6th place teams (Monterey, Palma, Hollister and Aptos) continue to jockey for position, but absent an upset win by last place Alvarez over Hollister or Palma all four of those teams figure to make the play-off field.

Mount Hamilton

Another conference that has gone as projected. Leigh will have to pull of an upset over Christopher or Branham to have a chance at one of the four automatic berths currently projected to go to Christopher, Santa Teresa, Branham and Live Oak.

PAL-Deanza

Nothing is quite yet settled in this league with four teams jockeying for three spots. Current projections are for Capuchino, Burlingame and Hillsdale to make the play-offs with Kings Academy being the odd man out. But head-to-head match-ups between relatively closely ranked teams in Burlingame at Capuchino and Capuchino at King’s Academy will be determinative.

PAL Ocean

Half Moon Bay lost for the second week in a row to San Mateo 30-20. This leaves four teams hunting for two spots. San Mateo clinches the league championship with a win at home against Sequoia which after going 1-4 in non-league has been a surprise 3-0 in league to date. Another big match-up this week is Half Moon Bay hosting Carlmont. Regardless of this weeks outcomes the week ten match-up between rivals Carlmont and Sequoia will help determine the top two spots.

Mission South

Carmel cemented their spot as league champion with a win over second place North Salinas. The winner of this league’s match-up between North Salinas and Soledad will determine the second play-off spot.

Mission North

This is the only league where every team has lost a league game and every team has won a league game. This Saturday two of the league’s one loss teams North Monterey County plays at St. Francis of Watsonville. Alisal is the other one loss team and is projected to make the field as well as the winner of the above mentioned game.

Valley

Willow Glen is favored to win the league and finish the regular season 10-0. Leland beat Sobrato this week and can clinch a play-off berth with a win against Gilroy. Sobrato must beat Prospect and Gilroy in its final two games to try to hold onto the sections final at-large berth.

Foothill

Piedmont Hills is the heavy favorite to win this league. The winner of this week’s game where Overfelt travels to Pioneer is likely to get the second play-off spot.

El Camino

South San Francisco has clinched a play-off spot and is sole league champion with either a win at home over Homestead or a Woodside loss at Fremont. Woodside clinches the second league spot with a win over Fremont.

Santa Lucia

The league title will likely be decided by the winner of this week’s game between the league’s remaining two undefeated teams when Stevenson will travel to favorite San Lorenzo Valley.

Lake

Jefferson’s win over Saratoga means this league championship will get settled in week 10 when Gunn hosts Jefferson.

West Valley

Gunderson has clinched this league’s sole play-off spot and ends up as sole champion with a win in its final game against San Jose or another Evergreen Valley loss.

Another outstanding job. The Booster is a vital CCS resource. Where would we be without this savvy individual? That's right, we'd be floundering in the prep football darkness like pathetic lost souls seeking divine guidance.

 

[Niklas227]

Carmel YKD - thanks for the question. Most of the work is in the set up at the beginning and I find that waiting until week 6 to start the projections means there is not much work week to week to change projections as cal-rep rankings are proving out to be about 85% accurate. There are five point columns

1. Schedule - This moves very little. All CCS teams are set as A, B or C teams at the beginning of the year. Most non-CCS teams are pretty clear whether they are an A, B or C team. There are always a couple of bubble non-CCS teams that I have to track manually every year that hover between some of the categories.

2. Wins - I project this out after week six and every week there are usually 6-8 "upsets" that require adjustments. The bigger ripple is where an upset just doesn't reverse a win or a loss for the two teams involved but rankings change enough to change the projections for a handful of teams going forward for the end of the year.

3. League Championship Points - Part of the projections are projecting out the 13 CCS league champions. If these stay stable there are no adjustments, but when the projection of a league champion changes then I have manually adjust which opponents lose or gain points. Another hard part here that takes some time is checking non-CCS opponents that project to be league champions. For example McLymonds forfeit means that they are now a likely OAL co-Champion instead of easily projected Champion and Riordan and St. Francis loss 0.5 points from the original projection.

4. Top 100/150 bonus points - Again once you get to week 6 this stays pretty stable, but I do check the changes in the list from week to week of both CCS teams and Non-CCS opponents of CCS teams. So as teams on the border go in and out of the top 100 or top 150 points get adjusted accordingly. There are usually only a few teams that go back and forth or out of the rankings this late in the season.

5. CCS Calpreps ranking - Every week I do this. With the top and bottom rankings staying pretty stable but there is usually a lot of change between 11-30 and these cause changes in seeding or division placements.

All in all it takes about 3 hours to set up in Week 6 and then about an hour to 1.5 hours. week after that to track the changes - much is automated, but tables have to be changed manually

I appreciate you doing this PALbooster! 🫡

 

[PALbooster]

Question on PAL B league automatic berths for the group.

There is some chatter that the PAL has some discretion on wether they give two spots to both the El Camino League and the Ocean League or give three automatic berths to the Ocean League and one to the El Camino League.

CCS rules clearly permit leagues (like the PAL, BVAL, and PCAL that have more than one league in a division to divide things as they wish with two provisions. First, One spot must be preserved for the league champion and second that it is articulated clearly before the season in the league's by-laws. When I go to the Pal Football by-laws it pretty clearly states two teams rom each the Ocean and El Camino leagues, but the by-laws aren't dated and don't know if they were updated prior to this season. Based on some of the chatter by the coaches it seems they think that the PAL has some discretion on wether they give the third place team in the Ocean an automatic berth instead of the second place team in the El Camino.

Does anyone have any knowledge on this? Thanks

 

[CCSFB98]

Question on PAL B league automatic berths for the group.

There is some chatter that the PAL has some discretion on wether they give two spots to both the El Camino League and the Ocean League or give three automatic berths to the Ocean League and one to the El Camino League.

CCS rules clearly permit leagues (like the PAL, BVAL, and PCAL that have more than one league in a division to divide things as they wish with two provisions. First, One spot must be preserved for the league champion and second that it is articulated clearly before the season in the league's by-laws. When I go to the Pal Football by-laws it pretty clearly states two teams rom each the Ocean and El Camino leagues, but the by-laws aren't dated and don't know if they were updated prior to this season. Based on some of the chatter by the coaches it seems they think that the PAL has some discretion on wether they give the third place team in the Ocean an automatic berth instead of the second place team in the El Camino.

Does anyone have any knowledge on this? Thanks

From the PAL Football bylaws- https://www.smcoe.org/assets/files/...letic League_FIL/Bylaws_FIL/footballbylaw.pdf

11. CCS PLAYOFFS 11.1. The top 5 finishers in the Bay, the top 3 finishers in the DeAnza, the top 2 finishers in the Ocean and El Camino divisions and the top finisher in the Lake division shall enter the CCS Football Playoffs as the league's automatic qualifiers.

In addition, in determining Automatic Qualifiers, the third place Ocean Division team and the second place El Camino Division team will be considered tied for the 4th and final B league Automatic Qualifier. If an automatic qualifier chooses to not participate in the CCS Play-offs, the next team in rank order from that division will be offered the automatic qualifying berth. This procedure will continue until the automatic qualifying berths are filled.

 

[Footballgrind]

Patiently waiting for PALBooster to update brackets!

 

[ChewpaMiverga]

It’s those damn Crusaders. They threw a fork in the formula!

 

[PALbooster]

CCS play-off projections with one week to go

Lots of upsets in week 9 leaving many more teams with a chance to make the field based on final week results. I show 25 teams have clinched spots regardless of week 10 results and there are 26 teams fighting for the last 15 positions.

Open/D1

Even with Wilcox upsetting Los Gatos 19-14 and three other teams projected into the open losing in head-to-head match ups with Soquel beating Salinas 34-14, Riordan beating Serra 27-20 and St. Francis beating Valley Christian 35-17 – the field remained the same with some seeding changes. I don’t see Wilcox jumping Salinas for the 8th spot unless Salinas losses in week 10 to Holister.

8. Salinas 8-2 66 (7) at 1. St. Francis 9-1 81 (1)

7. Valley Christian 5-5 68 (6) at 2. St. Ignatius 8-2 76 (2)

Winners of Round 1 play for open championship – loser of open championship plays winner of round two game below for D1 championship.

6. Riordan 5-5 69 (8) at 3. Serra 5-5 73 (4)

5. Soquel 8-2 70 (5) at 4. Los Gatos 8-2 72.5 (3)

D2

A few upsets in this division as well but only change to the field is Santa Teresa moving to D3 and Capuchino moving up to D2.

8. Palma 5-5 50.5 (7)* (8) at 1. Wilcox 8-2 65 (1)

5. Monterey 6-4 53 (5) at 4. Menlo-Atherton 6-4 54.5 (3)

6. Menlo School 7-3 53 (6) at 3. Christopher 9-1 57 (2)

7. Capuchino 9-1 52.5 (3 in D3) at 2. Sacred Heart Cathedral 4-6 59 (4)

* Elevated to D2 as no B league team can play in D1 or D2

D3

Only change to the field here was Capuchino going up and Santa Teresa moving down to this division.

8. Piedmont Hills 8-2 40.5 (7) at 1. Carmel 10-0 59* (1)

5. Palo Alto 5-5 44 (5) at 4. Half Moon Bay 8-2 45.5 (6)

6. Hollister 4-6 43 (4) at 3. Willow Glen 10-0 47.5 (2)

7. Burlingame 7-3 41.5 (8) at 2. Santa Teresa 9-1 50.5 (8 in D2)

Dropped to D3 as no B league team can play in DI or D2

D4

Sacred Heart Prep replaces Sobrato as the final at-large field in this week’s projections.

8. Live Oak 3-7 28** (8) at 1. Aptos 5-5 39.5 (1)

5. San Mateo 7-3 33 (2) at 4. North Salinas 7-3 35 (4)

6. Hillsdale 5-5 31.5 (6) at 3. Branham 7-3 38 (3)

7. South San Francisco 8-2 31 (7) at 2. Sacred Heart Prep 4-6 38.5 (NR)

Elevated to D4 as no A league team can be in D5 and all C league teams must be in D5.

D5

Three new teams here as Overfelt replaced Pioneer, Stevenson replaced San Lorenzo Valley, and Sequoia has guaranteed a spot in the field and replaced Woodside as three spots were allocated to the Ocean Division.

• 8. Gunderson 7-3 19 (8) at 1. North Monterey County 7-3 28.5 (5)
• 5. Alisal 5-5 22 (2) at 4. Gunn 10-0 23.5 (7)
• 6. Stevenson 7-2 21.7 (NR) at 3. Leland 6-3 25.9 (3)
• 7. Overfelt 5-5 20.5 (NR) at 2. Sequoia 5-5 28 (NR)

WCAL

The top five teams have all guaranteed play-off spots (St. Francis, St. Ignatius, Valley Christian, Riordan and Serra) regardless of their results in week 10. St. Francis winns the league outright with either a win over Valley Christian or an SI loss to Mitty. All five of these teams are likely to be in the Open/D1 play-off division. The last play-off spot is still open. Sacred Heart Cathedral gets the spot with a win over Bellarmine. Mitty gets the spot if they beat SI and SHC losses to Bellarmine. In the case where both teams lose it will create a three way tie for 6th. SHC and Mitty are likely to have the same number of CCS points in this scenario (although that could change based on week 10 results elsewhere). I’m not sure at that point if they go to head-to-head or Calprep ranking. SHC won head-to-head. If they both lose it is likely Mitty will be ahead in Calprep ranking. The 6thpalce team will likely be a high D2 seed.

PAL-Bay

Wilcox upset Los Gatos 19-14 and will win the league outright with either a win over Menlo-Atherton this week or a Los Gatos loss to Palo Alto. Wilcox, Los Gatos and Menlo-Atherton all have guaranteed play-off spots. Menlo, Palo Alto and Sacred Heart Prep all control their own fate. The winner of the Valpo Bowl between Menlo and Sacred Heart Prep will get an automatic berth. If Palo Alto scores an unlikely upset of Los Gatos they get in. If Palo Alto loses they win a head-to-head tiebreaker with SHP but not Menlo. Whoever is the odd man out is likely to ge the last at-large berth.

Gabilan

Soquel, Salinas and Monterey all have guaranteed spots. Soquel wins the league outright with a win over Aptos or a Salinas loss to Hollister. Alvarez’s week 9 upset win over Hollister has jumbled the bottom of this league. Aptos can do no worse than tie for fourth with the winner of the Palma and Alverez game. Hollister can make this a three way tie if they win over Salinas. Alvarez does not have an avenue to make the play-offs. I still see Aptos, Hollister and Palma getting in regardless of week 10 results with one getting an automic bid and the other two getting at-large berths.

Mount Hamilton

Christopher and Santa Teresa have clinched play-off berths. Christopher wins the league outright with a win over Live Oak or Santa Teresa loss to Oak Grove. Three teams still are competing for the last two spots. Leigh plays at Branham. If Branham wins Branham and Live Oak get the last two spots. If Leigh wins they either end up in a three way tiebreaker with Branham if Live Oak losses that would put Branham and Leigh into the play-offs or if Live Oak wins a two way tie with Branham where they win the head-to-head tiebreaker.

Tehre will not be an at-large team from this league.

PAL-Deanza

Capuchino and Burlingame have secured their play-off spots. Capuchino plays at Kings Academy in Week 10. If Capuchino wins they are sole league champion. If Kings Academy wins they are Co-champions and make the play-offs. If Kings Academy losses they still make the play-offs with a Hillsdale loss to Aragon. However, a Kings Academy loss and Hillsdale win creates a three-way tie for two spots. In that case Burlingame and Hillsdale would get the two spots. Interesting question if Kings Academy should get a point for Rio Honda Prep being a league champion given that Rio Honda Prep only plays in a three team league.

PAL Ocean

Sequoia and San Mateo clinched play-off berths. Sequoia beat Sna Mateo in overtime and win the league outright with a week 10 win over Carlmont ( who is ranked higher in Calpreps despite being in fourth place in league). A Sequoia loss will make them co-champions with San Mateo. It is murky but the PAL by-laws have an ambiguous statement that the third place Ocean team is tied for play-off consideration with the second place El Camino team. If Half Moon Bay beats Terra Nova they will be the third place Ocean team and hold a head-to- head win over Woodside who is second in the El Camino as well as having more CCS point sand a higher Calprep ranking. I have put HMB in the field as an automatic berth and kept Woodside out on this basis. IF I have read this wrong, HMB would have a good chance of getting the final out large spot over the sixth place finisher in the PAL-Bay division.

Mission South

Everything done here with Carmel and North Salinas as the two teams progressing to the play-offs. Carmel wins league outright with win over Pacific Grove or is Co-champion with a loss.

Mission North

North Monterey County has won one of the two spots and is outright league champion with a week 10 over Watsonville. The other three teams (Monte Vista Christian, St. Francis and Alisal) all have two league losses still have a chance at the second spot. MVC and St. Francis play each other and the loser will be out. Alisal would get the second spot with a week 10 win over Scotts Valley and a NMC win as Alisal wins a two way tiebreaker over both MVC and St. Francis. However Alisal would lose a three way tie-breaker with NMC and MVC (But be in a three way tiebreaker with St. Francis and NMC). St. Francis can only get in by winning in week 10 and Alisal losing in week 10.

Valley

Willow Glen and Leland are both undefeated in league play and play each other this week. Both will make the play-offs. The winner will be sole league champion

Foothill

Piedmont Hills has clinched a berth. Overfelt beat Pioneer 18-17 in week 9 and make the play-offs if they beat Silver Creek. If Silver Creek and Pioneer win in week 10 Pioneer wins a three way tiebreaker. Silver Creek only gets in with a win over Overfelt and a Pioneer loss at Del Mar.

El Camino

South San Francisco has clinched a play-off spot and is sole league champion. Woodside has finished second, but see PAL-Ocean with regard to if this will get them in the play-offs.

Santa Lucia

Stevenson ‘s week 9 win over previsouly undefeated San Lornzo Valley clinchses the leagues sole play-off berth.

Lake

Pretty simple. Gunn and Jefferson play in week 10. Winner wins league outright and goes to play-offs. Loser’s season is over.

West Valley

Gunderson has clinched this league’s sole play-off spot.

 

[PALbooster]

From the PAL Football bylaws- https://www.smcoe.org/assets/files/About_FIL/Peninsula Athletic League_FIL/Bylaws_FIL/footballbylaw.pdf

11. CCS PLAYOFFS 11.1. The top 5 finishers in the Bay, the top 3 finishers in the DeAnza, the top 2 finishers in the Ocean and El Camino divisions and the top finisher in the Lake division shall enter the CCS Football Playoffs as the league's automatic qualifiers.

In addition, in determining Automatic Qualifiers, the third place Ocean Division team and the second place El Camino Division team will be considered tied for the 4th and final B league Automatic Qualifier. If an automatic qualifier chooses to not participate in the CCS Play-offs, the next team in rank order from that division will be offered the automatic qualifying berth. This procedure will continue until the automatic qualifying berths are filled.

Thanks for posting this - not clear how they break this tie - I assume head-to-head then CCS points, then Cal-prep rankings.

 

[CoachDada]

Gabilan

Soquel, Salinas and Monterey all have guaranteed spots. Soquel wins the league outright with a win over Aptos or a Salinas loss to Hollister. Alvarez’s week 9 upset win over Hollister has jumbled the bottom of this league. Aptos can do no worse than tie for fourth with the winner of the Palma and Alverez game. Hollister can make this a three way tie if they win over Salinas. Alvarez does not have an avenue to make the play-offs. I still see Aptos, Hollister and Palma getting in regardless of week 10 results with one getting an automic bid and the other two getting at-large berths.

Longtime follower. Thank you for everything over the years. Question. If Alvarez upsets Palma on Friday night, finishing in 5th place in the Gab ahead of Hollister and Palma, you still have Alvarez missing the playoffs?

 

[BvalBooster]

Awesome work! So looks like this season all At-Large teams will come from A leagues throughout the section?

Do you happen to have the point values for the top ten at large teams like you had posted previously in this thread? Thank you for your efforts in providing this insight for all of us!

 

[colhenrylives]

The Booster: Manna from prep football heaven.

 

[SFcityfan]

The Booster: Manna from prep football heaven.

+5

 

[PALbooster]

Longtime follower. Thank you for everything over the years. Question. If Alvarez upsets Palma on Friday night, finishing in 5th place in the Gab ahead of Hollister and Palma, you still have Alvarez missing the playoffs?

I do have them missing the play-off under all scenarios.

The only league that I am aware of that has an integrity rule in terms of presenting teams in the order of finish is the WCAL. The reason is most seasons all eight teams might qualify and even though they are limited to 6 teams they don't the 7th place team that might have more points than the 6th place team going in their place.

Alvarez will likely finish in a tie for 4th place if they beat Palma. But the Gabilan like most leagues presents its teams for at-large based on their number of CCS points. Here is whatI have for the Gabilan assuming Alvarez beats Palma.

Alvarez - losses 4th place tie breaker to Aptos due to head-to head loss. If Hollister beat Salinas there would are a three- way tie for fourth but Alvarez would lose out by having fewer CCS points than the other two as head to head would all be 1-1 between the three teams.

At-large points
Alvarez 4-6 20.5 points (8 schedule points, 8 points for 4 wins, 2 points for playing league champions - assuming NMC is sole champion + 2.5 points for playing 1 top 100 team (Soquel) and 1 top 150 team (Salinas). Ranked #35 in section by CalPreps

Palma - 4-6 23.5 points (9 schedule points, 8 points for 4 wins, 3 points for playing champions (NMC, Sequel and
Yuma Catholic)+ 3.5 points for playing 1 top 100 team Sequel and 2 top 150 teams Salinas and Yuma Catholic. Ranked #17 in section by Calpreps

Hollister 4-6 23 points 9.5 schedule points, 8 points for 4 wins, 2 points for playing league champion (Wilcox and Soquel)+ 3.5 points for playing 1 top 100 team (Soquel) and 2 top 150 teams (Salinas and Wilcox). Ranked #22 in section by Cal Preps.

Since the Gabilan can only have six teams make the play-offs even with an Alvarez win over Palma they will be the third at-large team presented as they have fewer points and can't get in. Clearly if Alvarez beat Palam their Calprep ranking would go up and Palma would go down but I don't think it would get Alvarez in front of either Palma or Hollister.

 

[PALbooster]

Awesome work! So looks like this season all At-Large teams will come from A leagues throughout the section?

Do you happen to have the point values for the top ten at large teams like you had posted previously in this thread? Thank you for your efforts in providing this insight for all of us!

15 teams projected in at-large pool

1. Riordan 33 + 15 = 48
2. Sacred Heart Cathedral. 28 + 14 = 42
3. Palma. 25.5 +13 = 38.5
4. Hollister. 23 +12 = 35
5. Sacred Heart Prep 20.5+ 11 = 31.5
6. Sobrato. 22 + 9 = 31
7. Carlmont 20 + 10 = 30
8.Woodside 20.5 +7 = 27.5
9. Kings Academy 19 +8 = 27
10. San Lorenzo Valley 23+ 4 = 27
11. Monte Vista Christian 19.5 +5 = 24.5
12. Soledad 18 + 6 =24
13. Leigh 18.5+ 3 = 21.5
14. Pioneer 18.5 +2 = 20.5
15. Jefferson 17.5 + 1 = 18.5

Even if Riordan or SHC gets bumped by say a Serra or Mitty their profile would be very much the same. I think the top 4 are pretty set - two from WCAL and two from Gabilan. The 5th spot will be tight between the 6th place team in the PAL Bay, Sobrato and Carlmont. Even if SHP gets an automatic spot Menlo or Palo Alto would have a pretty similar or even better CCS point profile

 

[CoachDada]

I do have them missing the play-off under all scenarios.

The only league that I am aware of that has an integrity rule in terms of presenting teams in the order of finish is the WCAL. The reason is most seasons all eight teams might qualify and even though they are limited to 6 teams they don't the 7th place team that might have more points than the 6th place team going in their place.

Alvarez will likely finish in a tie for 4th place if they beat Palma. But the Gabilan like most leagues presents its teams for at-large based on their number of CCS points. Here is whatI have for the Gabilan assuming Alvarez beats Palma.

Alvarez - losses 4th place tie breaker to Aptos due to head-to head loss. If Hollister beat Salinas there would are a three- way tie for fourth but Alvarez would lose out by having fewer CCS points than the other two as head to head would all be 1-1 between the three teams.

Man, you are so detailed. Thank you

 

[ChewpaMiverga]

Sir,

What would be the result of a Riordan win versus St. Francis and a SI win versus Mitty?

What would be the result of a St. Francis win versus Riordan and a Mitty win versus SI?

Lastly. what would be the result of a Riordan win versus St. Francis and a Mitty win versus SI?

Thanks in advanced.

-Chewpa

 

[PALbooster]

Sir,

What would be the result of a Riordan win versus St. Francis and a SI win versus Mitty?

What would be the result of a St. Francis win versus Riordan and a Mitty win versus SI?

Lastly. what would be the result of a Riordan win versus St. Francis and a Mitty win versus SI?

Thanks in advanced.

-Chewpa

there are endless possibilities - the simple way to do this yourself is that if there is a game with a result different than the proejction (St. Francis and SI win) then the team that was upset will lose two points as they will have one less win and the team that has the upset win will have 2 more points.

In the case where St. Francis losses and SI wins - there will be co-champs and St. Francis will lose an additional 0.75 points and SI will gain an additional 0.75 points. Impossible to tell how it will affect Cal Prep rankings and additional points lost or gained as it is dependent on all the results from the week of all other games.

 

[RLS13]

Since the Gabilan can only have six teams make the play-offs even with an Alvarez win over Palma they will be the third at-large team presented as they have fewer points and can't get in. Clearly if Alvarez beat Palam their Calprep ranking would go up and Palma would go down but I don't think it would get Alvarez in front of either Palma or Hollister.

If this does happen, (Alvarez beating Palma would be a big if) the CCS needs to consider the "eye ball" rule that NCS has. Alvarez would be 2-4 in the Gabilan tied for 4th place while both Palma and Hollister would be 1-5. Alvarez would of beaten both Palma and Hollister yet those 2 teams leapfrog Alvarez into the playoffs? That just seems wrong to me.

 

[PALbooster]

If this does happen, (Alvarez beating Palma would be a big if) the CCS needs to consider the "eye ball" rule that NCS has. Alvarez would be 2-4 in the Gabilan tied for 4th place while both Palma and Hollister would be 1-5. Alvarez would of beaten both Palma and Hollister yet those 2 teams leapfrog Alvarez into the playoffs? That just seems wrong to me.

I did find the appropriate PCAL by-law - Section 23.4

For sports where CCS play-off points are used for seeding, teams from the PCAL applying for the CCS Play-offs on an "At-Large" basis will be seeded into the tournament by the League based on the ranking of those league teams with respect to CCS points for playoff purposes, without regard to the division placement or division standing. If there are teams tied in CCS play-off points the ties will be broken using the tiebreakers stated above beginning with head-to-ehad competition.

You can debate the fairness. On one hand if you used the WCAL rule and made the league present teams in the order of their league finish then you run the risk that no-one from your league gets placed as an at-large team as a weak 5th place finisher blocks a 6th or 7th place team with more CCS points from getting in. The WCAL doesn't have to worry about that given all the extra bonus points all their league teams receive by virtue of league play (This year 7.5 points vs 2.5 or 3 points for Gabilan teams). I did a quick look at the numbers I show that if the Gabilan put Alvarez first in line for At-large they would likely be 6th (hard to see how hard they would rise in CAlprpeps if they beat Palma). but it is likely that Carlmont and Sobrato will finish ahead in the calculations for At-Large. So the result for the Gabilan would be no at-large teams vs two by putting Palma and Hollister (or Aptos) forward.

 

[RLS13]

@PALbooster, as always you go above and beyond in your explanations, greatly appreciated.

Similar thing happened in 2019 to Alvarez when Carmel was seated into the playoff field by virtue of more power points. That year they both finished 2-4 in League tied for fifth, Alvarez won the head to head, but Carmel received the playoff spot based on power points, I believe Alvarez was the first team out. But that was only 1 team and they were tied in the standings, this would be 2 teams finishing a full game below them. Just does not sit well.

Alvarez still has to go and beat Palma for the first time ever....

 

[Cal 14]

If this does happen, (Alvarez beating Palma would be a big if) the CCS needs to consider the "eye ball" rule that NCS has. Alvarez would be 2-4 in the Gabilan tied for 4th place while both Palma and Hollister would be 1-5. Alvarez would of beaten both Palma and Hollister yet those 2 teams leapfrog Alvarez into the playoffs? That just seems wrong to me.

The whole point of the CCS system is to remove subjectivity from the equation. Everyone knows the rules at the beginning of the season, so it's incumbent on each team to schedule accordingly. Alvarez scheduled all B teams, while Palma scheduled (effectively) two A teams.