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The CCS is a joke

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i would be shocked if anybody on their board participated in sports besides recess. Who in their right mind would schedule a consolation game in a sport that is so emotionally driven as football? They obviously don't understand there is nothing to play for and that's when people can and do get hurt. It was obviously financially driven and that is disgusting.

Finally, all of you talking about students transferring have an inflated idea of the importance of high school football sectional championships. First of all, Serra is still going to play. Secondly, do you really think a student-athlete is going to leave the high school he attends to try and win a section title? Some of you posters would but I highly doubt the kids will. Get some perspective!
 
What does the "consolation" trophy actually look like? lol.

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Seriously. If you transfer because of this you got major priority issues. Is this SMU Football? Are you taking scholarships away? What about the coach's bonus if he wins Section? Common guys.
 
Since it seems more than a few schools are upset with the CCS, how much of a possibility would it be for several of these schools to band together and form their own section?

I mean, the Oakland and SF sections only have 6 and 7 members respectively. Why couldn't several CCS schools jump ship and form their own section?

I realize that football isn't the only sport to consider and that may be a reason no school would commit to defecting, but if their are a few school willing to bail on the CCS perhaps now would be the time to do it? Heck, perhaps a private school section could be formed? Basically the WCAL and whatever other private schools would care to join. There are a number of ways they could go.

Moving to the NCS may not be viable due to location and travel difficulties.
 
Originally posted by Dooer:
I would assume that the CIF might have something to say about that.
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Like what exactly? I mean, how did all these different sections come to be in the first place? How do we have the SF and OAK sections with 6 and 7 schools only? Those schools could certainly be in either the NCS or CCS but aren't. If the CIF is ok with 6 and 7 team sections that could have been included in the larger sections of the greater Bay Area, I don't see how they'd have a problem with another section being formed so long as it abides by whatever criteria they may have.
 
NCSF,
Your post is comical. You are complaining about kids transferring when your kid "commutes" to DLS to play football. If DLS were a public school, your kid would be committing the same kind of treason you speak of. Don't rag on other kids for something yourself and many others are doing in your little "DLS circle."

These days all parents are trying to get some type of competitive advantage. They will do anything. The only problem is high school only lasts for so long. It is sad that many of these kids are so important in high school but when college comes around, or when it is time to become a real man and a father, they are not so important anymore. I went to school with many parents and kids like this. I saw how they ended up. Many of them now work at the mall or grow weed in their garage.
 
G61- you have short-term memory I believe. I have said many times I am an outsider regarding DLS and don't have a kid there. And I'm not complaining about kids transferring from another school because I don't think they would.

Here's something you don't have the the ability to grasp- that DLS program is so much more about football. Stop babbling incessantly about stupid things like annual income of Folsom, which would be about 40th in the Bay Area (moot point- I like the town) and read "When the game stands tall". If you don't gleam some insight from that, then you are either too arrogant or ignorant to understand.
 
I think the only reason that the SF & Oak sections are allowed to exist with so few teams is because of their historical significance. Back in the day they were much bigger factors in football and other sports. That being said, if a group of private schools (WCAL & a few others) wanted to secede and create their own section, it might be received well by a lot of the public schools. That seems to be the purpose in the creation of the CCS Open division anyway. If this situations gets any worse, it may be worth considering.
 
NCSF,
Stop the Bay Area babble... Ignorance and arrogance is why everyone hates people that live in those areas. Come up to a real city outside of the Bay Area...I am sure it will open your eyes
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I think your inability to think "outside the bubble" is either from not being educated, or just ignorance. You tell me
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By the way- Folsom is the best team in the state!
 
Looks like I underestimated tuition rates...shows how much I know!

Good thing we have Google
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To me, it sounds crazy. We have AMAZING schools here in Folsom...they are public...

The thought of spending ANY money to send my kid to HIGH SCHOOL seems nuts...especially with the cost of college nowadays. There are places in CA (Folsom) that have great sports, GREAT education, AND are free
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Crazy concept huh?
 
You keep forgetting that I lived in Folsom and said I liked it. You honestly will never understand what I'm talking about. That's okay. By the way, I'm not a big fan of the Bay. I'd move to Scottsdale or Atlanta suburbs and even Tulsa in a heartbeat.

This post was edited on 1/25 5:18 PM by NCSF
 
Right now, I am liking Sutter Street Steakhouse. But there is a new one called "Hampton's on Sutter" that is good as well. I am also a HUGE fan of Visconti's on East Bidwell.

You?
 
I lived there in 1994 and none of that was there. I just liked the people. Been through there a few times. Buddy of mine coaches baseball there (new CC) so I will come watch. Re the Italian place- I'm a snob when it comes to Italian cuisine. My buddy owns about eight of the finest in the country (closest is Vegas) and I haven't found anything close.
 
Next time you come, try Visconti's. Trust me. Authentically owned and operated. Packed every night. You will thank me later
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I will try it and tell the Chef to make his favorite dish. That's when you get something special.
 
We did that at a little Italian place we found in Laguna Beach a few months ago. Simply amazing
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Chef came right to the table and told us he would make us whatever we wanted, exactly how we wanted. We got spoiled after that...
 
G61; I live in Folsom and need the restaurant recommendations! Like Land Ocean, but would drive past it to get to Visconti's (solid recommendation) But then again, I would drive past Manderes to get to La Fiesta! My taste is based more on food than atmosphere and Visconti's is good Italian food (taste like home).

NCSF: We have a mutual friend, Q is a great guy and I regret that my kid only played under him for a season or 2 (went to the "other" HS and went through 3 coaches in 4 yrs, none even close to Q)
 
Ahhhh La Fiesta! That is a GREAT Mexican spot. Love it! I haven't tried L&O yet. I will have to check that out. I am also a big fan of Jacks Urban Eats. If you get a chance, check out Freebirds World Burrito inside the Palladio. Kind of like an alternative to Chipotle. Solid.
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I am surprised no one brought this up yet, or maybe someone did but i just did not see it. But the Consolation games are ANOTHER ticket for the CCS.....lets say you get 1000-2000 people at the game 10 dollars a ticket . you do the math. And thats with 2-4 consolation games.... They dont care about the health or safety of these kids, they see it as another way to make more money.... as the playoffs pay the section and not the schools.
 
Stop with the CCS sucks nonsense. Lot of good people trying to do the right thing...and maybe not always getting it right. I went to the VC/Los Gatos consolation game. I would be surprised if there were 500 people in the stands. It was not a money-maker. And while I don't agree with everything the CCS does, the management is full of folks that plated at high levels, coached for many, many years and reffed for just as much.
 
Their choices on having an open division and consolation games showed horrible judgment. There's a reason why their commissioner is resigning sooner than later. There's no getting around it.
 
It's interesting that friends of mine that live in the CCS have told me that the CCS administration is screwed up.
I can't believe miss Nancy has lasted this long as the chief commissioner. I guess this last episode made her
consider that retiring was the best option for her - does anyone know how she ever got the position in the first
place? It must be a mellow athletic CIF section. I don't think she would have lasted six months as the chief
commissioner in the CIFSS!
 
Originally posted by sea1:
It's interesting that friends of mine that live in the CCS have told me that the CCS administration is screwed up.
I can't believe miss Nancy has lasted this long as the chief commissioner. I guess this last episode made her
consider that retiring was the best option for her - does anyone know how she ever got the position in the first
place? It must be a mellow athletic CIF section. I don't think she would have lasted six months as the chief
commissioner in the CIFSS!
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So, the Southern Section would not have forced all of the powerhouse private schools to play in the top division? Oh, wait...

The difference between the SS and many of the NorCal sections is that if someone gets caught doing something in the SS, they just forfeit a few games and that's the end of it. In NorCal, there are actual deterrents in place that help reduce the amount of underhanded things happening.

I'm with NorCalSportsFan, I don't especially see any difference between this forfeiture and any other except that the CCS would have collected whatever meager gate there may have been, while the individual schools would have eaten the costs in the regular season. The ban is not warranted and I think the comments from the SCVAL administrator is pretty hypocritical since his league didn't support the idea of the consolation games, either.

As much of the venom has been placed on Nancy, none of these concepts were hers in the first place. It's the board of managers that make these decisions. It's just up to Nancy to enforce them. If it's true that there were two concussions in the Valley Christian/Los Gatos game, then I could see Serra winning a lawsuit against the CCS, should they choose to take it that far.
 
Originally posted by NCSF:
Their choices on having an open division and consolation games showed horrible judgment. There's a reason why their commissioner is resigning sooner than later. There's no getting around it.
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The NCS doesn't have to deal with the same issues that the CCS does. There is only one true powerhouse private school in the NCS, while theirs an entire league of one in the CCS. The only comparable is in the SS, which handles these types of programs in the exact same way.
 
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