Week 2 of WCAL League Games

[Rmbr26]

SF at SHC 7PM Friday at Kezar = Winner SF 28-7
Mitty at Riordan 2PM Sat = Winner Riordan 20-14
S.I. at VC 6PM Sat = Winner VC 28-14
Bells at Serra 2:30 Sat = Winner Pick'em, Serra by 31-24 or Bells 24-20

3 games are fairly easy picks this week and the Serra-Bells game will answer many questions. Bells are a well disciplined team that executes very well while Serra is loaded with talent, but at times suffers too many mistakes/penalties. Bells have a good run game and if can control the clock could present the Padres with some problems. Serra must be able to establish the run early and not commit turnovers [ie: INT's].

 

[FBAddict]

SF at SHC 7PM Friday at Kezar = Winner SF 28-7
Mitty at Riordan 2PM Sat = Winner Riordan 20-14
S.I. at VC 6PM Sat = Winner VC 28-14
Bells at Serra 2:30 Sat = Winner Pick'em, Serra by 31-24 or Bells 24-20

3 games are fairly easy picks this week and the Serra-Bells game will answer many questions. Bells are a well disciplined team that executes very well while Serra is loaded with talent, but at times suffers too many mistakes/penalties. Bells have a good run game and if can control the clock could present the Padres with some problems. Serra must be able to establish the run early and not commit turnovers [ie: INT's].

Serra doesn't have much of resume this year. It is easy to think Bellarmine might challenge Serra. But if we are to consider the last 3 years of Serra's resume, Serra is the clear winner. I think the right approach is to isolate Bellarmine's resume to this year and allow Serra's resume to include the last three years. The theory is that Bellarmine is in the middle of changing itself to fit its talent and coaching and therefore needs the present year latitude to prove itself. Serra, on the other hand, has a multi-year coaching staff and also has a system that takes advantage of talent to produce on field results. So by allowing present year Bellarmine and multi-year Serra. I think we will see a pretty good game with Serra being the decisive winner in the 4th quarter, IMO.

 

[ArmchairGOAT]

Serra doesn't have much of resume this year. It is easy to think Bellarmine might challenge Serra. But if we are to consider the last 3 years of Serra's resume, Serra is the clear winner. I think the right approach is to isolate Bellarmine's resume to this year and allow Serra's resume to include the last three years. The theory is that Bellarmine is in the middle of changing itself to fit its talent and coaching and therefore needs the present year latitude to prove itself. Serra, on the other hand, has a multi-year coaching staff and also has a system that takes advantage of talent to produce on field results. So by allowing present year Bellarmine and multi-year Serra. I think we will see a pretty good game with Serra being the decisive winner in the 4th quarter, IMO.

Good points FBAddict. On the flip side, this is the first time Serra plays the Bells under its new coaching regime. The Bells’ philosophy is so different than Janda’s. Toss up for me. Should be a great game!

 

[FBAddict]

SF at SHC 7PM Friday at Kezar = Winner SF 28-7
Mitty at Riordan 2PM Sat = Winner Riordan 20-14
S.I. at VC 6PM Sat = Winner VC 28-14
Bells at Serra 2:30 Sat = Winner Pick'em, Serra by 31-24 or Bells 24-20

3 games are fairly easy picks this week and the Serra-Bells game will answer many questions. Bells are a well disciplined team that executes very well while Serra is loaded with talent, but at times suffers too many mistakes/penalties. Bells have a good run game and if can control the clock could present the Padres with some problems. Serra must be able to establish the run early and not commit turnovers [ie: INT's].

Valley Christian is the opposite of a "dark horse." I don't know what that is called, but I don't think its a "white horse." Is Scharrenberg no longer the team's DC? The last period of time VC was this weak on defense, Eric Scharrenberg had taken a few years off as the VC's DC. VC's coaching staff has a very long history of providing good mentoring for a team focused almost exclusively on the running game. This coaching style has met resistance with some of the WCAL teams, mainly Serra, who have put alot of effort into building a balanced duel threat offense. It appears VC staff has reluctantly modified VC's offense to better use player talent and compete with a decent air attack. But it is nearly a wash in outcome with VC's seemingly weak defense this year.

It appears VC is likely #4 or possibly even #5 in WCAL this year. Last week's game with SHC seems to support that opinion. I doubt, under present coaching decisions, VC can beat Serra or SF. And likely they will be highly challenged by Bellarmine. That puts them at #4. And if they lose to SI, VC will probably end up as # 5 in WCAL. If, however, they can solve their weak areas on defense, they could challenge for the top 3 placement in WCAL.

 

[colhenrylives]

Serra's special teams (kicker, returners, etc.) are again very good. That's an area (along with stellar team speed) that has to be worth 20 percent or so in the big picture. The Padres are a big-play team on offense, defense and special teams. Just when you think they've stalled, they haven't. One question Saturday: Will the Padres spread their offense around to take advantage of double-teams on Mahasin? They do have some other outstanding weapons. Over the last several years, Bellarmine has been shockingly mediocre, losing to Serra by a combined 176-13 over their prior four tests among other nightmares. Not so much now. The Bells have not traveled well during their period of travails. That should change Saturday. Anticipate a large gathering on West 20th Avenue. By the way, this year marks the 75th anniversary of the Serra-Bellarmine rivalry. So a bit of history is involved too. Incidentally, these two teams did scrimmage during the spring. The scrimmage was shown live on the internet. Bellarmine was still working out the kinks in their new offense and Serra was ready to roll from the outset. A pair of keys: Can the Bells keep that Serra offense off the field for most of the contest and can they get at least a draw on special teams? We'll see.

 

[colhenrylives]

For what it's worth, final WCAL frosh score today: Serra 35, Bellarmine 12.

 

[Irish_Cheers]

SHC vs. St. Francis will stream at this link at 7pm on Friday, October 1, 2021:
Irish vs. St. Francis at Kezar

 

[colhenrylives]

SHC vs. St. Francis will stream at this link at 7pm on Friday, October 1, 2021:
Irish vs. St. Francis at Kezar

Take a gander at the stable of mammoth St. Francis linemen. Humungous.

 

[WCAL75]

Take a gander at the stable of mammoth St. Francis linemen. Humungous.

DLS had problems with those lines and it opened up the run and passing game against DLS. And yes SF does have a passing game this year

 

[parkdale]

For what it's worth, final WCAL frosh score today: Serra 35, Bellarmine 12.

Freshmen results are significant ...moreso than JVs. And I think that to have consistency as a program, you need to stack one successful frosh team upon another, with not too many weak classes.

 

[colhenrylives]

For Bells at Serra Saturday, tickets will not be sold on site. Use the Serra website to purchase tickets in advance.

 

[padrewhipser]

Bells beat Serra, SF beats Bells, Serra beats SF. Tri champs

 

[WCAL75]

Final score is SF 37 SHC 13.

I have to say that SHC is the real deal. They were just worn out by the 4th quarter.

 

[Valley Boys]

Agreed. SHC certainly has some players. Unfortunately, many going both ways. All I can say is score was 16-13 with 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter.

 

[WCAL75]

Are there any stream links for the Serra/Bells game.

 

[Irish_Cheers]

Take a gander at the stable of mammoth St. Francis linemen.

Check the water down there.

 

[parkdale]

Are there any stream links for the Serra/Bells game.

Nfhs network

 

[ArmchairGOAT]

Audio stream only today.

 

[ArmchairGOAT]

Riordan 14 Mitty 7 Final
Crusader D preserves this penalty- filled game with 5 interceptions. (King Wilhite 2 ints, one called back TD)
Curtis Jones and Atu Kefu with the rushing TDs.

 

[SFcityfan]

Would anyone call Riordan the “dark horse”? Am I correct with WCAL standing and CCS seeding what is the count for league game wins to qualify for CCS?

 

[ArmchairGOAT]

Would anyone call Riordan the “dark horse”? Am I correct with WCAL standing and CCS seeding what is the count for league game wins to qualify for CCS?

Yes. Based on current win-loss record. Let’s be honest, though, non-league SOS was not that strong. Any win in the WCAL is good, but Mitty is just not that good this season. The opener against Bellarmine was not even close. Crusaders have some talent speed and size , but there are far too many penalties resulting in called back scores or extending the other team’s drives (unsportsmanlike, illegal motion, etc.).. The Offense runs basic plays since the departure of its OC Saunders to M-A and will need to add wrinkles and execute better if it is to get any more wins in league. SHC has been impressive in all their games even though they’ve been losses to good teams and is playing like a dark horse team right now. Lots of season left to see if this team builds off this win and improves and more importantly remains healthy.

 

[SFcityfan]

Yes. Based on current win-loss record. Let’s be honest, though, non-league SOS was not that strong. Any win in the WCAL is good, but Mitty is just not that good this season. The opener against Bellarmine was not even close. Crusaders have some talent speed and size , but there are far too many penalties resulting in called back scores or extending the other team’s drives (unsportsmanlike, illegal motion, etc.). This should have been cleaned up by now. and was called out by a Bellarmine tweet last week. The Offense runs basic plays since the departure of its OC Saunders to M-A making it easy for opponents to game plan and will have to add some wrinkles and simply execute if it is to get any more wins in league. SHC has been impressive in all their games even though they’ve been losses to good teams and is playing like a dark horse team right now. Lots of season left to see if this team builds off this win and improves and more importantly remains healthy.

Thank you,

I agree my granddaughters size and shape puzzles would be a challenge for the offensive game planned called.
But by WCAL/CCS seeding schedule?

The real questions is, how many games per league could place Riordan with an acceptable W/L record to place them “within” CCS seeding?

So to be more specific, “Is it one or two league games” ensure Riordan a sending in CCS?

 

[FBAddict]

Thank you,

I agree my granddaughters size and shape puzzles would be a challenge for the offensive game planned called.
But by WCAL/CCS seeding schedule?

The real questions is, how many games per league could place Riordan with an acceptable W/L record to place them “within” CCS seeding?

So to be more specific, “Is it one or two league games” ensure Riordan a sending in CCS?

There is no a precise number of wins to answer your question. The closest answer you have at this time is that Riordan must rank at least 6th in the WCAL league to even be considered. CCS mandates that there cannot be more than 6 teams from any one league in the playoffs.

Next, Riordan must be either one of the auto-qualifiers OR among the top 7 at-large CCS qualifiers. Riordan would need to rank at least #4 in WCAL to be an auto-qualifier. That's probably not going to happen.

To determine if Riordan will be among the top 7 at-large CCS teams, you need to break out your granddaughters' puzzle master calculator. You need to calculate the CCS points for all teams. You can shorten that process or gain an estimate of that placement by scanning all leagues, especially the A leagues, to rule out probable auto-qualifiers (top 4 teams in A leagues, top 2 teams in B leagues and top team in C leagues) I say especially A leagues because almost always the 7 At-Large qualifiers will come from among the A league teams. An exception will sometimes come from an unusually strong B league. After ruling out the probable auto qualifiers, compare the remaining top teams' CCS points.

We really need PalBooster right now. He has done the CCS calculating work and posted it here for 15 years plus. I have done this process before (ie 17-18 years ago) and it takes about 6 hours (at least me) each week after setting up the spreadsheet with relevant formulas. So I have a great appreciation for his work.

 

[SFcityfan]

There is no a precise number of wins to answer your question. The closest answer you have at this time is that Riordan must rank at least 6th in the WCAL league to even be considered. CCS mandates that there cannot be more than 6 teams from any one league in the playoffs.

Next, Riordan must be either one of the auto-qualifiers OR among the top 7 at-large CCS qualifiers. Riordan would need to rank at least #4 in WCAL to be an auto-qualifier. That's probably not going to happen.

To determine if Riordan will be among the top 7 at-large CCS teams, you need to break out your granddaughters' puzzle master calculator. You need to calculate the CCS points for all teams. You can shorten that process or gain an estimate of that placement by scanning all leagues, especially the A leagues, to rule out probable auto-qualifiers (top 4 teams in A leagues, top 2 teams in B leagues and top team in C leagues) I say especially A leagues because almost always the 7 At-Large qualifiers will come from among the A league teams. An exception will sometimes come from an unusually strong B league. After ruling out the probable auto qualifiers, compare the remaining top teams' CCS points.

We really need PalBooster right now. He has done the CCS calculating work and posted it here for 15 years plus. I have done this process before (ie 17-18 years ago) and it takes about 6 hours (at least me) each week after setting up the spreadsheet with relevant formulas. So I have a great appreciation for his work.

Thank you FBAddict,

With the low B level OCC schedule, it gets more complicated.

I am thinking of the Langridge years at Riordan to where he only schedules A level opponent’s to head into Tough WCAL league play and the season goal was to be the “Kings of Kezar“aka FB team of the City.

It seems even to me if R(oirdan)an the City that may be not enough.