NCS D2
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Despite the fact he was a phenomenal basketball player as an undersized guard, apparently you're not aware of him playing tennis in college, and what the guy can do on a golf course. Absolute freak. I 100% stand by my previous comment.
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Even though you didn't make my hoops list, you're #1 in my heart guru. lol Unfortunately I didn't start attending high school bball games until around 1998, I think that may have been just a bit after your time!
Quarterfinal scores:
#1 Bishop O’Dowd 74-# Bethel 52
#4 Redwood 58-#5 San Lorenzo 52
#2 Moreau Catholic 58-#10 Newark Memorial 52
#14 Las Lomas 49-#11 Tamalpais 45
Semifinal matchups (Wednesday at 7pm)
#4 Redwood at #1 Bishop O’Dowd
#14 Las Lomas at #2 Moreau Catholic
#1 Bishop O’Dowd 74-# Bethel 52
#4 Redwood 58-#5 San Lorenzo 52
#2 Moreau Catholic 58-#10 Newark Memorial 52
#14 Las Lomas 49-#11 Tamalpais 45
Semifinal matchups (Wednesday at 7pm)
#4 Redwood at #1 Bishop O’Dowd
#14 Las Lomas at #2 Moreau Catholic
I've liked this Redwood team all year but this is a big task. Would not be surprised to see it come down to the wire though. This will not be an easy game for Odowd.
Based on the competitive equity formula, both BOD and Moreau will both be moving up to D1 next season. BOD won last year (15 points) and played in the semis in 2017 (6 points) and this year (at least 6 points). Moreau won in 2017 (15) and lost in the semis last year (6).
Where is the formula posted?
What does it take for a team to drop down a division?
What does it take for a team to drop down a division?
http://www.prep2prep.com/feature.aspx?articleID=9983
So in other words, BOD and Moreau moving up next year means two teams with the lowest point total would drop down from D1. A quick look at D1 and the only team I see who hasn't at least gone to the playoffs in any of the last 3 years is American, so I'd make them a lock to go down.
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Cal High and SRV both needed to win their final game this year vs DLS & MV to make the playoffs, but both finished 1 game out of qualifying. Neither has made the NCS playoffs the last 3 years either.
If 2 are moving up to D1, I wonder how they determine which teams drop? What goes into “point totals”? Overall records? - Oh I see, the teams with the lower enrollments drop if none have any points. SRV has the lowest of the 3 with 2042, then American at 2450, and Cal is at 2771.
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If they go with an Open division, wouldn't that be done on a yearly basis? The placement into the divisions (and competitive equity) is an ongoing thing that wouldn't be subject to a team getting promoted and instantly relegated. Unless I'm missing something, there's no way BOD or Moreau can avoid getting put into D1 next year. I suspect that they'll have to tweak their formula for calculating promotion/relegation based on points earned in Open.
Ok got you. Just trying to figure all this.
So is it every 2 years they add up points and move teams up and down?
They're supposed to calculate it every year, but it's a 3 year average that results in promotion or relegation. So in other words, Salesian probably should have been pushed up to Division 2 this season, since they won Division 3 each of the last two years (15 points each, meaning even if they hadn't qualified for the playoffs this year their 3 year average would have been > 8), and I don't see how they won't get promoted to Division 2 next year after 3 years in Division 3. I suspect that for BOD and Moreau, the only way they could go back down would be to not earn 8 points over the next 3 seasons. Given those programs, it's hard to imagine them not making the playoffs every year (1 point each), so if they win at least 2 playoff games in that 3 year period (which also seems at least quite reasonable), they're likely to stay up.
If I were a betting man, I'd say that Salesian will be there in 3 more years, too. This competitive equity is likely to eventually do what most have wanted - force the private schools into one division.
Does anybody ever actually read the NCS' rules?
From above:
7. When a team is required to move to a higher division another team is in the higher division is moved down to the next lower division. The criteria to determine which team(s) to move down to the lower division will be as follows:
So yes, "just because two go up, it DOES necessarily mean two go down."
What division will las Lomas get into ? Div 2 or Div 3 . For cif nor cal . up 11 at Moreau w the ridiculous reffing. Where did this team come from? League record 3 wins none vs the top 4 teams
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Yeah the math doesn't add up with this LL team. I would not want to see them on my schedule. Were they missing players early on? Last year they graduated that great trio of guards so I expected a pretty big fall off.
Which is fine, of course, but if you don't actually know those rules, perhaps it might be best not to make statements of fact about them such as "...just because two go up does not necessarily mean two go down."
Easy easy buddy... this board is littered with opinion, conjecture and non factual info. I wasn’t making statement of fact, just said something wrong that I thought was the situation. I am sure you have never done that... thanks for correct info
New coaching staff and I suspect their system just took time to gel. I did hear they were beating Moreau Catholic until a scuffle broke out and LL was assessed three technicals (six free throws) for players leaving the bench which turned the game around. LL got a #2 seed in DIII so they might make another run....
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