Sheldon Devastated

[PacerLegend]

Sheldon was completely overmatched in a turnover uneven performance. My first view of Sheldon this season and difficult to format there play approach and probably not the best first game to review vs Sierra Canyon. Have watch many State Finals never seen a team get slam dunked on like Sheldon.

 

[Streak One]

I've seen some real dunk show in the finals. I don't think this is the worst

Sierra Canyon would be a tough matchup for anyone in the North. Hard to match their size and athleticism across the board. Sheldon didn't play their best game, but after watching SC, not sure it would have mattered

 

[nickdakoolkat04]

Makes no difference now, but I was looking forward to seeing how Salesian would of matched up against Sierra canyon. I think Sheldon has more talent than Salesian but, the pride play some of the best team defense. Either way Sierra canyon is very athletic, tough to match up.

 

[PacerLegend]

I've seen some real dunk show in the finals. I don't think this is the worst

Sierra Canyon would be a tough matchup for anyone in the North. Hard to match their size and athleticism across the board. Sheldon didn't play their best game, but after watching SC, not sure it would have mattered

 

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12 dunks Sierra 0 Sheldon
24 to zero. Never seen it this lopsided Streak

 

[FLAGRANT]

12 dunks Sierra 0 Sheldon
24 to zero. Never seen it this lopsided Streak

Where were the pacers tonight? Sheldon 3 NorCal championships

Grant -000000~

Never seen it that lop-sided

 

[youseechief]

Sierra Canyon was always going to win this. Wouldn’t matter who repped the North.

 

[FLAGRANT]

this is just uncalled for man, what does his opinion have to do with the team he likes

Clearly he has a issue understanding the game. Uneven turnover? Sheldon turned over SC 20 times. They were out rebounded a ton and shot 30 percent from the field.

 

[Streak One]

12 dunks Sierra 0 Sheldon
24 to zero. Never seen it this lopsided Streak

The game was I was thinking of was Chaminade ca Drake in 2014 I think.

 

[Marcskit]

The game was I was thinking of was Chaminade ca Drake in 2014 I think.

Nope. The worst was Dominguez vs Shasta. 1997. 85 - 52 - 33 point difference.
If there is a worse one, More's the pity.

Here's wishing you great hoops

 

[PacerLegend]

Where were the pacers tonight? Sheldon 3 NorCal championships

Grant -000000~

Never seen it that lop-sided

 

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Grant 2 NorCal titles 1996 & 1999

 

[Streak One]

Nope. The worst was Dominguez vs Shasta. 1997. 85 - 52 - 33 point difference.
If there is a worse one, More's the pity.

Here's wishing you great hoops

I was thinking of dunk games I saw. There have been some big point spreads too.

 

[larry legend33]

Think about this... The worse player on the floor at times last night for SC is Scotty Pippen kid who is going to Vandy. The Fresh they brought off the bench is a human highlight film. The talent difference was so lopsided. Doesn't matter if it was Salesian, MC, or Sheldon. I was hoping for a better game but it became clear pretty fast that it was going to be a long night.

If you look at the SCAL Open Bracket there are literally 5-6 teams that are better than any team from the north. This was SC easiest game since round 1. Not a knock on Sheldon but a fact.

I was impressed about how much guys like Stanley and Martin have improved there games since last year. Stanley has a nice shot now and he obviously put in a lot of time in the gym. In today's game you have to be able to shoot. SC was almost taunting guys into shooting at times for Sheldon. At 6"2-6"3 you aren't going to be able to score at the rim against 6"9+ guys.

Campo stole the show this weekend. Streak you predicted it.

 

[FLAGRANT]

Grant 2 NorCal titles 1996 & 1999

Nice! You forgot to answer my other question though. Where were the pacers last night?

 

[larry legend33]

Nice! You forgot to answer my other question though. Where were the pacers last night?

Pacers had more talent than Campo but couldn't sniff them in the execution department. This was Grant's year and in hindsight pretty disappointing if you look at there roster and who was returning.

 

[coachlittle]

This was SC easiest game since round 1. Not a knock on Sheldon

 

[FLAGRANT]

Pacers had more talent than Campo but couldn't sniff them in the execution department. This was Grant's year and in hindsight pretty disappointing if you look at there roster and who was returning.

Agreed. Sierra Canyon is a different kind of beast. The talent is unreal along with the size and strength. The defense was extremely hard to get a shot off for Sheldon. Even transition lay-ups were chase down blocks. From what I watched, Sheldon played zone, man and even pressed. Played a bunch of guys, but SC is just on another level this year. They were very good last year, now add 2 7 footers, the best freshmen in HS hoops plus Terran Frank- the most underrated player they have. But is still a division 1 guy.

Sheldon was the best team in Nor Cal no doubt but SC controlled every aspect in that game. Sheldon returns a TON next year. I’m sure they are back for the 4th time.

 

[PacerLegend]

Nice! You forgot to answer my other question though. Where were the pacers last night?

The Pacers lost in the semis to eventual State Champ Campolindo in a far more competitive game than Sheldon/Sierra Canyon.
No knock on Sheldon they picked the wrong time to have there worse game. All those dunks by SC means no rim protection. I respect Sheldon's accomplishments just expected a better performance since I have not seen them play until last night.

 

[iamgearyblvd]

I mean, that Cassius Stanley fast break reverse dunk... my goodness.

 

[FLAGRANT]

The Pacers lost in the semis to eventual State Champ Campolindo in a far more competitive game than Sheldon/Sierra Canyon.
No knock on Sheldon they picked the wrong time to have there worse game. All those dunks by SC means no rim protection. I respect Sheldon's accomplishments just expected a better performance since I have not seen them play until last night.

Sheldon has a 6”11 kid in street clothes that is going to Long Beach. That avg about 5 blocks a game. That could help with rim protection. Wouldn’t have made a difference, Grant lost AT Home vs Weston ranch, who lost first round to De La by 20. In which De La lost to Sheldon by 10. There’s levels to this. Sheldon is far above grant/campo as SC is far above Sheldon. The fact that both teams made a back 2 back appearance in the Open speaks to where the level these teams are on.

 

[larry legend33]

I mean, that Cassius Stanley fast break reverse dunk... my goodness.

Yeah I know... Just not fair. But I still think the best team I've ever seen was Artesia HS in 2006 with James Harden, Derek Glasser, Renardo Sidney, Malik Story, and a cast of others. They went 33-1 and absolutely destroyed a very good St Mary's of Stockton team that had at least 2 D1 players themselves.

Harden was a MCD All American that year and 2 years later so was Sidney. Sidney at 6"10 was one of the most gifted players I've seen as a soph. He never improved and gained a ton of weight before fizzling out at Miss State. Glasser who was highly underrated is one of the all time best PG's to play at ASU. Story went on to play at Indiana before transferring to UNR but was originally a USC commit.

Stanley for SC and the Fresh kid could be future pro's. Stanley certainly looks the part and he plays within the game. I like that about him. He doesn't force action. Martin is an undersized 6"6 jumping jack. But he isn't very skilled outside of 10 feet. Yeah he dunks and is fun to watch but basketball wise it doesn't translate that well. Pippen is no scotty but I nice PG and will do fine in college.

 

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Sheldon has a 6”11 kid in street clothes that is going to Long Beach. That avg about 5 blocks a game. That could help with rim protection. Wouldn’t have made a difference, Grant lost AT Home vs Weston ranch, who lost first round to De La by 20. In which De La lost to Sheldon by 10. There’s levels to this. Sheldon is far above grant/campo as SC is far above Sheldon. The fact that both teams made a back 2 back appearance in the Open speaks to where the level these teams are on.

Sheldon losing to Sierra does not lessen there solid season with Section and NorCal titles. Sheldon allowing the SC dunk festival was out of character.

 

[da real]

Scottie Pippen sr. Grew up 6-1 to 6-8 after high school. If jr has a growth spurt he could be a pro too.

 

[FLAGRANT]

Scottie Pippen sr. Grew up 6-1 to 6-8 after high school. If jr has a growth spurt he could be a pro too.

The only starters you can count on not making the league are koloko and Frank. But both will be high D1 players. If they play at the college of choice who knows. But the rest have great potential. 4 years for Scottie p at Vandy. Who knows

 

[da real]

The talent gap between teams in the north and south seems to be widening.

Of the norcal state teams, how many seniors are signed to a divison 1 program? The big man from Sheldon . Anyone else?

Regardless of class, how many players have division 1 offers? Bagley? The freshmen from Campo?

 

[Marcskit]

The talent gap between teams in the north and south seems to be widening.

Of the norcal state teams, how many seniors are signed to a divison 1 program? The big man from Sheldon . Anyone else?

Regardless of class, how many players have division 1 offers? Bagley? The freshmen from Campo?

Folks, unless we quadruple the population up here, it is pretty much going to be this way. I suggest we don't fret about it to much. When we win, it is that much sweeter.

Here's wishing you great hoops

 

[luzgary]

Maybe if Sheldon had a 9th transfer, it might have made a difference!

 

[tombraider21]

Maybe if Sheldon had a 9th transfer, it might have made a difference!

True. I am not knocking how good Sheldon was, but the same people talking up Sheldon are the same people ripping Folsom for transfers and "out of the area kids." Meanwhile, an entire squad of Sheldon basketball players are from nowhere near Elk Grove, or at least not in the Sheldon limits. True story and pretty ironic.

 

[DonniePeckerwood]

Think about this... The worse player on the floor at times last night for SC is Scotty Pippen kid who is going to Vandy. The Fresh they brought off the bench is a human highlight film. The talent difference was so lopsided. Doesn't matter if it was Salesian, MC, or Sheldon. I was hoping for a better game but it became clear pretty fast that it was going to be a long night.



If you look at the SCAL Open Bracket there are literally 5-6 teams that are better than any team from the north. This was SC easiest game since round 1. Not a knock on Sheldon but a fact.

I was impressed about how much guys like Stanley and Martin have improved there games since last year. Stanley has a nice shot now and he obviously put in a lot of time in the gym. In today's game you have to be able to shoot. SC was almost taunting guys into shooting at times for Sheldon. At 6"2-6"3 you aren't going to be able to score at the rim against 6"9+ guys.

Campo stole the show this weekend. Streak you predicted it.

I'd take it even further and say the 10 best teams from socal were probably better than Sheldon. If I had to put money on it I'd take Chino Hills over sheldon if they played each other.

 

[DonniePeckerwood]

True. I am not knocking how good Sheldon was, but the same people talking up Sheldon are the same people ripping Folsom for transfers and "out of the area kids." Meanwhile, an entire squad of Sheldon basketball players are from nowhere near Elk Grove, or at least not in the Sheldon limits. True story and pretty ironic.

Got it, I was wondering how that operation worked. The pipeline apparently is strong! What's the deal with the "dark days" in that section/area right before the season starts?

 

[iamgearyblvd]

Im curious to be enlightened about how much financial aid some of the Sierra Canyon players get. It's $37,700 for this calendar year. For students like Pippen and Martin, I dont think their parents have any problems paying that. But for the other players who didnt have NBA dads, just very curious.

 

[FLAGRANT]

I'd take it even further and say the 10 best teams from socal were probably better than Sheldon. If I had to put money on it I'd take Chino Hills over sheldon if they played each other.

Not close. Sheldon already beat Bishop mont, they are top 5 in so-cal. SC is/was the best team in so cal by 10 plus.

 

[observer22]

Sheldon was the best team in Nor Cal no doubt but SC controlled every aspect in that game. Sheldon returns a TON next year. I’m sure they are back for the 4th time.

Sheldon won the NorCal Open no doubt, but Salesian had a pretty darn good team this year, and they beat Sheldon head to head. So an argument could be made, but Sheldon won when it counted before last night and got the hardware. Campo has a state title and a nice win over Modesto Christian this year as well.

 

[DonniePeckerwood]

Not close. Sheldon already beat Bishop mont, they are top 5 in so-cal. SC is/was the best team in so cal by 10 plus.

By that line of reasoning Salesian is the best in Norcal and top 5 team in socal too because "they already beat Sheldon by 20"

 

[FLAGRANT]

By that line of reasoning Salesian is the best in Norcal and top 5 team in socal too because "they already beat Sheldon by 20"

Hey genius you know Salesian was ranked # 1 in NorCal right? It’s like you have to be this tall to ride this ride we need a limit on posting requirements.

Sheldon came in as the 2 seed.

 

[larry legend33]

Sheldon will be right back but Mater Dei will be even better so expect the same type of blowout in the open. But Marceski is right in terms of population base. Its a numbers games. Overall the North didn't do that bad when you include the ladies.
Sierra Canyon had Sheldon scouted well. They had a good game plan and executed. They actually played pretty sloppy early on and if they came out dialed in it could have been worse.

I would rank the top 5 state as follows.

1. Sierra Canyon
2. Mater Dei
3. Fairfax
4. Salesian
5. Sheldon/Westchester /Centennial (all bunched)

Salesian would have played a tighter game because they are so stingy with the ball but I don't think the outcome would be all that different.

 

[larry legend33]

Im curious to be enlightened about how much financial aid some of the Sierra Canyon players get. It's $37,700 for this calendar year. For students like Pippen and Martin, I dont think their parents have any problems paying that. But for the other players who didnt have NBA dads, just very curious.

You ever work with or know some really rich people? They are typically the cheapest bastards around. I wouldn't be surprised if Pippen or Martins kids are getting some "assistance" as a marketing token. There are 10 kids on the bench that pay everybody else is way. Same thing at all these prep schools and factories. Trust me your gut is right. Its a dirty game.

 

[FLAGRANT]

Sheldon will be right back but Mater Dei will be even better so expect the same type of blowout in the open. But Marceski is right in terms of population base. Its a numbers games. Overall the North didn't do that bad when you include the ladies.
Sierra Canyon had Sheldon scouted well. They had a good game plan and executed. They actually played pretty sloppy early on and if they came out dialed in it could have been worse.

I would rank the top 5 state as follows.

1. Sierra Canyon
2. Mater Dei
3. Fairfax
4. Salesian
5. Sheldon/Westchester /Centennial (all bunched)

Salesian would have played a tighter game because they are so stingy with the ball but I don't think the outcome would be all that different.

Agree with that, throw Rancho Christian in that line up.

 

[laidbackcoach]

Damn Larry Legend that is pretty cold. I know some rich people that are pretty damn generous with their $$ and if you do not know Pippen or Martin personally I do not know how you can speculate that just based on your personal views about rich folks. Plus if you have $$ and your kid gets offered a schollie are you supposed to turn it down. If the USA goes with AOC socialism maybe But otherwise. . . not so sure.

Now, back to hoops. The truth is that Sheldon is a much better defensive team with Josh Morgan playing. Not saying they would have beat SC with him, and I doubt they would have, but in my opinion, they would not have been as nearly overmatched.