You could be right. I know absolutely nothing about the new head coach at folsom and what he brings to the table. Im curious to see if he does as well as the new head coach at del oro. That program/community has impressed me over the years, winning no matter who was in charge. Will folsoms new coach maintain that winning tradition, fall off, or take it to another level? We will find out in a couple of months. Outside of sta, i could see cvc giving them another good game based on their style of football. buchanan played dls tough, but that doesn't mean they beat folsom. St marys yes i could see that one. They were the last section team to beat folsom and based on their scheduling they dont appear to be affraid of anyone.
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Dude. There’re playing STA. It doesn’t get much more elite than that. Last year it was Folsom and Gorman. It’s not just DLS making the schedule. There’s other team making their own schedules. Things have to line up. I know for a fact DLS put in a lot of effort to ink that STA game. Maybe that’s why the schedule is as “weak” as you’re claiming.
When Folsom plays a team even remotely close to their level they either lose , barely win, or win in OT.
DLS could shut out Whitney, Antelope, Rocklin, DO, Grant, and Jesuit. DLS has already shut out or came close to shutting out 2 of those better teams, and they actually shut out Folsom. If DLS keeps their starters in the whole game, they could shut these teams out. I look at that Folsom schedule....DLS would give up around 50-60 points the entire season to those teams while scoring 450-500. Maybe more.
In my opinion, DLS’s defense will be good this year. If the new LBs can step up at all, they’ll be close to last year. Because In my opinion, they’ll be as good at every other position. By playoff time comes with some seasoning they’ll be just fine.
Sacchief,
Exactly. The only team that I’m 100% convinced would beat Folsom is STA. DLS is a close second. But after that, Folsom could win out from there. I just think that Folsom will have a little of a down year (for them) and these other teams are trending up. At this point, without seeing any teams play, I wouldn’t be surprised if Folsom lost a close one to Buchanan, St. Mary’s, CC, or St. Francis. The good news it that the season is getting close so it can be settled on the field.
Exactly. The only team that I’m 100% convinced would beat Folsom is STA. DLS is a close second. But after that, Folsom could win out from there. I just think that Folsom will have a little of a down year (for them) and these other teams are trending up. At this point, without seeing any teams play, I wouldn’t be surprised if Folsom lost a close one to Buchanan, St. Mary’s, CC, or St. Francis. The good news it that the season is getting close so it can be settled on the field.
“Dude”, I did not claim the DLS schedule was “weak”. You attempt to quote me but I never posted that.
You are the one who on one hand said DLS will usually schedule 1-3 elite teams. When asked which teams besides STA were elite, you said just 1 this year because of the changes on defense. Then you said DLS would seriously shut out 5-6 teams on Folsom’s schedule. When asked which teams, you responded with the teams (which was appreciated), seriously would became could. That’s a big difference. I agree they “could” shut out a lot of teams even on their own schedule.
I think it’s comical all the Folsom schedule bashing that goes on here, but do agree they could step it up. I try not to bash teams or posters, but do look for accuracy and consistency in posts.
In no way do I think DLS’ schedule is “weak”. Could they add some more elite teams in a season where they look to be very strong even by Spartan standards? Yes, but that was kind of Sacchiefs point in comparing the schedules to begin with.
IMO dls schedule is head and shoulders above Folsom’s. That’s my opinion. My question to sacchiefs is in post #16 he says dls plays one elite team in sta but no one else elite. In post #19 he says he considers Folsom elite. Last I checked Folsom and dls will play on September 13th. I can name at least 7 teams on dls schedule as good or better then any team on Folsom’s. To me that’s a much better schedule. I’m not saying they should go after SJB, MD, CC. They would get throttled. Plus if they beat dls they will play the best of those three at state anyway. But why not go after a MV or OC?
This Mic drop thing is so funny fellas! I work with high schoolers and to think how funny it would be if i were to say "mic dropped" after making a point to them. The reaction would be so epic and classic! Anyways 89 you make valid points and i believe we are on the same page. I agree with your concerns about how folsom has scheduled over the years. Being called Paper champs, the folsom rule, not responding to elite teams that called them out, etc, etc. I am totally aware of the issues consistently being addressed by multiple posters. My focus 89 is not to challenge these posters because to me their concerns are valid. My point which i will now move on from, before someone else decides to Mic drop mewas to point out that both teams scheduled pretty consistent this year(this is usually not the case tho). So why dls got a pass and folsom did not idk but i thought id comment on it. Point taken from the "mic drop" crew! Ill move on but no pass from me
Ha!!!... Yes, My "Mic Drop" was over the top and all in fun, and you defiantly made some valid points regarding the schedules! So here is why DLS gets a "Pass" from me on their "Folsom Like" Schedule for 2019:
STA- Weak 0, National Top 25 Game on ESPN... STA will be favored in this game...
Folsom- Week 3- By many Posters standards and the Cal Preps Computer Rankings, Folsom is an "Elite" team, as a matter of Fact they were like #5 in CA and Nationally ranked by Cal Preps last year. They are the 2 time Defending 1-AA Champs with Multiple Highly Rated D1 Recruits and will be the favorite to beat DLS when they play.
Open Bowl Game- DLS will play a National top 5 Team in this game and be a huge underdog.
So that would be 3 "Elite" teams that DLS will play this year. For that reason they get a Pass from me...
Since Folsom Fans like to Cite "Cal Preps" when discussing Folsom's lofty Rankings, etc., we can take it another level and look at how the schedules compare with Cal Preps Rankings for the "Voluntarily" Scheduled Games.
DLS- #3 Team in FL (STA), CA #8 (Folsom), #23 (Buchannon), #25 (Modesto CC), #36 (St. Mary's), #63 (St. Francis)... So 4 games Voluntarily Scheduled against teams ranking in the CA top 25 or better (Including STA) with a 5th game against #36 and 6th game against #63...
Folsom- CA #5 (DLS), #31 (MA), #177 (Jesuit) and #185 (Antelope)... So that is 1 game Voluntarily Scheduled against CA top 25 Teams, 1 game against a Top 40 team and their other 2 Voluntarily scheduled games are against teams ranked #170 or worse in CA...
So I would guess that Everyone else but you is giving DLS a "Pass" based on them scheduling 4 games against CA top 25 (Including the STA Game) where Folsom has just 1 (DLS)....
If you want to throw in League Games, here you go:
DLS- #58 (Monte Vista), #77 (Cal), #111 (CVC), #118 (SRV)- For their full schedule only 2 teams #100 or worse and no team rated worse then #118...
Folsom- #46 (DO), #112 (Oak Ridge), #182 (Granite Bay) #201 (Grant), #234 (Rocklin), #400 (Whitney)... 2 Teams #100 or Worse, 2 Teams #200 or Worse and 1 Team #400 or worse...
Like another Poster said, these Schedules are not even close, DLS doesn't need a "Pass" they deserve Kudos for another highly challenging Schedule...
Ok. Fair enough. If I misrepresented what you said then I sincerely apologize.
DLS has one elite game this year. But I still think that they’ll have a strong defense even with the turnover. Perhaps the coaches don’t feel the same as I do.
To play a bunch of elite games, ya gotta have depth. I think DLS will be strong with their starting 22 and with their skill player depth. But their DL/OL/LB depth is a little unknown at this point. I personally think that they could throw say an elite AZ team in the schedule. But that’s just me.
Honestly, their respective schedules aren’t THAT much different minus STA. Folsom has some good NorCal games, DLS’s NorCal games are really good.
Edit: but as you can see, OC is showing some serious differences.
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You’re bringin’ it, brah!!Ha!!!... Yes, My "Mic Drop" was over the top and all in fun, and you defiantly made some valid points regarding the schedules! So here is why DLS gets a "Pass" from me on their "Folsom Like" Schedule for 2019:
STA- Weak 0, National Top 25 Game on ESPN... STA will be favored in this game...
Folsom- Week 3- By many Posters standards and the Cal Preps Computer Rankings, Folsom is an "Elite" team, as a matter of Fact they were like #5 in CA and Nationally ranked by Cal Preps last year. They are the 2 time Defending 1-AA Champs with Multiple Highly Rated D1 Recruits and will be the favorite to beat DLS when they play.
Open Bowl Game- DLS will play a National top 5 Team in this game and be a huge underdog.
So that would be 3 "Elite" teams that DLS will play this year. For that reason they get a Pass from me...
Since Folsom Fans like to Cite "Cal Preps" when discussing Folsom's lofty Rankings, etc., we can take it another level and look at how the schedules compare with Cal Preps Rankings for the "Voluntarily" Scheduled Games.
DLS- #3 Team in FL (STA), CA #8 (Folsom), #23 (Buchannon), #25 (Modesto CC), #36 (St. Mary's), #63 (St. Francis)... So 4 games Voluntarily Scheduled against teams ranking in the CA top 25 or better (Including STA) with a 5th game against #36 and 6th game against #63...
Folsom- CA #5 (DLS), #31 (MA), #177 (Jesuit) and #185 (Antelope)... So that is 1 game Voluntarily Scheduled against CA top 25 Teams, 1 game against a Top 40 team and their other 2 Voluntarily scheduled games are against teams ranked #170 or worse in CA...
So I would guess that Everyone else but you is giving DLS a "Pass" based on them scheduling 4 games against CA top 25 (Including the STA Game) where Folsom has just 1 (DLS)....
If you want to throw in League Games, here you go:
DLS- #58 (Monte Vista), #77 (Cal), #111 (CVC), #118 (SRV)- For their full schedule only 2 teams #100 or worse and no team rated worse then #118...
Folsom- #46 (DO), #112 (Oak Ridge), #182 (Granite Bay) #201 (Grant), #234 (Rocklin), #400 (Whitney)... 2 Teams #100 or Worse, 2 Teams #200 or Worse and 1 Team #400 or worse...
Like another Poster said, these Schedules are not even close, DLS doesn't need a "Pass" they deserve Kudos for another highly challenging Schedule...
Wow! Not to be corny but i had no idea all this time that are posts are numbered! Thx Humbab for that info. It made it easy to see what you were referring to. One of these days i will take sometime to explore all the functions of this site. So,,, You officially didnt finish asking me your question. Ill assume where you were going with it, but please re-read both post first, esp 19 where i clarified my position and why.
Is that how you feel? Good post! Glad to see you doing your homework! No mic drop tho? Real talk, we started our summer school session today and i was so tempted fellas to use the mic drop line on a few of my students but I just couldnt keep a straight face. Whenever i finally do ill share the experience. But 89, when i first took a look at the dls schedule, honestly i could care less until the compliments started coming in about how good it was. i tried to see it from the folsom mindset. For years weve heard, folsom is no good, they dont play anyone, paper champs, they schedule winnable teams, etc. Those are opinions and its totally A-okay with me! The problem i kinda saw was why if The so called competition from the sac-joaquin section isnt very impressive to a lot of posters over the years, why all of a sudden the attitude change after dls filled 3 of their 5 open preseason spots with sac-joaquin teams? Someone please do the math on that (somewhere around 30 percent of the entire schedule and 60 percent of there preseason schedule). I wasnt very impressed with this and it kinda threw me off. I was also suprised to see, even tho the teams on the dls schedule have a good win/lose record, the teams that those teams beat werent very good. San ramon won 9 games last year with only 3 teams having a winning record. Monte vista also stuck out. Regarding league opponents this was a consistent theme, minus cal who i initially overlooked for san ramon because of the section title, but was pleasantly suprised at some good wins they had. St francis, good program on the rise but i just dont understand the "loser advance" in the playoff stuff or else id be more high on them this year. Buchanan 10 win season but outside of having a 5 star running back, im not sure what am i missing about this program or why they were even initially placed on the schedule last year when they havent been very good in the past. So all in all, my observation which i feel maybe i stand alone on, the dls schedule just doesnt jump out to me, making it comparable this year to folsom because i feel they play in a better league to me. Antelope and jesuit maybe nothing special but they are good programs. When i compare the teams on both schedules and match them up against each other, the teams on the dls schedule should win 6 out 10 games from the teams on the folsom schedule. I just feel thats makes them a lot closer than initially thought. So Take the make up off and she just doesnt turn me on. Sorry but thats me and how i feel, right or wrong. Btw spantanzrule, common brotha dont switch it up on me! i like your other catchphase better!!Ha!!!... Yes, My "Mic Drop" was over the top and all in fun, and you defiantly made some valid points regarding the schedules! So here is why DLS gets a "Pass" from me on their "Folsom Like" Schedule for 2019:
STA- Weak 0, National Top 25 Game on ESPN... STA will be favored in this game...
Folsom- Week 3- By many Posters standards and the Cal Preps Computer Rankings, Folsom is an "Elite" team, as a matter of Fact they were like #5 in CA and Nationally ranked by Cal Preps last year. They are the 2 time Defending 1-AA Champs with Multiple Highly Rated D1 Recruits and will be the favorite to beat DLS when they play.
Open Bowl Game- DLS will play a National top 5 Team in this game and be a huge underdog.
So that would be 3 "Elite" teams that DLS will play this year. For that reason they get a Pass from me...
Since Folsom Fans like to Cite "Cal Preps" when discussing Folsom's lofty Rankings, etc., we can take it another level and look at how the schedules compare with Cal Preps Rankings for the "Voluntarily" Scheduled Games.
DLS- #3 Team in FL (STA), CA #8 (Folsom), #23 (Buchannon), #25 (Modesto CC), #36 (St. Mary's), #63 (St. Francis)... So 4 games Voluntarily Scheduled against teams ranking in the CA top 25 or better (Including STA) with a 5th game against #36 and 6th game against #63...
Folsom- CA #5 (DLS), #31 (MA), #177 (Jesuit) and #185 (Antelope)... So that is 1 game Voluntarily Scheduled against CA top 25 Teams, 1 game against a Top 40 team and their other 2 Voluntarily scheduled games are against teams ranked #170 or worse in CA...
So I would guess that Everyone else but you is giving DLS a "Pass" based on them scheduling 4 games against CA top 25 (Including the STA Game) where Folsom has just 1 (DLS)....
If you want to throw in League Games, here you go:
DLS- #58 (Monte Vista), #77 (Cal), #111 (CVC), #118 (SRV)- For their full schedule only 2 teams #100 or worse and no team rated worse then #118...
Folsom- #46 (DO), #112 (Oak Ridge), #182 (Granite Bay) #201 (Grant), #234 (Rocklin), #400 (Whitney)... 2 Teams #100 or Worse, 2 Teams #200 or Worse and 1 Team #400 or worse...
Like another Poster said, these Schedules are not even close, DLS doesn't need a "Pass" they deserve Kudos for another highly challenging Schedule...
All I was trying to say is if YOU consider Folsom an elite team then why are you not giving dls credit for playing 2 elite teams? DLS is playing some of the best NorCal has to offer. Folsom is NOT. And the reason Buchanan was on there schedule was because the game against East UT (another elite team) Fell through and they had to scramble to fill a spot. Kudos to Buchanan for stepping up and giving them a hell of a fight. Some feel a better fight then Folsom. If your okay with Folsom’s schedule then fine, no problem. But to try and compare it to DLS is ridiculous. Folsom’s toughest opponent besides Dls is probably MA. That’s not living dangerously at all.
Humbab,
There has been a long debate on here for years (and i mean years!) whether or not folsom is elite(?). Way too many valid points on both sides, so to avoid that crazy debate i didnt address them as elite but i did express where i see them. Do they play an elite schedule? No! Why? Idk but ive always been curious why they dont. Do i wish they would step it up? Yes! Dls playing folsom is good for norcal, 1 vs 2 even tho it hasnt been much of a competition minus last year. So i feel both teams scheduled 9 winnable games with one true test. Outside of last year, folsom has never put one bit of pressure on dls. Im so happy they will be playing (and i will be there again sitting on the dls side around the 50 yard line rooting for folsom) but if im dls, outside of wanting to put my foot on folsoms neck to show them who daddy is in norcal! thats not a game they feel they should be overly worried about. Could Folsom win? Of course, but im not worried about a team ive never lost to (you should still respect them tho) . Major kudos to coach al and coach richardson for making this series happen, but id assume dls isnt overly concerned with losing to folsom. They have way too much game experience and film playing a similar style of offense in centennial. So mr. humbab, i just dont find it ridiculous that both teams scheduled 9 games that are winnable to their respective program. That brings me to east of utah. Question,,, does east beating dls make them elite to you? Just curious thats all. Btw good discussion and thx for your input
dLS gets STA because it’s televised! Lopoz knows that’s essentially the only (super subsidized) way he can get a pre-season elite game; and the families demand it. The cost of 60 players, two nights and airfare would simply bust the budget of “non-elite” teams. Every other away is a bus ride. If Nike-Paragon-ESPN didn’t have DLS in their back pockets? The in-state bus away games ARE pretty good.
Passing tourney at DLS tomorrow morning Sat/22 at 8am. Looking forward to it. Anyone else going?
Serra - Has a QB that looks the part but was inconsistent. #2 QB had a little more success in what I saw but not the same athlete. Nice athletes but no one person stood out like years past.
Pittsburg- QB 1&2 are raw and need work. They have a couple of really nice athletes and LB that looked like a stud.
De La Salle - looks improved in the pass game but was also inconsistent overthrowing open receivers. Athletes at every position as you would imagine.
Cardinal Newman- QB 1 looked impressive in games vs DLS and Pittsburg. WR had a strong day winning 50/50 balls. QBs 2&3 had moderate success in limited opportunities.
Keeping in mind this is only 7x7 I would have ranked them
1. CN
2. DLS
3. Pitt
4. Serra
Pittsburg- QB 1&2 are raw and need work. They have a couple of really nice athletes and LB that looked like a stud.
De La Salle - looks improved in the pass game but was also inconsistent overthrowing open receivers. Athletes at every position as you would imagine.
Cardinal Newman- QB 1 looked impressive in games vs DLS and Pittsburg. WR had a strong day winning 50/50 balls. QBs 2&3 had moderate success in limited opportunities.
Keeping in mind this is only 7x7 I would have ranked them
1. CN
2. DLS
3. Pitt
4. Serra
