These are competitive bowl games, nothing more. I think we need to have a losers bowl series as well. Kind of like the worst of the worst, that would be entertaining. Team #1047 vs #1046. Just have bottom 20 Teams in a series of bowls. Now that's equitable.
These are state championship games in 15 divisions. You don't have to like what they're called, but it's the CIF's game. They're the hosts, so they get to call them whatever they want. At the end of each, the winner gets a trophy that says "state champs" and the school can elect to hang a banner that says the same.
Gotta agree here,and I'm a NorCal guy. But nothing wrong mentioning the smaller school winners of the SBG. Everyone knows those aren't the featured games
My problem with the thread title is that it was an attempt to provide a referendum on the football savvy of the North vs South. In that context the thread title was extremely misleading.
I don't think any harm was meant. The bigger school games, which the CIF features, are given more exposure . The smaller school games simply don't get nearly as much exposure, that's all. The South dominated the bigger school games. Period.
I thinks that is why they are called division 5-AA or 6-A instead of No-D-ABC or No-D-CBA
Why would one need to come from North and South? Why not just pick the two best period if that is what would/could be done?
Everything has to make logistical sense. Who would you have chosen as the #2 team? Servite? MD already beat them twice and the second game wasn't close. St. John Bosco? The team that lost to Servite in the SS playoffs and to MD in the regular season by 21? Centennial? Aren't you one of those bitching about playoff losers moving on to other games?
I’m not for losers moving on that has been clear. And I have spoken about retooling the playoff system to have truly the best teams represent in these bowl games. It is ridiculous to ask how or who it would have been this season for example because again I view current system as flawed. So no it wouldn’t be a case where a third game with team A or B or a loser advances. It very well could mean that one of those teams however is in the final but who knows? But that matchup would be in the open bowl game after earning it. In other words create a state wide open tournament, and play it out. Create a 4,6,8 team bracket and play it out. I know this much that Serra team wouldn’t have sniffed a open title game. Now in terms of Norcal perceived Dominance of lower division games, that is a product again of a flawed system where the lower division teams in SoCal get forced into divisions they don’t belong in. Again Aquinas is a great example D6 or 7 program who has been forced to play D2 and I think D3 in this years SBG series. It’s a school of 500 coed for crying out loud. And everybody else moves up accordingly which is how you end up with teams like Taft in bowl games.
Aquinas, a private with 500? Who do you want? Central Catholic Modesto? Marin Catholic? Don’t think so! How about Argonaut, a small public of 450 coed that just kicked the teeth in on a 3000 coed Quartz Hill? Think again.
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I guess point sales right over you it’s ok seems to be a common issue on this board.
Balance? Look at the strength of schedule disparity. This of course will not resonate here on these boards, but it points to level on competition being played between two regions.it is interesting that while SoCal only wins 5 of 15 games, they win top 5 divisions. Look at MaxPrep final top 25, 4 teams from NorCal with highest being Serra at 10. That does not equate to NorCal dominance in state games… balance is off somewhere
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This is comical.I tell you what if there ever was a situation where socal top 50 ranked played NorCal top 50 it would get ugly for NorCal quickly.You know this so stop with the “normal “ team BS.At the moment the way the sections have their playoff favors NorCal it’s not a big deal just fact
Sammy, don't be upset because NorCal leads the all time SBG series. It's ok. Just tell your SoCal brethren to use it as fuel to better themselves.
What's misleading about the title of the Thread? Is that not the actual final tally?
Why is it that it's only the NCS people who complain that enrollment-based divisions are going away?
Tons of people are complaining that the divisions have no enrollment factor. Pretty much all of them are coming from NCS people because those programs have benefited from enrollment for years.
I only care about the top 2 maybe 3 (some years) SBG. Don't have any interest in flag football or D-something matches.
That may be true. It’s really not a topic I pay a whole lot of attention to as an NCS guy. There must be tons of others that do.
