Bellarmine in dire straits

[colhenrylives]

The Jesuit nightmare in San Jose persists. Bellarmine football is in freefall. The winless (0-6) Bells, once a premier NorCal program dating back to the Great Depression, have been outscored in their three WCAL games, 115-7. They are on track to finish the 2024 season 1-9 or 0-10. Either record would mark the most losses in the school's long history. They were 2-8 last year. The eight defeats are a current record. The one chance for a win they would seem to have this season would be versus Sacred Heart Cathedral. That game is set for the final weekend of the regular season.

 

[colhenrylives]

...and just to reiterate, the WCAL is better when the Bells are strong....they have been one of NorCal's signature prep football programs for decades...until now....not good...

 

[THEOC89]

...and just to reiterate, the WCAL is better when the Bells are strong....they have been one of NorCal's signature prep football programs for decades...until now....not good...

I remember when the Bells knocked off Folsom in a Regional Playoff game….

Hopefully they can turn the program around….

 

[colhenrylives]

Righting this leaking ship will take a renewed commitment from the school's Board of Trustees and Administration.

 

[colhenrylives]

As of this morning, the entire Bellarmine football program's three levels' record was 2-16, 1-8 in the WCAL.

 

[ArmchairGOAT]

So what was the reason Jalal Beauchman stepped down?

 

[colhenrylives]

The Jesuit nightmare in San Jose persists. Bellarmine football is in freefall. The winless (0-6) Bells, once a premier NorCal program dating back to the Great Depression, have been outscored in their three WCAL games, 115-7. They are on track to finish the 2024 season 1-9 or 0-10. Either record would mark the most losses in the school's long history. They were 2-8 last year. The eight defeats are a current record. The one chance for a win they would seem to have this season would be versus Sacred Heart Cathedral. That game is set for the final weekend of the regular season.

Whoops. Maybe the Bells' best shot is vs. Mitty, a loser to SHC today in SF. Or maybe there's no hope whatsoever.

 

[iamgearyblvd]

Mitty took a huge loss when arguably their best player TE/DL Owen Harrington took a shot to what looked like his leg on a pass attempt. SH literally ran through Mitty's line with ease with no Harrington to anchor their line.

This will sound heartless, but honestly dont care if Bellarmine ever recovers back to their old football form. They have so many football titles over the last 40 years that its hard to feel sorry for their football demise. I mean no one really feels sorry for anyone. No other WCAL school ever said, ah jeez, I feel bad for that SH school. I wish they were better so the league can be better.

 

[colhenrylives]

Mitty took a huge loss when arguably their best player TE/DL Owen Harrington took a shot to what looked like his leg on a pass attempt. SH literally ran through Mitty's line with ease with no Harrington to anchor their line.

This will sound heartless, but honestly dont care if Bellarmine ever recovers back to their old football form. They have so many football titles over the last 40 years that its hard to feel sorry for their football demise. I mean no one really feels sorry for anyone. No other WCAL school ever said, ah jeez, I feel bad for that SH school. I wish they were better so the league can be better.

We understand your sentiments re the once-mighty Bells. No one feels sorry for them. But, taking a WCAL-wide perspective, the league just lacks an important signature program when Bellarmine is bad. It's hard to understand why the school's trustees and administration have allowed this situation to persist.

 

[OLCoach51]

We understand your sentiments re the once-mighty Bells. No one feels sorry for them. But, taking a WCAL-wide perspective, the league just lacks an important signature program when Bellarmine is bad. It's hard to understand why the school's trustees and administration have allowed this situation to persist.

The people at the top only do (or don't do) what the parents and alumni allow.

Schools that are bad or go downhill have admin who de-emphasize or don't support football. It doesn't happen at some schools because the principal knows his or her position is somewhat tied to the perception that they support and do what is needed. It happens in places where there is no accountability for the bad actors.

There are sometimes conflicting interests that can hurt football. At the schools where the athletic culture is weak the admin can get away with taking things like athletic sections or discretionary funds away because the parents are either clueless or lack the power/influence to force admin to do the right thing. Try it at Serra, Folsom, Los Gatos, etc and see what happens. You are on your ear before any harm can be done.

None of this is a secret. It's maybe surprising because it's a new dynamic at Bellarmine.

 

[iamgearyblvd]

We understand your sentiments re the once-mighty Bells. No one feels sorry for them. But, taking a WCAL-wide perspective, the league just lacks an important signature program when Bellarmine is bad. It's hard to understand why the school's trustees and administration have allowed this situation to persist.

I looked up the WCAL year by year record books and these were the last league titles by Bellarmine in each sport:
Baseball: 2013 (shared)
Basketball: 2020 (shared)
Cross Country: 2023
Football: 2015 (shared)
Golf: 2024 (shared)
Soccer: 2016
Swimming/Diving: 2024
Tennis: 2024
Track and Field : 2023
Volleyball: 2019
Water Polo: 2024

Id say their athletic department is doing quite well. Their other athletes are achieving and winning titles. Are we just upset that they arent awesome at EVERY SINGLE SPORT? Based on the list above it looks like they are awesome at alot of sports. Just not one in particular.

 

[THEOC89]

I looked up the WCAL year by year record books and these were the last league titles by Bellarmine in each sport:
Baseball: 2013 (shared)
Basketball: 2020 (shared)
Cross Country: 2023
Football: 2015 (shared)
Golf: 2024 (shared)
Soccer: 2016
Swimming/Diving: 2024
Tennis: 2024
Track and Field : 2023
Volleyball: 2019
Water Polo: 2024

Id say their athletic department is doing quite well. Their other athletes are achieving and winning titles. Are we just upset that they arent awesome at EVERY SINGLE SPORT? Based on the list above it looks like they are awesome at alot of sports. Just not one in particular.

They seem to be doing fine in the “Nobody Cares But Parents” Sports….

But as far as the actual sports that drive attendance and people care about Football, Baseball and Basketball they haven’t been relevent in 10, 12 and 5 years respectively….. 🤣

 

[iamgearyblvd]

They seem to be doing fine in the “Nobody Cares But Parents” Sports….

But as far as the actual sports that drive attendance and people care about Football, Baseball and Basketball they haven’t been relevent in 10, 12 and 5 years respectively….. 🤣

As far as those main three sports, Bellarmine may be experiencing what SH has experienced forever. In that San Jose area, if you want to play hoops, you go to Mitty. If you want to play baseball, go to VC. For football, go up the road to Mountain View. SH has always been the 2nd or 3rd choice school behind our arch nemesis.

 

[THEOC89]

As far as those main three sports, Bellarmine may be experiencing what SH has experienced forever. In that San Jose area, if you want to play hoops, you go to Mitty. If you want to play baseball, go to VC. For football, go up the road to Mountain View. SH has always been the 2nd or 3rd choice school behind our arch nemesis.

For the 3 main sports it comes down to Coaching and Consistency…. The Bells have beautiful Baseball Facilities but VC and SF dominate in that sport because of their Coaches…. Just like Serra and SF dominate in FB because of Coaching and attracting kids to their programs….

The Bells are a sleeping Giant…. They have more $$ than anyone else…. With the right Coach and Support they could be the best in the WCAL…..

 

[ThunderRam]

I remember when the Bells knocked off Folsom in a Regional Playoff game….

Hopefully they can turn the program around….

You really mean, Troy Martig knocked off Folsom. And pretty much every other opponent in the Bells path that season.

Martig did for Bells back then what Ryder Lyons does for Folsom now.

 

[Adam007]

You really mean, Troy Martig knocked off Folsom. And pretty much every other opponent in the Bells path that season.

Martig did for Bells back then what Ryder Lyons does for Folsom now.

I wouldn’t say that Bell’s team success was due to one individual. They had players flying around on both sides of the ball. Go back and watch that game, they had huge plays from a handful of contributors.

 

[LWinslow1973]

I looked up the WCAL year by year record books and these were the last league titles by Bellarmine in each sport:
Baseball: 2013 (shared)
Basketball: 2020 (shared)
Cross Country: 2023
Football: 2015 (shared)
Golf: 2024 (shared)
Soccer: 2016
Swimming/Diving: 2024
Tennis: 2024
Track and Field : 2023
Volleyball: 2019
Water Polo: 2024

Id say their athletic department is doing quite well. Their other athletes are achieving and winning titles. Are we just upset that they arent awesome at EVERY SINGLE SPORT? Based on the list above it looks like they are awesome at alot of sports. Just not one in particular.

As a Bellarmine Grad and the father of a Bellarmine son these numbers are not what Bellarmine is about or ever has been. The last soccer title almost a decade ago, baseball more than a decade ago, so on and so on. We expect more out of this school and with 1600 boys the school should be delivering more. Be better Bellarmine and fix this problem.

 

[ThunderRam]

I wouldn’t say that Bell’s team success was due to one individual. They had players flying around on both sides of the ball. Go back and watch that game, they had huge plays from a handful of contributors.

The degree or level of their success was most definitely due to one individual.

A couple of 4th down miracles by Martig allowed the Bells to steal one at Del Oro, without which they wouldn’t have even been in the Regional against Folsom in the first place. Then Martig was also the key ingredient that took down Folsom.

No other QB the Bells could have had behind center those particular days could have led the Bells to wins in either of those games, let alone both. Martig was that good.

They were a very good team without Martig, but not league, section, and regional champion good.

4 of their WCAL wins were by 8 points or less, and 2 of those were by mere 2 and 3 point differences.

W/O Martig they definitely lose to Del Oro (really should have anyway) and were very unlikely to win all 4 of those closely contested league games (they did lose to St. Francis that season).

 

[123ag3]

They seem to be doing fine in the “Nobody Cares But Parents” Sports….

But as far as the actual sports that drive attendance and people care about Football, Baseball and Basketball they haven’t been relevent in 10, 12 and 5 years respectively….. 🤣

we have might have different definitions of relevant. In Fall 2022 they won CCS DII Football, and the NorCal DIII-A championship, losing the DIII-A state champ by 1 point. Winter that year they won CCS DI in soccer and basketball, and Spring 2023 they won CCS DII Baseball.

 

[THEOC89]

we have might have different definitions of relevant. In Fall 2022 they won CCS DII Football, and the NorCal DIII-A championship, losing the DIII-A state champ by 1 point. Winter that year they won CCS DI in soccer and basketball, and Spring 2023 they won CCS DII Baseball.

We do…. Relevant is Winning the WCAL and CCS Open….. Not some 4 win team that gets moved down to play a bunch of overmatched teams in some lower division….

You are in the WCAL, you need to win that league and win the CCS open or it doesn’t matter…, No one cares…. 🤣

 

[123ag3]

Well if you know anything about CCS playoffs, then you would know that in the 22-23 school year, there were no CCS open divisions in those 4 sports. So DI is the highest they could be in basketball and soccer, and DII is the second highest for baseball and football. 1 point away from a state championship, at any division, is pretty relevant.

 

[THEOC89]

Well if you know anything about CCS playoffs, then you would know that in the 22-23 school year, there were no CCS open divisions in those 4 sports. So DI is the highest they could be in basketball and soccer, and DII is the second highest for baseball and football. 1 point away from a state championship, at any division, is pretty relevant.

All I know is The Bells are known for Winning the WCAL and the Top Level of CCS and beating Folsom to play in a Top level SBG, That is Relevant….

Scraping in the playoffs as a 4 win team, beating a bunch of lower level teams and then playing the 50th or something ranked team is So Cal is no kind of State Championship and irrelevant…..

Baseball and Basketball, you have a point…. But FB is so watered down and everyone makes the playoffs so WCAL league titles are what make you Relevant….

 

[colhenrylives]

Watching Bellarmine's football teams this year, what stood out was the marked lack of real prep playmakers, They have decent overall numbers but the actual upper-level talent simply wasn't there.

 

[rwccaptain42]

we need to take a break on trashing the Bells... their season is over.

 

[SFcityfan]

we need to take a break on trashing the Bells... their season is over.

+5, that is Serra’s class attitude🙌🙌

 

[THEOC89]

Slow your roll,…@THEOC89:,

I am not sure who you rep, but unless you are in the Serra contingent and I don’t see that with no Serra posters coming to your rescue or SF posters doing the same thing.

Most of WCAL championship have been Non Open divisions, excepts the latter.

If you don’t know the past,…ST£¥ about commenting on WCAL history and expectation. Otherwise you have become the new @Irish_Cheers with useless chatter or posting

#JustKeepingItReal😳🙌😳

Here’s a History Lesson for you…..

The Bells have won 20 WCAL Leagues Titles…. The last in 2015….

The Bells have won 8 CCS Section Titles, 7 of those in the Highest Division, whether you want to call it D1 or Open, knock yourself out…. The last CCS Highest Division title was in 2015….

Conclusion…. Bells have not been relevant or played up to the standard they set since 2015….

No one cares about 1 lower level playoff run in the last 10 years for a 4 win team that finished 5th in the WCAL because “Everyone gets in the playoffs now” that ended with a loss to the 50th ranked team in So Cal, for a program as decorated as The Bells….

No one is Bashing The Bells, this is a conversation about how the once Greatest HSFB program in the WCAL and CCS has fallen way off in the last 10 years….

No one needs to Rescue me, I am good!…. 🤣🤣

 

[SFcityfan]

I am wonder why @irishcheers is modifying a post to appear as if written by others,..

And we wonder why the moderator don’t ban as other boards have done to poster?

 

[SFcityfan]

Here’s a History Lesson for you…..

The Bells have won 20 WCAL Leagues Titles…. The last in 2015….

The Bells have won 8 CCS Section Titles, 7 of those in the Highest Division, whether you want to call it D1 or Open, knock yourself out…. The last CCS Highest Division title was in 2015….

Conclusion…. Bells have not been relevant or played up to the standard they set since 2015….

No one cares about 1 lower level playoff run in the last 10 years for a 4 win team that finished 5th in the WCAL because “Everyone gets in the playoffs now” that ended with a loss to the 50th ranked team in So Cal, for a program as decorated as The Bells….

No one is Bashing The Bells, this is a conversation about how the once Greatest HSFB program in the WCAL and CCS has fallen way off in the last 10 years….
And
No one needs to Rescue me, I am good!…. 🤣🤣

Thank you Sheldon,

Your opinion which is limited from life experiences or actual achievement of measurements of success,…you truly think you could educate me? If you care that much, I am not paying rent to stay in your head ( btw,… can we add some RedBull and chips to shopping list)🤣🤣🤣

But you seem to be focused on the Bells success or lack of it & the need to run consistent dialog about it. The WCAL has some history and it goes beyond your ten year window of claimed enlightened mind window. Heck another program has left and rejoined the WCAL in football in just a Ten Year window prior to the one you mentioned, so that is not important? I don’t want to tell you that your extremely idiotic point to only focus in FB vs other Olympic sports. Truly screams the later descriptive used..

Now I really don’t care about you opinion, because I haven’t seen you add informative information,…much like another poster who manufactures post,…new sad day on NorCalpreps. (@irishcheers,…this is actually calling you out)

But try to aim higher and reach for @colhenrylives, @FBAddict or a couple of others status to be meaningful or add value,..otherwise think before you hit save🤓🧐🤫

But don’t say you don’t care, because you won’t post,…C’Mn Man😎😂😎

 

[THEOC89]

you truly think you could educate me?

I just did….. You are Welcome…. Go Bells!!…. 🤣🤣🍻