Bells vs Folsom
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I've seen both teams play as well. Will be tough to beat folsom. Too many weapons. I wouldn't be surprised if its 35-14. Folsom arguably played 2 better teams the last weeks. If they prepare and don't overlook I think they win rather easily.
Also seen both and agree Folsom by at least two scores.
I wish Del Oro could get another crack at them Bells. First half will be close but I expect the Dawgs to open it more in the second half. Go SFL!
The Bells had a hard time stopping Del Oro's offense when the Golden Eagles weren't playing as well as they are now. You'd have to think that they'd have an even tougher time slowing Jeffrey and the Bulldogs offense. But every game develops it's own identity and perhaps the Bells defense matches up better against Folsom for whatever reason. Stranger things have happened.
Offensively, I think Martig can give the Folsom defense fits if they load up the box against their double wing. When I saw the Bells play in Loomis back in September, I was impressed with their ability to sling it when they needed to. Martig is very similar to Jeffrey in a lot of respects. This game could be very interesting if the Bells can move the ball consistently.
It's really hard to pick against Folsom right now. But if there is a team other than the one from Concord that can break through, the Bells just might be that team.
Offensively, I think Martig can give the Folsom defense fits if they load up the box against their double wing. When I saw the Bells play in Loomis back in September, I was impressed with their ability to sling it when they needed to. Martig is very similar to Jeffrey in a lot of respects. This game could be very interesting if the Bells can move the ball consistently.
It's really hard to pick against Folsom right now. But if there is a team other than the one from Concord that can break through, the Bells just might be that team.
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Nah, game breakdowns are more fun -- and interesting.
Besides, I never would have come anywhere close to the 56-49 score that occurred in the Folsom-St.Mary's game. But I might have come close on the scoring differential.
I see the game being close at halftime with the teams no more than a FG apart, but halftime adjustments will determine the winner. If Folsom can do what Del Oro did and shut the Bells down in the second half, Folsom wins by 17. If Bellarmine can keep getting first downs and chew up the game clock, I see this coming down to the wire with a coin flip - whoever makes the big play when needed will win it for their team. I'll give the big play to Martig/McCauley like they've done all year.
I'll predict Folsom 17-14 at the half.
Folsom wins 38-21 if they shut the Bells down in the second half.
Bellarmine wins 35-31 if they can keep the chains moving.
I'll predict Folsom 17-14 at the half.
Folsom wins 38-21 if they shut the Bells down in the second half.
Bellarmine wins 35-31 if they can keep the chains moving.
Like I've said the past couple weeks, it's really hard to pick against Folsom until someone actually beats them. I think the Bells can do it, but they'll have to play a near 'A' game to do so, IMO.
St. Mary's played their 'A' game and nearly pulled it off. Elk Grove also played well at times, but it wasn't good enough.
If Jake Jeffrey continues to play as he has the past couple weeks and the line continues to dominate 2nd halves, I don't think they'll lose.
I think this game will be closer than the scoreboard says at the end of the game. I say Folsom by 2 TDs pulling away in the 2nd half.
Am I the only one who finds it amusing how SFL fans keep harping on the close Bell's win over Del Oro & why that seems to mean Folsom will make post Thanksgiving mince-meat out of the WCAL Champ Bell's of Bellarmine?? OK all kidding aside Del Oro was much better than most fans from their own league were giving them during the season. The negative remarks regarding Del Oro stated or implied the close game vs the Bell's meant the Bell's and the WCAL were therefore a distant runner-up to the SFL. Now not my imagination as plenty of quotes still on this thread board as posts were made stating the WCAL champs would finish possilby 3rd or 4th in the SFL. What I'm getting at is Del Oro is quite a bit better than many SFL fans thought thoughout the season due in part to losses [based upon a tough schedule] and a perceived "bad loss" to Bellarmine of the WCAL. Fast forward to DO vs Rocklin and a first game 28-3 defeat only to have DO follow it up with a 30-20 win confounding fans who said they had no chance [yes the posts are on here as to why DO would get clobbered a 2nd time by Rocklin].
As any of you who;ve followed post-season play for any number of years now knows the first team meetings mean little if nothing. So yes of course Folsom comes in a heavy favorite, but who is willing to make a prediciton and stand by it? That being said the projection is 2 scores and I'll post my own prediction a little later on. I like the pre-game posts, but like the the predictions more and who is willing to stand by them afterwards & state why they predicted it.
Freeman's has Folsom #8 in CA at 14-0 going against the Bell's #19 at 12-1 for the season. So once again, blow-out or close competitive game?
Let's hear some scores SFL & WCAL fans.
As any of you who;ve followed post-season play for any number of years now knows the first team meetings mean little if nothing. So yes of course Folsom comes in a heavy favorite, but who is willing to make a prediciton and stand by it? That being said the projection is 2 scores and I'll post my own prediction a little later on. I like the pre-game posts, but like the the predictions more and who is willing to stand by them afterwards & state why they predicted it.
Freeman's has Folsom #8 in CA at 14-0 going against the Bell's #19 at 12-1 for the season. So once again, blow-out or close competitive game?
Let's hear some scores SFL & WCAL fans.
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Veteran team incl 3 yr starting qb, veteran coaching staff and a team with speed and discipline on offense and defense running the unique double wing instilled @ the frosh level...Bells 35 Folsom 28
Folsom- complete team. Dynamic qb. Dominate offensive line. Great first half. Folsom adjusts and pulls away late.
Folsom wins 42-31
God bless.
Folsom wins 42-31
God bless.
I think Bellarmine is a bit like Del Oro in that the team you face late in the season is much better than the one you saw in August/September. Both programs have better coaching than most, which is a big part of it, and the Bells offensive system is such that the timing and execution gets better as the season wears on. However, Folsom is one of those programs that has an elite coaching staff too.
I like Folsom's chances if Jake Jeffrey continues to play as he has the past few weeks. Assuming he does, I see a similar outcome as the Folsom-EG game. 7-10 point difference.
I love this matchup. Martig vs. Jeffrey. Folsom's size, strength and power on the lines against the Bells speed and quickness. Should be fun.
I like Folsom's chances if Jake Jeffrey continues to play as he has the past few weeks. Assuming he does, I see a similar outcome as the Folsom-EG game. 7-10 point difference.
I love this matchup. Martig vs. Jeffrey. Folsom's size, strength and power on the lines against the Bells speed and quickness. Should be fun.
If you would have asked me before this season had started I would have to pick Folsom 35 - 21, but now since the Bells have faced many spread attack offenses , I think they can pull off the upset. Size won't effect the Bells as Milpitas has probably the biggest lineman in NorCal. Not saying they were very skilled , but they are huge. Milpitas had skill and size on the line last year and the Bells beat them to give Milpitas their only loss last year. That whole Bells team is back this year.The Bells only blemish is a loss to Mitty without Martig in the lineup. Folsom is the second best team in NorCal and it will be a shorter travel and should be favored, but I smell a upset brewing. The Bells travel real well as does Folsom so the place will be rocking! I stated earlier in a thread about what a match-up this would be and it has come to fruition. I say Bells 34 Folsom 31 on a field goal in the winding seconds to win the game.
Folsom should be favored but also think it should be a very good game.
Bells Offense
Bells can score very fast when they need to but prefer to use ball control and limit the score. They will do whatever they can to keep the other teams offense off the field. .Their offense is a watching paint dry type, but they can open it up at any time and have several players that can take it to the bank at any time. They will probably be the fastest team that Folsom has faced this season. Bells runs the Double Wing like CVC but run alot between tackles and don't use the sweep as much. More miss direction and if their RBs get any space they are gone. Bells QB is very good and also a burner. He is a very accurate passer. If Folsom plays to much in the box, Bells can pass and are dangerous. Bells have three 4.5 guys. Will be interesting to see if they open up the offense some but wouldn't count on it.
Bells Defense
I think Bells will match up against Folsom receivers as far as pass protection. Tough make big plays against them on pass and they close to run support well. I think 3 of the DBs will be under 11 seconds in the 100 and McCauley will be the fastest kid on the field. Let just say their pass defense will be better than Elk Grove. Elk Grove defenders left Folsom receivers wide open. Bells also have very good LBs on defense. Line will be smaller than Folsom offensive line (Bell's WCAL all leaguer Wolfie Rehbock 6'3" 255 T/DT may be biggest lineman on the team). The matchup against Folsom's Jonah Williams will be fun to watch). Folsom has lots of balance so will be interesting to see how that goes, but Bells are very disciplined on defense. Will Folsom score? Of course, but if Bells offense is successful, it limits the other teams chances.
Will be an interesting contrast in styles, and a surprise if it isn't a good game. Match-ups will be very different than Folsom v DelOro. I think Bells defense matches up better. If Folsom takes over the game it will because of the trenches and that could happen, but Bells have neutralized quite a few very physical teams. Folsom will win in a shootout scenario, but if it stays close Bells could hand Folsom its first loss. Bells are better than St Mary's and I also think better than Elk Grove (Bells beat Franklin by larger margin than Elk Grove). The game between Folsom and Bells should be around 7 points either way. I could see Bells holding Folsom to 28 - 35 points. Bells will probably score 28-35...so I think it will a game around 7 points either way.
Bells Offense
Bells can score very fast when they need to but prefer to use ball control and limit the score. They will do whatever they can to keep the other teams offense off the field. .Their offense is a watching paint dry type, but they can open it up at any time and have several players that can take it to the bank at any time. They will probably be the fastest team that Folsom has faced this season. Bells runs the Double Wing like CVC but run alot between tackles and don't use the sweep as much. More miss direction and if their RBs get any space they are gone. Bells QB is very good and also a burner. He is a very accurate passer. If Folsom plays to much in the box, Bells can pass and are dangerous. Bells have three 4.5 guys. Will be interesting to see if they open up the offense some but wouldn't count on it.
Bells Defense
I think Bells will match up against Folsom receivers as far as pass protection. Tough make big plays against them on pass and they close to run support well. I think 3 of the DBs will be under 11 seconds in the 100 and McCauley will be the fastest kid on the field. Let just say their pass defense will be better than Elk Grove. Elk Grove defenders left Folsom receivers wide open. Bells also have very good LBs on defense. Line will be smaller than Folsom offensive line (Bell's WCAL all leaguer Wolfie Rehbock 6'3" 255 T/DT may be biggest lineman on the team). The matchup against Folsom's Jonah Williams will be fun to watch). Folsom has lots of balance so will be interesting to see how that goes, but Bells are very disciplined on defense. Will Folsom score? Of course, but if Bells offense is successful, it limits the other teams chances.
Will be an interesting contrast in styles, and a surprise if it isn't a good game. Match-ups will be very different than Folsom v DelOro. I think Bells defense matches up better. If Folsom takes over the game it will because of the trenches and that could happen, but Bells have neutralized quite a few very physical teams. Folsom will win in a shootout scenario, but if it stays close Bells could hand Folsom its first loss. Bells are better than St Mary's and I also think better than Elk Grove (Bells beat Franklin by larger margin than Elk Grove). The game between Folsom and Bells should be around 7 points either way. I could see Bells holding Folsom to 28 - 35 points. Bells will probably score 28-35...so I think it will a game around 7 points either way.
Safeway may be the best option. Intel (west side of Prairie City) has thousands of spots, but will tow! In addition, Folsom has school that day AND a basketball tnmt. starting at 4pm with games at 4, 5:30, 7 & 8:30!! I would NOT want to be trying to find a spot for that 8:30pm basketball game!!
You can also park along the street (praire city rd). Yeah don't even think about Intel unless you work there. I've never had an issue with parking even in big games. Keep in mind Bellarmine is coming from SJ. That will deter some travel. Conditions next weekend look unsettling. Wet weather moves into this area starting Wed/thursday and into the weekend. If its wet and ugly the score will be closer.
An exceptional match up with two of the best coaching staffs in CA.
-I see some similarities between this game and the 2011 Bowl game between Bells/Santa Margarita. The Bells LOS play may not be as good as that year, but they are pretty darn good as is Folsom's. Bell's skill players are awesome.
-One thing that frustrated me when watching that 2011 game was Bell's stubbornly sticking with man coverage vs SM and getting burned over and over. They will need to mix it up vs Folsom. I dont know if Bell's will be able to apply alot of pressure on Jeffrey. Always a big key when playing Folsom is open field tackling.
-Folsom's defenses have struggled with power running football teams and thus that match up favors Bellermine. Add in the speed element that the Bell's have this year and it looks like they will have some big plays.
-I see some similarities between this game and the 2011 Bowl game between Bells/Santa Margarita. The Bells LOS play may not be as good as that year, but they are pretty darn good as is Folsom's. Bell's skill players are awesome.
-One thing that frustrated me when watching that 2011 game was Bell's stubbornly sticking with man coverage vs SM and getting burned over and over. They will need to mix it up vs Folsom. I dont know if Bell's will be able to apply alot of pressure on Jeffrey. Always a big key when playing Folsom is open field tackling.
-Folsom's defenses have struggled with power running football teams and thus that match up favors Bellermine. Add in the speed element that the Bell's have this year and it looks like they will have some big plays.
Bellarmine could be in trouble with this matchup. Their linebackers are good but cheat a bit for run support and heavily rely on man up coverage on the wide guys with a single deep safety support on passing downs. The majority of the teams they played this year did not have Folsom's balanced offense attack nor coaching staffs that take advantage of the holes this approach has. The Bells do get after the quarterback well and will have to very successful getting to Jeffries if they want to stay with Folsom. I don't believe Bellarmine has seen a QB on Jeffries' level yet this year (QBR 140) and if he performs to the level he has all year the Bell's are in trouble. The X factor is the Bell's double wing and Martig's expertise in running it. Probably hasn't been as good a fit for that system since McHugh in 2011. He has a flair for the dramatic and may will a victory but I still see Folsom by at least two scores.
Off the wall question: When was the last time Bellarmine made 2 trips to the Sacto area in the same season? I don't think it's happened before.
Thunder not sure if they have ever been to the valley twice. I believe they had a series with Jesuit and St. Mary's back from 2004 thru 2009 but they did not overlap.
Here is the station’s news release:
CSN CALIFORNIA TO AIR LIVE COVERAGE OF BELLARMINE-FOLSOM GAME,
2015 CIF REGIONAL FOOTBALL DIVISION I-AA CHAMPIONSHIP BOWL GAME
Bellarmine (12-1) at Folsom (14-0) on Friday, Dec. 11 at 7:30 p.m.
SAN FRANCISCO, CA (December 7, 2015) – CSN California (@CSNAuthentic), the home of “Authentic Bay Area Sports,” will present live coverage of the 2015 CIF Regional Football Division I-AA Championship Bowl Game on Friday, Dec. 11 at 7:30 p.m. The game will feature Central Coast Section Open Division I champion Bellarmine (12-1) versus Sac-Joaquin Section Division I championFolsom (14-0).
The winner will play a Southern California representative in the CIF State Division I-AA Championship Bowl Game on Friday, Dec. 18 at 8 p.m. at Sacramento State. CSN will announce its schedule of the 2015 CIF State Football Championship Bowl Games at a later date.
Roxy Bernstein (play-by-play; @roxybernstein), Mike Pawlawski (analyst: @Pawlawski) and Kate Scott (sideline reporter; @katetscott) will call the action for the Bellarmine-Folsom telecast.
I published channel numbers for the different television broadcasts for the game (AT&T, Comcast, Direct TV, etc.) on the Game TV broadcast thread, but here it is again.
http://www.csncalifornia.com/page/channel-locations-csn-california
http://www.csncalifornia.com/page/channel-locations-csn-california
Some great posts on here esp from ThunderRam & NorCalSportsFan. Since the topic of speed has come up I'll share the quickness of Bell's skill players with other fans. The Bell's record setting CCS 4x100 relay team has 3 of those members on the football team and in an unlikely twist one of them is the QB, Troy Martig. The Bell's Utility athlete Kyle Macauley who is a hybrid RB/WR/KR/DB is the CCS 100M champ at 10:69. Troy Martig is at 11:00 in 100M and RB/DB Devon Buenrostro is at 11:05 - so all 3 in the top 10 of 100M times for the CCS. That is the 3-headed monster FOlsom is facing & why I see this as a close game under 10-points spread. Looking at recors and opponents there are a few indicators this will be such a game.
Intel has a big parking lot across the street,Thats where we parked for the Folsom-Del Oro Section game years ago
Nobody should underestimate the Bells. They've been one of the dominate teams from one of the best leagues in the State going back a long time. And this current team certainly stands on its own. Martig is a fabulous QB and their team speed presents all sorts of problems. The undersized line of Bellarmine could cause Folsom some problems with their quickness, relentless motor and ability to disrupt.
I was at the Del Oro game and the Golden Eagles played one of their best games of the season and still lost. We all know that DO is still playing this week, so a close game against them isn't a bad thing. Folsom rolled Del Oro, but it also wasn't the same team the Bells played.
I think this game will be close, but I still like Folsom to come out on top. But if Bellarmine pulls off the upset, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Seems like the big question is how is Bellarmine going to stop Folsoms offense. Here is a question. How is Folsom going to match up and stop Bells offense?? CVC has a similar offense to Bells but Bells run it much more efficiently and have more weapons. The double wing can give teams a headache. Folsom is obviously bigger and more physical in the trenches but with the double wing exploits team that over pursue and get too aggressive. They dont have to blow up the Dline to create running lanes. One thing that I think is extremely underrated is Bells passing game. They may not have a prolific passing attack but they can beat you with the pass if you focus too much on the run.
Exactly right. I have seen all DO games except the league game with Rocklin and I completely agree with TR. It was the Folsom game that it hit me that something was not right with DO. To not score on Folsom was very telling of the state of DO at that time. DO was flat out down/broken for the Folsom and following week game with Rocklin. If folks are trying to draw comparative conclusions with the DO/Bells & DO/Folsom game... Don't.
I still think Folsom wins at home as they are the team to beat.
Bellarmine will not win a shootout with Folsom, they need to keep Folsom's offense off the field. They need their double wing to chew up yards and move the chains and limit Folsom to 2 possessions per quarter at most. If they can stop Folsom from scoring on 1/2 of their drives where Folsom can be limited to about 28 points, that's their chance. This Bellarmine offense should be able to score 2 TDs per half against Folsom, then they just need to sneak a FG in there somewhere.
