CIF decision vs. NCAA decision -- Transgender Policy

[cptmycpa]

California plans to continue allowing trans athletes to compete in girls' sports despite Trump executive order

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/cali...te-girls-sports-despite-trump-executive-order

https://goldcountrymedia.com/news/3...-remain-the-same-amid-trumps-executive-order/

The State of California and its public school athletics association has indicated it will not fall in line with President Donald Trump's latest executive order to keep trans athletes out of girls' and women's sports.

The California Interscholastic Federation (CIF) said it will continue to follow the state's law that allows athletes to participate as whichever gender they identify as, according to The San Francisco Chronicle.

The NCAA announced Thursday that it has amended its policy on gender eligibility so that biological males are no longer allowed to compete in the women's category in response to Trump's order.

Curious how the future of college recruiting in sports will be affected going forward with this difference in policy.

 

[colhenrylives]

The insanity persists in a state that continues to descend into utter absurdity.

 

[northbaybbguru]

Im waiting for a school to say "eff it" and put together a team of players with penises (who claim to identify as female) as a girls team and annihilate everyone on their way to a state title. Is that what it's going to take to end this ridiculous decision???

 

[ClayK]

What's so strange is that this is a complete non-issue. There were 10 trans athletes in all of NCAA, and I have never encountered a trans athlete in decades of coaching. 99.9% of high school girls will never compete against a trans athlete.

There are a lot of important issues the country has to deal with, and this is not one of them. For some reason, though, it's become a big deal for conservatives, despite its complete irrelevance to the real world.

 

[northbaybbguru]

What's so strange is that this is a complete non-issue. There were 10 trans athletes in all of NCAA, and I have never encountered a trans athlete in decades of coaching. 99.9% of high school girls will never compete against a trans athlete.

There are a lot of important issues the country has to deal with, and this is not one of them. For some reason, though, it's become a big deal for conservatives, despite its complete irrelevance to the real world.

The issue was brought to the forefront when Lia Thomas a college swimmer from the Univ of Penn won an NCAA national championship in the 500yd freestyle.

Thomas challenged World Aquatics the sports governing body, over the rules preventing her from competing in women's events.

The court of arbitration ruled Thomas was not eligible to compete in World Aqyatics events but could compete in USA swimming events that are not elite.

Other sports like Track & field and cycling have also ruled that transgender women cannot compete in women's events.

Recently there was a lawsuit filed in San Bernadino over a transgender female competing in HS girls cross country and of course we all are aware of the San Jose state volleyball situation.

I think this is 1 of those situations where common sense needs to prevail and for whatever reason it doesn't. The left chooses to die on this hill and it doesn't make sense to me (and I'm liberal).

I know that for 99.9% of female athletes this will never affect them. But what about the times where it does? A season ender or career ender would be brutal OR in some cases girls losing spots to transgenders and never even getting the opportunity to compete. (See the recent lawsuit in San Bernadino about the HS cross country team)

I put this on the cowards in position of authority who refuse to just..say..NO!

And believe me I can't stand a certain individual who recently won the POTUS but I have to give him credit when due... he got this one right.

 

[northbaybbguru]

What's so strange is that this is a complete non-issue. There were 10 trans athletes in all of NCAA, and I have never encountered a trans athlete in decades of coaching. 99.9% of high school girls will never compete against a trans athlete.

There are a lot of important issues the country has to deal with, and this is not one of them. For some reason, though, it's become a big deal for conservatives, despite its complete irrelevance to the real world.

It was a pretty big deal to the swimmers who had career's end and/or lost a podium spot to Lia Thomas I bet though...just sayin...

 

[ClayK]

Of course it was a big deal to them. And I agree that anyone who transitions after puberty should not be allowed to compete against females -- but the case of Castor Semenya, who was female but with elevated testosterone, shows that it doesn't take an operation or drugs to create this imbalance. We've all been around enough to see girls who just have genetic gifts that elevate them way above those they compete against. Are some of those genetic gifts "masculine traits"? I would certainly say so, but I'm no scientist.

The point is, though, that the playing field is not level. Genetics are determining factors in almost all sports, especially if you consider competitiveness and aggression as traits affected by what's in the DNA.

But again, this is just not that important to the vast majority of athletes or the country as a whole.

 

[northbaybbguru]

Cornerstone Christian vs San Francisco Waldorf in D6 this Saturday.

SFW has a transgender averaging 20pts/game for a 9-8 team. To CC credit they said they are playing the game and not forfeiting and ending the careers of their seniors. Makes no sense to forfeit in my opinion as it doesnt do the forfeiting team any good as no one will remember the forfeit next week and will only affect CC negatively.

 

[ankleassassin]

That's very Christian of them.
Thoughts and prayers.

 

[mrbig864]

What's so strange is that this is a complete non-issue. There were 10 trans athletes in all of NCAA, and I have never encountered a trans athlete in decades of coaching. 99.9% of high school girls will never compete against a trans athlete.

There are a lot of important issues the country has to deal with, and this is not one of them. For some reason, though, it's become a big deal for conservatives, despite its complete irrelevance to the real world.

Interesting. Perhaps basketball is somewhat of an outlier. Hard to believe in this day and age, a long-time coach had never seen a trans athlete. I saw no less than 3 “trans” athletes at a “juniors” girls volleyball tournament the weekend before last. And it didn’t even see every team or player there. I use the term “trans” rather loosely, and perhaps incorrectly, as the players in question still looked 100% like boys. They wore shorts, while all their teammates wore the standard “biker” shorts we come to expect from girls volleyball players. One was by far the tallest player on the court, and another of the three players was so much better than any of the girls on the court, it was difficult to watch.

While I somewhat agree it’s not a HUGE issue (setting college records should fall into the category “it’s an issue”), but the slope is slippery. I guess my counter would be if it’s truly a “complete irrelevance” to the real world, then why should anyone in the real world really care of legislature is signed forbidding it?

 

[ClayK]

Actually, I agree. It's just not worth talking about.

And yet it gets headlines. If you really want to worry about something in high school sports the shortage of officials is a far higher priority.