ADVERTISEMENT

Clayton Valley Charter headed to EBAL

And here’s how clueless you remain. 18 High school seasons. Two dual sporters. Do the math nEinstein.

Um you might be missing the point, I never asked about your kids sports careers or their colleges majors nothing. News flash I don’t care, so take your chest puffing somewhere else. Clearly something is off with you. Not sure what it is short man syndrome, baby dick, mommy didn’t hug you, something. You get all worried about what schools kids go to and for what reasons. Then try and justify something with a need to brag about your kids, pathetic. I hope your kids overcame your clear issues clearly the deck was stacked against them. (And I’m not talking DLS here) Peace Im over it.
 
Some two bit attempt at psychoanalysis on ncp tells folks more about a sender than recipient. Where you’d get that PyschD? Wal-Mart?
You’ll never know my kids, and for that I am thankful. And if I can contribute to the discussion, as you don’t seem to realize, especially on student-athlete topics I’ll exercise that right. Take my “chest puffing somewhere else?” The great news at the fact you said “I’m over it,” is that Streak let me me know your shiny new NCP cop badge is on its way. LMAO.
 
Couldn’t they just assign playoff divisions before the season? Then it wouldn’t matter who’s in what league.For example the Southern Section teams all know what division they are slotted for before the season.Most leagues have teams in 2-3 different divisions.It makes it easier to schedule non league against same division teams in other leagues to create seeding
 
  • Like
Reactions: Truthhertz
Couldn’t they just assign playoff divisions before the season?

But how would they manipulate who’s in and out of which division if that happened? That would take the spirit out of making sure two top teams don’t eliminate each other. (SMH)
 
Couldn’t they just assign playoff divisions before the season? Then it wouldn’t matter who’s in what league.For example the Southern Section teams all know what division they are slotted for before the season.Most leagues have teams in 2-3 different divisions.It makes it easier to schedule non league against same division teams in other leagues to create seeding

Good idea, but all the BVAL and EBAL Mountain division teams are D1, as is CVC. However, there has been talk of reshuffling the divisions going into next season, with I remember seeing at least SRV (and maybe Freedom? and some other teams) possibly going down to D2. Or they could have just combined the top EBAL teams (Mountain) with the top BVAL teams and throw in CVC to make one power league, and one B level D1 league. If Heritage and Deer Valley are really in that bad of shape (as the article implies), it would make more sense to have them playing teams like Granada, Livermore, and Dougherty Valley than Pitt, Liberty and Freedom.
 
But how would they manipulate who’s in and out of which division if that happened? That would take the spirit out of making sure two top teams don’t eliminate each other. (SMH)
Southern Section uses two year period to determine strength of program and proper division placement.Im guessing your last sentence was sarcasm LOL
 
It’s all about Equity now, everyone gets a trophy!
Ehhh I don’t think so. I think it is as simple as embracing the exact same format that the other sports use in order to send the best possible representatives to the state playoffs. For some reason (I think it’s prehistoric male machismo) the majority of people think that of the sports that have a state playoff system, football should be the only one that follows the “sink or swim” section playoff system.
 
Ehhh I don’t think so. I think it is as simple as embracing the exact same format that the other sports use in order to send the best possible representatives to the state playoffs. For some reason (I think it’s prehistoric male machismo) the majority of people think that of the sports that have a state playoff system, football should be the only one that follows the “sink or swim” section playoff system.
Those other sports have an distinct advantage in that they can play multiple games a week which makes it much easier to give good teams a second chance
 
  • Like
Reactions: Truthhertz
Those other sports have an distinct advantage in that they can play multiple games a week which makes it much easier to give good teams a second chance

What does playing more than once a week have to do with it?! Lol

They let semifinal losers advance to fill the bracket with good/deserving teams/players.
 
What does playing more than once a week have to do with it?! Lol

They let semifinal losers advance to fill the bracket with good/deserving teams/players.
If you have more games to play you need more teams to fill brackets.How many regional games do you play for football?
How many regional games do you play for basketball? It’s just the math and nothing else
 
  • Like
Reactions: Truthhertz
send the best possible representatives to the state playoffs.

I would counter this thought with the best representative in the winner regardless of season record. Winners move on loser’s are left with excuses and shoulda coulda woulda’s. It’s how football has always been.
 
  • Like
Reactions: THEOC89
If you have more games to play you need more teams to fill brackets.How many regional games do you play for football?
How many regional games do you play for basketball? It’s just the math and nothing else
But we aren’t talking about more games. We are talking about teams that lose in the semifinals or finals having the ability to move on to the State playoffs. It doesn’t matter about more or less games. Allowing “losers” to move on to the State playoffs is a concept. So again I ask, why is it ok for wrestlers who do not win NCS to advance to the state tournament? They do it because of automatic births based on where they finished at the end of the section playoffs. They don’t say “Well they can squeeze more matches in because they wrestle and don’t play football, so lets have them advance. After all, a match only lasts around 10 minutes and a football games lasts like two hours!”
 
But we aren’t talking about more games. We are talking about teams that lose in the semifinals or finals having the ability to move on to the State playoffs. It doesn’t matter about more or less games. Allowing “losers” to move on to the State playoffs is a concept. So again I ask, why is it ok for wrestlers who do not win NCS to advance to the state tournament? They do it because of automatic births based on where they finished at the end of the section playoffs. They don’t say “Well they can squeeze more matches in because they wrestle and don’t play football, so lets have them advance. After all, a match only lasts around 10 minutes and a football games lasts like two hours!”
I understand your point.Its a valid one I just don’t think it’s right for losers to move on and apparently the sections don’t either
 
The only lobbying that was done was by the Folsom administration to the Section commissioner to get them out of playing DLS.I understand it’s a festering wound that can’t be healed for you but it is what it is
Kind of hard to argue that point when there was a game last year played between the two and this next year. All lobbied for by the same Folsom team you mention. Key points I guess.
 
Really? So why are people posting Herritage was lobbying for CV not join their league? Why are sports fans OK with a team losing to DLS but still advancing? The much ballyhooed “Folsom rule” but yeah you’re right what was I thinking these fans take it all in stride.
I think you are confusing forum banter and opinion, with "lobbying." Very different thinks.

Lame attempt at a troll- but I will go back to my main point. Nobody cares. Nobody is lobbying. Nobody is scared to play anyone. End of story.
 
Playing DLS in the preseason is just a tad bit different than having them eliminate Folsom from state bowl consideration. I think most sane people here would agree. It’s also what the lobbying was about, not some preseason game.
 
Last edited:
Funny how the word "meaningless" can be used. A game against the two top teams in NorCals that was essentially the open and D1AA determiner, talked about for months, and was billed as the top match up in NorCal in the last 5 years or so, was "meaningless."

That is almost as bad as another poster peddling the theory of Folsom ducking someone, considering this will be the second year in a row they played- both at Folsom's request.

There are some interesting characters on the forum for sure. The troll attempts are lame, yet semi-commendable. It is the thought that counts.
 
Kind of hard to argue that point when there was a game last year played between the two and this next year. All lobbied for by the same Folsom team you mention. Key points I guess.
Lobbied for bc they felt they had the team to win this time...and didn't know the coaches would be leaving the program..........WRONG again... DLS 3 FOLSOM 0.....soon to be 4-0...BOOK IT!
 
Playing DLS in the preseason is just a tad bit different than having them eliminate Folsom from state bowl consideration. I think most sane people here would agree. It’s also what the lobbying was about, not some meaningless preseason game.

Exactly!... Folsom only scheduled that game because they knew when they lost they would still be able to "Hang 60" a bunch of lower level teams to go to the 1-AA Bowl, so a no lose situation for Folsom....

Just look at their Schedule this year, their Marquee Game (other then a "No Lose Game" against DLS) is against a D3 Team!... Yet Capital Christian is Playing AZ Pinnacle and Grant is Playing Eastside Catholic.... So much for the new coach "Scheduling Up"...

Since Folsom is the 2 Time Defending 1-AA Champion with multiple D1 players returning, shouldn't they at least be scheduling 1-AA Level Teams?...

Just more of the same From Folsom Coaches... Other then a "No Lose Game for Folsom" against DLS, They refuse to put teams on their schedule that can beat them, only lower level teams they know they can hang whatever on...

Nor Cal's Great "Paper Tiger"...
 
Funny how the word "meaningless" can be used. A game against the two top teams in NorCals that was essentially the open and D1AA determiner, talked about for months, and was billed as the top match up in NorCal in the last 5 years or so, was "meaningless."

Sure a win would have given Folsom a shot at a open title. But a loss didn’t eliminate them from getting a chance at one of socals B squads and a state title. Big Difference.
 
Exactly!... Folsom only scheduled that game because they knew when they lost they would still be able to "Hang 60" a bunch of lower level teams to go to the 1-AA Bowl, so a no lose situation for Folsom....

Just look at their Schedule this year, their Marquee Game (other then a "No Lose Game" against DLS) is against a D3 Team!... Yet Capital Christian is Playing AZ Pinnacle and Grant is Playing Eastside Catholic.... So much for the new coach "Scheduling Up"...

Since Folsom is the 2 Time Defending 1-AA Champion with multiple D1 players returning, shouldn't they at least be scheduling 1-AA Level Teams?...

Just more of the same From Folsom Coaches... Other then a "No Lose Game for Folsom" against DLS, They refuse to put teams on their schedule that can beat them, only lower level teams they know they can hang whatever on...

Nor Cal's Great "Paper Tiger"...
Hate to have to agree,since Folsom is very very good.But truth is truth
 
Sure a win would have given Folsom a shot at a open title. But a loss didn’t eliminate them from getting a chance at one of socals B squads and a state title. Big Difference.
Lame attempt at a troll job. You can do better.

You said it was meaningless. You have back tracked.

I guess there was some meaning to that game.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT