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De La Salle Haters want their cake and eat it too

I had the pleasure of meeting some Parents at Trinity circa 2011 at a football game where they totally destroyed the team they played. Contrary to what you see on TV about Texas football and the people who support it, some of the most friendliest and good hearted people I have ever met. They are very passionate about their football, but that is the culture down there. It can't be described until you have been there and have experienced it. Went to Cal vs. Tennessee 08 I think in Berkeley...Tennessee came out in full force they travel well and lost, again some of the nicest people I have met after the game. Moral of the story...I love southern folks! Say yes sir and no ma'am out of respect and even the cute girls working the cash register down there call you sweety and sugar all the time. Nice touch especially when you are an ogre like me!
 
Texas is a whole other animal in regards to high school football. In CA, we could learn a thing or two from the Texas programs and the parents.

I think we put ourselves up on a pedestal in regards to sports in CA. Granted, I love CA. But we are not the only show in town ;)
 
First and foremost yes it's an embarrassment to those of us that have to explain to folks from TX and FL that our best athletes are not on DLS roster. And btw, I don't need to respect anything. Basically this hater can care less about DLS recruiting when it comes down to playing a TX or FL school. Can't you see that Cali HS football rep is at stake when DLS sticks their chest out to play a TX or FL school on national TV? If DLS don't have the Cali horses to showcase stop playing on ESPN. Play a lower tier TX or FL school on local TV. How bout that.

With that being said, I have no problem with DLS showcasing skill position players from Richmond, Oakland, Pittsburg, Antioch, Vallejo or Berkeley on their roster whenever they schedule a TX or FL power. You cannot expect to win a game against those super athletic teams with the types of skill players DLS had at WR this past Saturday night. DLS need the type of Cali speed that Grant displayed against LBP in the 2008 CIF DIV 1 Championship game. If DLS doesn't have that type of speed or athleticism they need to stop scheduling FL and TX. Just continue beating on the public schools in Cali that are under funded as well as the privates schools that have a 30% chance of beating them. With that being said, I honest believe DLS can beat any team from TX or FL if they had the skill players needed. The coaching is not the problem in my opinion. That's all this hater is saying as he drops the Mic!!!
Skill players? Boss and Asiasi live in Pittsburg and the stud Sophomore defensive tackle lives in Brentwood. Those are linemen, and their three best players. Take those three off that team and they get annihilated by Trinity and would not even win NCS this year.
 
Ditto that on Southern folk.
Last year when the Byrnes N C team travelled to play DLS had the opportunity to talk with a lot of the team parents and friends before and after the game.
Super polite, great people. Also very knowledgable about both teams.
 
Turnovers were the ultimate decider in the game, Trinity's physicality was the reason for those turnover's. .

Turnovers AND penalties. DLS was awful in both areas.

With regard to the turnovers, Trinity had absolutely nothing to do with either. I'm perplexed as to how you could possibly say otherwise. The first was Custer mishandling the toss on the reverse and the 2nd occurred inside Trinity's 10 yard line on a mishandle by Sweeney and the RB on the veer option. Neither turnover had anything to do with contact or physicality.

The gift turnover by Custer just before half resulted in 6 points in what turned out to be a 5 point loss
 
The gift turnover by Custer just before half resulted in 6 points in what turned out to be a 5 point loss

Trinity's #11 picked up the fumble and COULD HAVE been tackled way before the end zone....DLS's Custer (#28) caught up to #11 and could have made the saving tackle but didn't wrap up plus KEEP his feet a bit longer....

Yes, Turnover + Poor Tackling...

See the botched reverse play at 3:52
 
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I could not agree with you more, G61. And I believe it starts with the coaches and administration. Class acts all the way around. My son's trips to Texas the past two years were by far the most enjoyable of his HS football years.
 
Trinity had absolutely nothing to do with either. I'm perplexed as to how you could possibly say otherwise
Pain makes you think different, anyone can tell you that. When you are used to dominating opposition up front and suddenly, the holes are smaller, the fatigue gets a bit greater, you get hit harder than usual you start to push a bit harder and you begin to think. Bad things happen on a football field when you think. It is the result of physicality indirectly. I was also talking about the interceptions, physical db play can alter routs and completely change the timing, pressure causes the QB to press as well less patience also breaks the timing on routs.
 
What does Folsom have to do with the DLS loss to Trinity!?

You linked these two teams, so now they are linked.

It has to do with the difference in expectation, De La Salle bar is set much higher, than anyone else's, the expectation is much greater. Folsom gets to go away after one year and have no expectation. Usually that would be fine, but you made such a spectacle last season. I understand why you did it. Folsom was a great team, and they were dwarfed, they deserved recognition and you did what you had to.

I am the most hated man amongst De La Salle Alumni and fans.

Now serious question and no dodging because I will keep asking it until I get an answer

Is Jake Browning from Folsom?
 
And don't give me this "the bar is set higher" like you are better than everyone. The bar should be set high for DLS. They are a PRIVATE SCHOOL. They can sustain a good crop of players year after year because they aren't confined by district boundaries. If you don't believe me, just look at all the traditional private school powers in CA, and look at their historical record.

Folsom is a PUBLIC SCHOOL. They will have ups and downs depending on the crop of kids coming up through the district. Last year was the exception for us because we were at the top end of the best crop of kids they school had ever seen. We have also experienced this in basketball.

I linked the two schools last year for a reason. The reason was that for the first time in many years, a Norcal team could of, and would have beaten DLS if the powers that be had let it happen. This needed to be known. From what I saw last Saturday from DLS, they would have gotten their butt handed to them by Folsom last year.

Got em.
 
And don't give me this "the bar is set higher" like you are better than everyone. The bar should be set high for DLS. They are a PRIVATE SCHOOL. They can sustain a good crop of players year after year because they aren't confined by district boundaries. If you don't believe me, just look at all the traditional private school powers in CA, and look at their historical record.

You've just contradicted yourself.

Why are there "private school POWERS?" Aren't they all the same? You just stated that all private schools can sustain a good crop of players year after year. If that's the case, then ALL private schools should have better than "average" or better than public school programs.

Explain the "phenomenon" at private schools like Riordan, SHC, Valley Christian (Dublin), Bishop O'dowd, and Moreau (previous years)? With unlimited boundaries shouldn't they have talent year after year and be dominant? Why don't they shine year after year?

I'll give you a real-world example. Why did my work buddy's relative who lives in Hayward travel 30 miles one way to Mt. View each day to attend St. Francis? Moreau is just over a mile away....

So what's my f'ing point?...There are indeed PRIVATE SCHOOL POWERHOUSES, and they exist because their "BARS ARE SET HIGHER" (simply stated). With the higher standards and the wins/successes, they attract the talent. Yes, "the rich get richer." What kid with football talent doesn't want to be seen on ESPN playing for teams like DLS, Bishop Gorman, Centenial, St John Bosco, etc...?
 
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No, they are not all the same...And you know this :) And I didn't contradict myself. I said the BAR SHOULD BE SET HIGHER for schools like DLS. I just didn't like someone using that whole "the bar is set higher" in context to try and puff out their chest in hopes of gaining some superiority. You guys take this DLS stuff way too far. Unreal.

I am speaking of schools like DLS and Mater Dei. Big difference between the top tier and the mid/bottom tier. Don't twist my statement.

I am only speaking in regards to Folsom because we are a public school. COMPLETELY different bar/standard from year to year due to district boundaries and other restrictions. The fact that a public school like Folsom could even compete with a school like DLS even for one year is an outright miracle. And, it pissed a lot of you off in the process ;)

The schools you mentioned (DLS, Bishop Gorman, Centenial, St John Bosco), have a strong tradition and record of winning. Kids want to go there. Parents want their kids to go there. The bar is set higher at places like that because it SHOULD BE. They are drawing kids from EVERYWHERE.
 
Pain makes you think different, anyone can tell you that. When you are used to dominating opposition up front and suddenly, the holes are smaller, the fatigue gets a bit greater, you get hit harder than usual you start to push a bit harder and you begin to think. Bad things happen on a football field when you think. It is the result of physicality indirectly. I was also talking about the interceptions, physical db play can alter routs and completely change the timing, pressure causes the QB to press as well less patience also breaks the timing on routs.

I get what you are saying, but that simply was not the case here.

Custer's fumble occurred near the end of the half and was the result of a botched trick play. He simply didn't handle the toss. If it had anything to do with what you're alleging, how did he manage to his 81-yard run in the 4th - along with other big plays? Why didn't he ever fumble again?

The 2nd lost fumble was inside the 10 and was a simple exchange problem when Sweeney either didn't fully release the ball to the RB on the dive or he decided too late to pull the ball back in order keep it on the option. It was a mesh, timing thing - not what you are outlining.

Again, if fatigue or physicality had anything to do with it, why didn't it happen more often --especially on big hits?

Trinity's QB lost the ball on a hard hit once, but never did so again. Would you claim he was fatigued or in pain?? It was just a good play by the defense. The two fumbles by the Spartans were not due to contact or anything else other than poor execution.
 
I think the "recruiting" thing has been well covered on these forums in the last 10 years. Old news...Nobody cares.

DLS lost to a better team this weekend. Not the end of the world. Not the end of the "haters."

Just move on from this. This is the EXACT reason why DLS has "haters." Many of you get on here and offer nothing but excuses when DLS see's a rare loss.

Losing is part of life. Kids need to know that. You all need to know that :)

This is the most agreeable post of your I have read to date! Keep it up
 
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They are a PRIVATE SCHOOL
Folsom is a private school as well ;) that was the whole point of the Jake Browning is from Granite Bay concept, and if you recruit why aren't you better this season. For the record Granite Bay is next door to Folsom if you take a boat.
It was just a good play by the defense
That beliefe is why DLS hasn't lost a game in Northern California in 23 years, every thing starts and ends with the point of attack and moves outward from there.
 
Lol I am well aware of where Folsom and Granite Bay are :)

Recruiting would be easy for me. I could throw a rock at both ;)
 
I drive to Folsom five days a week from Placer County. It's a 20 minute drive from GB's campus to where Folsom High is located. Not exactly convenient. Hell, Casa Roble in Orangevale is much closer to Granite Bay than Folsom High is. Why anybody living in GB would drive out of their way to send their kid to Folsom is beyond me. Academically, GB is ranked among the highest in the area and their football program has been consistently good for much longer. That said, if I lived near Folsom High I wouldn't drive out of my way to send my kids to GB either. There'd be no point as both are great schools with solid athletic programs.
 
A whole 20 minutes? Wow, you don't say...

Some kids at SOME schools, commute 1-2 hours to attend the school of their choice. Some even via public transit ☺

The intent of my statement was to point out that the two cities border each other. It wasn't to stretch the truth in some public school recruiting conspiracy. Lol ;)
 
CORDOVA high to folsom high is a mere 10 miles up highway 50 to folsom. The outer most Cordova boundary to folsom high is 4.8 miles. Coach Taylor is a Cordova high great……………
 
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