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Heritage over Acalanes 52-25..........

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Does anyone have an explanation for such a lopsided score? I would think Acalanes would be able to score a few more points and make a closer game of it. Were there players out with injury? Did players get into foul trouble? Were Acalanes ice cold while Heritage was red hot? One side refs?

Is Heritage 25 points better than Acalanes? Anyone at the game care to respond?
 
Brooke Panfili didn't play because she was sick. She's their best player, leading scorer and main ballhandler.
 
Heritage is better. No other explanation is needed if you know anything about the high school teams in the area. If Panfili plays maybe they score 10 more points. She's an average high school player, not a difference maker. You guys need to stop with the one sides refs excuse as to why teams lose.
 
Panfili would definitely make a difference as would losing a best player from any team. However, I agree with the excuses and the scoreboard may not tell the entire story but the scoreboard does not lie.
 
No question that Heritage is better -- and a definite threat in Division I, especially if Carondelet gets bumped to the Open.

Acalanes, though, could do well in D2 NorCals if Miramonte gets pulled to the Open, as D2 doesn't look that strong this year.
 
Heritage is better. No other explanation is needed if you know anything about the high school teams in the area. If Panfili plays maybe they score 10 more points. She's an average high school player, not a difference maker. You guys need to stop with the one sides refs excuse as to why teams lose.

I would never use a one side refs excuse because those who know me know my attitude is you wrap the ref (s) up in the ass kicking along with the team you are facing. But to say some refs don't occasionally call games one sided is to live in a fantasy perfect denial world, and I am living in the real one. Since I wasn't there, I was just asking for feedback from someone who was, based on how they perceived it. I would then try to draw a conclusion for myself, based on a bit more info than I had not being there.
 
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wait--who made a one-sided-refs excuse?

No one to my knowledge. But I did ask to see if anyone thought in their minds that that was the case. Just so I could try to better define why Heritage (who is a good team) would beat Acalanes(who has also been a pretty good team the past couple of years) by 27 points with Acalanes only scoring 25 total points. Not some things but everything happens for a reason. I was searching for someone who was at the game to give me their perspective, no matter what reason they used.
 
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Does anyone have an explanation for such a lopsided score? I would think Acalanes would be able to score a few more points and make a closer game of it. Were there players out with injury? Did players get into foul trouble? Were Acalanes ice cold while Heritage was red hot? One side refs?

Is Heritage 25 points better than Acalanes? Anyone at the game care to respond?

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In your post right here you made reference to one sides refs as a reason the score was possibly lopsided. I didn't make that up. I've coached thousands of games and I will tell you anytime a team loses, parents are the first to day "the refs cheated us". That excuse is tired. So you think a referee for a high school game comes in and says I'm going to cheat for this team? For what reason? What would be their purpose? They don't care who wins or loses. Next time you watch a game and a call is made that you disagree with, think am I disagreeing with it because it goes against my daughters team, or did I have a good look at it from the stands. When I coached I've turned to my parents who are complaining about the refs and making asses of themselves, to shut up and if they didn't like it they could leave the gym. Refs don't care. Scoreboard operators don't care. Players win and lose games
 
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In your post right here you made reference to one sides refs as a reason the score was possibly lopsided. I didn't make that up. I've coached thousands of games and I will tell you anytime a team loses, parents are the first to day "the refs cheated us". That excuse is tired. So you think a referee for a high school game comes in and says I'm going to cheat for this team? For what reason? What would be their purpose? They don't care who wins or loses. Next time you watch a game and a call is made that you disagree with, think am I disagreeing with it because it goes against my daughters team, or did I have a good look at it from the stands. When I coached I've turned to my parents who are complaining about the refs and making asses of themselves, to shut up and if they didn't like it they could leave the gym. Refs don't care. Scoreboard operators don't care. Players win and lose games

First off, I never made the claim " one side refs was the reason anyone loss at any time " I was searching for the possible excuse or reason "anyone else " would use for such a lopsided score. So don't get it twisted !

Anyone that knows me knows I have never yelled out at refs for cheating during or after a game from CYO to the NBA. I may comment on what I believe to be a bad call, bad calls, or a poorly officiated game. Refs are human. Humans make bad calls. To sit here and say refs (whether cheating or not) don't many times make a bad or the wrong call that can often be one sided is living in denial. This conversation is not taking place on television, it is taking place in the real world. So you are getting to hear all sides. I don't use refs cheated or refs made bad calls as an excuse, On the contrary I use it as motivation to wrap the ref(s) up in the pending ass whipping with the team being played.

To answer your question the purpose could be.... the refs are human, the refs were not very good ( like coaches, parents, and players some are better than others), the refs are related to someone in or around the team, the refs like one team a bit better than another, the refs are intimidated by one of the coaches, the refs just had a bad day making calls, the refs got upset at one of the coaches and decided to make a few calls against that coach as a way to punish the coach, one coach worked the refs better than the other coach, some refs call a game tighter than others, and finally some refs actually do and have cheated. Those are a few realities but sure there are more.

To say all refs are good is to say all people are since refs are pulled from the human population. Refs are no different than teachers (who some have been found to have dated children which is inappropriate), doctors (who have been sued for malpractice and/ or inappropriate behavior),
police officers ( who have used their position to rob, lie, steal and kill), to priest (who have been found to have molested children and had affairs as have politicians, and the list goes on.......

But again "I never have and never will use refs cheated or refs made bad calls as an excuse a team wins or losses" What do you think "Win Anyway " means? Because I know most refs try to call a good and fair game. But the truth is there are games where the officiating sucks from CYO to the NBA.
 
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So with all that said why would you even throw out "one sided refs" as a reason. You put your fingers on the keyboard and put that out there. No one did it for you. So I'm not getting it twisted. I'm responding to what you said. You saw the score and said, "one sided refs" as a possibility the score was the way it was. So don't get all defensive now. Why the hell are you bringing in teachers who dated students and all the other stuff you brought up. That stuff doesn't even apply. Guess what some refs are not very good. Just like some coaches aren't very good and some teams aren't very good. Those refs that aren't good are making bad calls that hurt both teams but most parents only comment on the calls made against their team. Maybe a call happened at the wrong time and could have influenced the game. Guess what? He or she was making bad calls all game against both teams. Like I said go watch a game that your daughter isn't involved in and count the bad calls. You will find out I'm right
 
hold on...hold on... did you really just make a correlation from sucky refs...to... child molesters???
 
hold on...hold on... did you really just make a correlation from sucky refs...to... child molesters???

Yes and no. What I stated was there is no group of perfect humans. And you or anyone else can search the earth and when you find them you'll be in the grace of the highest creative power which will then set us all free. Good luck with that search !
 
Wow...this thread could have ended after the first couple of responses. Lotta blowhearts. I doubt Paytc ever thought the refs would be responsible for a 27 pt blowout but he was merely trying to get a feel for why the lopsided win(ie. one large factor, bunch of little factors, etc.) . I was at the game and it was nothing more than the fact that Acalanes was without their PG. She is the difference maker for them for sure. As I watched the game I was surprised at how close it was at first as Heritage was expected to beat Acalanes and without their PG I thought it would be immediately ugly. I think after 1st quarter it was like 4-4 and at half Acalanes was only down by 6 or so. But in second half Heritage coach made adjustments realizing that Acalanes had no real ballhandlers and they pressed opening up the game and winning big. That is where the PG would have really helped Acalanes keep it competitive. End of story.

What I did come away with after watching that game is there are no really strong, strong teams this year like last other than a few and I think there will be many upsets along the way. I think Heritage will be challenged by Castro Valley but I might be wrong.
 
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Wow...this thread could have ended after the first couple of responses. Lotta blowhearts. I doubt Paytc ever thought the refs would be responsible for a 27 pt blowout but he was merely trying to get a feel for why the lopsided win(ie. one large factor, bunch of little factors, etc.) . I was at the game and it was nothing more than the fact that Acalanes was without their PG. She is the difference maker for them for sure. As I watched the game I was surprised at how close it was at first as Heritage was expected to beat Acalanes and without their PG I thought it would be immediately ugly. I think after 1st quarter it was like 4-4 and at half Acalanes was only down by 6 or so. But in second half Heritage coach made adjustments realizing that Acalanes had no real ballhandlers and they pressed opening up the game and winning big. That is where the PG would have really helped Acalanes keep it competitive. End of story.

What I did come away with after watching that game is there are no really strong, strong teams this year like last other than a few and I think there will be many upsets along the way. I think Heritage will be challenged by Castro Valley but I might be wrong.

Thank you for the feedback as that was all I was looking for. Obviously, I wasn't at the game. I agree many like to make issues out of things that aren't really worth the time. Or just simply like to in their own minds, always be right. At the end of the day most of us want to see all these children improve their play, become more confident, and have a high school experience they will cherish long after their time spent in high school. Others like to pit one team, one coach, or one player against another. Or just like to argue. Perhaps their lawyers? Or losing a fight somewhere else? I would like to see everyone improving as coaches, parents, refs, players, and teams. Because there is no human perfection, and plenty of room for all to improve.. But I do know some other post that may not appeal to me is worth the response to others. I guess content whether you agree with it or not is what keeps the site going.
 
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