Miller out at Arizona

[larry legend33]

Fat lady is signing. He's done. Doubt he will ever coach college basketball again but read he has a 10m buyout even if he gets canned for cause... WTF. Who negotiated that? I hope they claw that back. What a scum. Never liked him.
O'neal kid recommitted. Jordan Brown better rethink his choices. All these coaches are going to be toast. Maybe hit up st mary's.

 

[kiddman32]

The NBA should consider an immediate dump of the “one and done” rule, allowing the recruits a chance to just go pro and avoid implication. And I mean *right now*.

They’d have to scurry and enlarge the G-League, but it could be very worth the time and expense.

 

[SF_Mikey]

Fat lady is signing. He's done. Doubt he will ever coach college basketball again but read he has a 10m buyout even if he gets canned for cause... WTF. Who negotiated that? I hope they claw that back. What a scum. Never liked him.
O'neal kid recommitted. Jordan Brown better rethink his choices. All these coaches are going to be toast. Maybe hit up st mary's.

I wonder if the players such as Ayton will be ruled ineligible for the tournament?

 

[larry legend33]

Something has to change. Ayton needs to be ruled ineligible immediately. I'm sure it will be happening within the next 48 hours. I'm sure he's on to the NBA. And Roemer who is assisting UOA was just as dirty with Markel Fultz at Wash so why the hell isn't he out too? Markel should have spent more time shooting. Man he's looking like a bust.

 

[colhenrylives]

Fat lady is signing. He's done. Doubt he will ever coach college basketball again but read he has a 10m buyout even if he gets canned for cause... WTF. Who negotiated that? I hope they claw that back. What a scum. Never liked him.
O'neal kid recommitted. Jordan Brown better rethink his choices. All these coaches are going to be toast. Maybe hit up st mary's.

Is Miller the only turd in the NCAA punchbowl? Not even close. Big-time Division I is a cesspool.

 

[coachlittle]

And I mean *right now*.

something has to change . I guess DSJ is off the hook cause he's not in college anymore ?
When a reporter asked Coach Carlisle about DSJ and the so called loans ....

Carlisle stared at me blankly and said, “You’re asking me questions that I’m simply not going to answer.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/rick-carli...response-question-dennis-smith-061343294.html

 

[nickdakoolkat04]

Maybe I’m in the minority but injink the ncaa is more dirty than any of these players or coaches. Let’s be real money matters in this society. Most of these kids and their families are at best middle class most probably poor, so of course you’re gonna take 100k being dangled in front of your face for playing basketball. Not to mention all the millions of dollars the NCAA makes off these guys talent, the ncaa is a business model that any business would love, free labor that makes you millions...miss me with that moral high ground bs

 

[remc]

Maybe I’m in the minority but injink the ncaa is more dirty than any of these players or coaches. Let’s be real money matters in this society. Most of these kids and their families are at best middle class most probably poor, so of course you’re gonna take 100k being dangled in front of your face for playing basketball. Not to mention all the millions of dollars the NCAA makes off these guys talent, the ncaa is a business model that any business would love, free labor that makes you millions...miss me with that moral high ground bs

Totally agree. I get sick to my stomach every time I see Mark Emmert pontificate about rules violations. He’s the front man for NCAA hypocrisy

 

[TurtleLoveCA]

Nonsense. Basketball and football money pays for tens of thousands of athletic scholarships for non-revenue sports. Players are NOT being mistreated. Biggest bunch of crap that the public has bought into. The tiny percentage of superstar athletes is outweighed hundreds of times by young men and women whose payoff of a free education is golden.

 

[larry legend33]

Turtle- totally agree with you. How about what an athletic scholarship is worth? Can you imagine gradating college without debt these days? But for the select few these people shouldn't be in college at all. They have no intention of getting a degree. That is where things are broken.

 

[colhenrylives]

Turtle- totally agree with you. How about what an athletic scholarship is worth? Can you imagine gradating college without debt these days? But for the select few these people shouldn't be in college at all. They have no intention of getting a degree. That is where things are broken.

Absolutely.

 

[remc]

Nonsense. Basketball and football money pays for tens of thousands of athletic scholarships for non-revenue sports. Players are NOT being mistreated. Biggest bunch of crap that the public has bought into. The tiny percentage of superstar athletes is outweighed hundreds of times by young men and women whose payoff of a free education is golden.

Agree somewhat, but the cost of athletic scholarships versus millions the schools and NCAA make is less than a pin prick.I have a nephew who is a D1 football player and yes, he’s on scholarship, but it’s a hell of a life . His experience of course.Not quite the “well, his education is paid for “ Nirvana it sounds like if one is actually living the life, he says

 

[FLAGRANT]

I think David Stern has a small role to the NCAA problem by implementing the "1 year of college" rule. None of the one and done kids have any connection to the school, the history, etc.

You need a 1.8 to be eligible to play, and you only need it for the first semester. - that rule is for freshmen/ RS freshmen. So the second semester you don't even have to go to class. It's a complete joke.

What the hell would a kid care if a school gets hit with sanctions and coaches fired/banned ? He will be in the NBA in 3 months anyways/ or most cases already is.

The one year of college has to change, also Nike, adidas, and UA need to be taken out of the AAU circuits. Shoes, jerseys, backpacks, clothes. All of those things are a "form of payment". If your going to attack the problem. AAU/Prep are definite contributors to the NCAA issues.

 

[Trivalley]

all these players need to be able to make a living once they turn 18. If the NBA doesn't want an immature player don't draft them. Stop using the NCAA as their G league!!!!!

The NCAA will be just fine. These kids don't want to go to college and learn, they just want to play hoops an they should let them.

 

[larry legend33]

There is no way Adidas, Nike, UA are going to be taken out of the equation. If anything it will continue to grow into the younger ranks. Don't cry me the blues about a free education, access to the best training facilities, nutrition, and medical. Suck it up and quit whining. Or do what the ball clan is doing and go play in some foreign country.

 

[factsmatter8888]

NCAA is for sure the real culprit here.

 

[UncleYacht]

This is only the beginning...I'm hearing from my sources that the doo doo is about to hit the wind machines big time! Talk about a bracket buster! Nationwide, all 5 major conferences will be impacted. Follow the money....

 

[Trivalley]

"People that were against [players] coming out [of high school] made a lot of excuses, but I think a lot of it was racist. I've never heard anybody go up in arms about [minor-league baseball or hockey]," Van Gundy told reporters. "They are not making big money and they're white kids primarily and nobody has a problem."

He has a point. Let the kids earn a living!!!!!

 

[kiddman32]

This is only the beginning...I'm hearing from my sources that the doo doo is about to hit the wind machines big time! Talk about a bracket buster! Nationwide, all 5 major conferences will be impacted. Follow the money....

I was hearing sports-talk radio discussing the same thing, and one of 'em is betting that the doo-doo will splatter about JUST before this year's tournament.

 

[larry legend33]

St Mary's and Zags final four out of the WCC. You heard it from me.

 

[youseechief]

Both clean as the wind driven snow for sure

 

[Lincoln240]

Didn’t Randy Bennett and St. Mary’s have tampering charges brought against them in the last few years? I believe that you are a top 50 program you are doing something illegal or have in the recent past.

 

[ballinplayin365]

20+ year old movies dealing with the topic at hand. All the tough talk here just sounds goofy.

Marvin bagley must have reclassified and went to duke because he just wanted to play for coach K. /sarcasm.

 

[colhenrylives]

NCAA is for sure the real culprit here.

The NBA has not been overly helpful over the years.

 

[TurtleLoveCA]

The basketball rules should be the same as baseball. You can come out after high school. If you go to a JC, you can go after year 1 or 2. If you go to a 4 year school you have to wait 3 years. Very simple. Very clean.

 

[TurtleLoveCA]

The blaming of the NCAA for everything is a bunch of crap.

 

[colhenrylives]

The blaming of the NCAA for everything is a bunch of crap.

TL, tell us how you really feel.

 

[nickdakoolkat04]

Nonsense. Basketball and football money pays for tens of thousands of athletic scholarships for non-revenue sports. Players are NOT being mistreated. Biggest bunch of crap that the public has bought into. The tiny percentage of superstar athletes is outweighed hundreds of times by young men and women whose payoff of a free education is golden.

And thats the exact argument the NCAA wants you to believe, that these kids should shut up and be grateful for their free education while they it back and make millions. I think all the college

 

[nickdakoolkat04]

Look I’m not saying these players aren’t getting something out of the situation, but to me they should be able to profit on their talents as well as get the opportunity to have a scholarship. Example If somebody is good enough that people would pay money for their autograph they should be able to sell as much merchandise as they want. They should be able to have shoe endorsements, the NCAA doesn’t own them and any other 18 year old in this country is able to do these things, they’re not illegal. I understand most college athletes aren’t in this category and therefor they have no choice but to get their degree. But for a lot of the star athletes, the Ncaa is making millions off them meanwhile their families still live in less than ideal situations.

 

[noknight]

I don't think it's as simple as "the NCAA is evil," since the NCAA is an organization formed BY the member schools, overseen by college and university presidents and, at least ostensibly, is dedicated to making sure everybody agrees to and abides by the same rules (which we all know doesn't happen).

Truth be told, I think the problem is that college football and college basketball are essentially a monopoly for 18 year olds. Let's face it, not everybody is cut out to get a college degree, much the same way that not everybody can run a 4.3 40 or dunk a basketball. Why do we force kids who are athletically gifted and who have no real interest in classes to make a farce of "college" athletics and then tell them they should be grateful for the free education? Especially when some programs won't let them take courses they need to graduate because they eat into practice time?

What is needed is a legitimate minor league system in basketball and football where these young men can make a decent wage. MLB already has it. If you're a good player AND a great student, then by all means go to college. But like in baseball, if you go, you aren't eligible for the draft until after your junior year. Would college sports be worse? Sure, but at least the students would be real students.

 

[FLAGRANT]

There is no way Adidas, Nike, UA are going to be taken out of the equation. If anything it will continue to grow into the younger ranks. Don't cry me the blues about a free education, access to the best training facilities, nutrition, and medical. Suck it up and quit whining. Or do what the ball clan is doing and go play in some foreign country.

See how many NCAA coaches want to touch a kid that plays for a sponsored Aau team after the Louisville scandal and Upcoming sanctutions etc. Hey even Nike dropped Tiger lol

 

[mistisoman]

Many are at fault here, but what is the FBI's motivation into college basketball & probably college football? I'm a huge fan of both and understand there's "shady" dealings at every angle you look but isn't there more pressing issues that the FBI should be trying to stop (school shootings & terrorism) in this country, or are they trying to make college sports safer to watch?

 

[mistisoman]

The blaming of the NCAA for everything is a bunch of crap.

Who then is to blame here? Yes the NCAA funds many other non-profit sports but that pales in comparison to the billions these athletes generate in revenue!! How many years of revenue was generated by the sale of jerseys & video games using the players likeness, I can remember the EA college football game that had Reggie Bush on the cover, I'm sure it sold more than a million copies & made many millions for the NCAA & USC, but the person who was made out to be a criminal was Reggie, all because he wanted to give back to his family (free home & $50,000) that a sports agent offered, and yes that was against NCAA rules, but to take away a Heisman trophy is ludicrous, did they take away O.J. Simpsons heismaH trophy?

 

[mistisoman]

Nonsense. Basketball and football money pays for tens of thousands of athletic scholarships for non-revenue sports. Players are NOT being mistreated. Biggest bunch of crap that the public has bought into. The tiny percentage of superstar athletes is outweighed hundreds of times by young men and women whose payoff of a free education is golden.

So wait, that tiny percentage of SUPERSTARS are the kids that make college sports a billion dollar business and make other dreams come true by getting non-athletic scholarships funded, why shouldn't these young athletes get some of that piece of the pie? So your telling me that the BCAA doesn't make billions on the talents of these young athletes, then explain to me the million dollar salaries of some these coaches?

 

[mistisoman]

Maybe I’m in the minority but injink the ncaa is more dirty than any of these players or coaches. Let’s be real money matters in this society. Most of these kids and their families are at best middle class most probably poor, so of course you’re gonna take 100k being dangled in front of your face for playing basketball. Not to mention all the millions of dollars the NCAA makes off these guys talent, the ncaa is a business model that any business would love, free labor that makes you millions...miss me with that moral high ground bs

No your not in the minority here, the NCAA and it's members created an equality here by having stupid rules in place all the while these young athletes started to see the business side of college and the millions that are being generated by their talents, and now the NCAA wants to make change? Total hypocrisy on the NCAA's behalf and I hope they start looking in the mirror & stop using the term "AMATEURISM" as their sole reason why these athletes can't get themselves paid while in college!! If it's amateurism, then why do coaches get million dollar contracts, even at mid-level programs coaches are paid hansomely, my point here is yes the NCAA's model has created this mess & now needs to be investigated as well because they themselves as a non-profit organization which is more bullshit as well!!

 

[UncleYacht]

Ricky Roe got that tractor!

 

[UncleYacht]

And Tony was shaving points. Tony!

 

[noknight]

Many are at fault here, but what is the FBI's motivation into college basketball & probably college football? I'm a huge fan of both and understand there's "shady" dealings at every angle you look but isn't there more pressing issues that the FBI should be trying to stop (school shootings & terrorism) in this country, or are they trying to make college sports safer to watch?

Well let's see... do you consider income tax evasion criminal activity? You can bet this guy does:

You think everybody who's getting six figures is reporting that income to the IRS? Furthermore, there's some evidence that some of that cash was coming from overseas, making this something of a money laundering issue. Still think the FBI shouldn't be involved? Maybe we should just wait for one of these foreign investors to get angry that his money isn't being well spent or appreciated. That never ends badly...

Do you consider bribery a criminal activity? You think maybe Johnny Dawkins might have been a bit more successful at Stanford if Arizona wasn't bribing kids to go to Arizona? You think a few football coaches wouldn't have been fired if U$C wasn't buying players new houses to go there?

You don't want the FBI looking into college football and college basketball? Then how about WE HOLD THE PEOPLE IN THE GAME ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR FREAKING ACTIONS?!?!?!?

 

[mistisoman]

Well let's see... do you consider income tax evasion criminal activity? You can bet this guy does:

You think everybody who's getting six figures is reporting that income to the IRS? Furthermore, there's some evidence that some of that cash was coming from overseas, making this something of a money laundering issue. Still think the FBI shouldn't be involved? Maybe we should just wait for one of these foreign investors to get angry that his money isn't being well spent or appreciated. That never ends badly...

Do you consider bribery a criminal activity? You think maybe Johnny Dawkins might have been a bit more successful at Stanford if Arizona wasn't bribing kids to go to Arizona? You think a few football coaches wouldn't have been fired if U$C wasn't buying players new houses to go there?

You don't want the FBI looking into college football and college basketball? Then how about WE HOLD THE PEOPLE IN THE GAME ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR FREAKING ACTIONS?!?!?!?

There's more pressing issues than college sports, and these actions that are coming forth has been going on for decades, going back to the John Wooden days and now the FBI is probing these shady sports agents & the NCAA? This is not shocking news that this is going on, it's shocking that the NCAA is acting as if they never thought it was going on!

 

[noknight]

There's more pressing issues than college sports, and these actions that are coming forth has been going on for decades, going back to the John Wooden days and now the FBI is probing these shady sports agents & the NCAA? This is not shocking news that this is going on, it's shocking that the NCAA is acting as if they never thought it was going on!

So what are you proposing? That the FBI ignore it since "it's been going on for decades?" Or that they wait for the NCAA to do something, when we all know that any bite the NCAA had was removed by all the pearl-clutching people who saw what killing the SMU program did after the Pony Express? The NCAA doesn't have subpoena capabilities, so they had no way of compelling people to testify. So I for one am glad that the FBI is stepping in. I want college football and college basketball to be just that - a sport for college students. Not a kind of purgatory for semi-pro athletes.