Miramonte vs Campolindo
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having been at these contests for years, I suggest considering skipping warmups, introductions, and maybe the first quarter to give the boys' fans a chance to depart and to take their cars with them, creating seats and parking spaces, although the mass exodus doesn't happen until halftime. things will be much better in the second half of the season, when the girls play first.
MM has come along this year, although the two frosh starters are inconsistent (duh), and the team drops off when one of their 3 big-minutes returners takes a seat for rest or foul trouble. Campo has Haley Van Dyke, who leads the team in points, rebounds, blocks and steals (per Maxpreps), and will present a problem for MM in the paint, where they're thin. MM will want to play up-tempo, and I don't have a sense of whether Campo can run with them, or slow the tempo. I'm hoping to see a close game. or three quarters.
Hard to call it. I guess they will each learn a lot about where they are at this point in the season from the outcome of the game. The biggest question is consistency. Miramonte (as a team overall) appears to be playing with a bit more consistency game to game than Campolindo.
So here is my question.......... Will the Campolindo team that upset Salesian show up? Or the Campolindo team that struggled against Cardinal Newman?
We have a few friends and admire folks on both sides. So no prediction from me. May they have a clean, hard fought, and injury free game.
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Clay,
How is frosh Erin Tarasow playing for MM? Saw some tape of the SRV game but haven't been out to Orinda yet this season.
Wondering if we will see another pathetic display of sportsmanship from Kelly Sopak as was the case the last time these two teams met.
In case you forgot, with a 60 point lead and a running clock, Sopak called timeout with seconds to go in the game to have one of their players go to the line to shoot free throws in an effort to score in triple digits. The final score ended up 102-38. I had the pleasure of sitting near St. Mary's College men's basketball coach, Randy Bennett, who called Sopak's stunt the absolute worst coaching behavior he had ever seen in high school basketball.
I don't pretend to know anything about Sopak, but is this in line with what people in the business of high school girls basketball think of him?
In case you forgot, with a 60 point lead and a running clock, Sopak called timeout with seconds to go in the game to have one of their players go to the line to shoot free throws in an effort to score in triple digits. The final score ended up 102-38. I had the pleasure of sitting near St. Mary's College men's basketball coach, Randy Bennett, who called Sopak's stunt the absolute worst coaching behavior he had ever seen in high school basketball.
I don't pretend to know anything about Sopak, but is this in line with what people in the business of high school girls basketball think of him?
There is a nice side to Kelly Sopak and a competitive side to K.S.
The competitive side is definitely not to be confused with the nice side.
He is also loved and in some cases strongly disliked. But most I've talked with respect him as a good coach.
Not sure whether or not Kelly and others who were caught up in the harsh competitive cycle between bitter rivals even thought twice about running the score up as something regretful.
Once during a 6th grade AAU game a team my daughter was on was losing to another team by over 40 points. There was only about 3 seconds left in the game and one of our players was driving on a fast break for a layup when a girl went to stop the layup by intentionally hurting our player.
Not that I would ever want to see anyone get hurt but the girl who went to dish out the unnecessary punishment ended up hurting herself instead of the innocent child who was just trying to end the game scoring two points.
But I could tell that was an instruction coming from a coach who had built in a practice of never letting anyone score anything easy no matter how many points you are winning by or what time was left on the clock. That is an example of what I call negative competition. The whole purpose for playing the game should "always" be positive.
To me that is far more harmful than running a score up on a team which some may consider distasteful. Both confirm the compulsive drive of what I consider the effects of negative competition. Where one judges how well they are doing by how bad they can make someone else do, look, or feel. Competition should be used in a positive manner not to put down or harm others.
I think we have all behaved at one time or another in ways we may have regretted later. So I typically steer away from the strong judgement of others.
Hopefully Campolindo and Miramonte both conduct themselves with class and respect this evening. And put a game which is nothing more than a game in the proper perspective. And may they have a hard fought but clean and safe battle with no injuries.
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well, that move certainly forfeited any right MM might have to complain about Campo running up the score tonight, or maybe ever. I don't really know coach Sopak personally, so I can't comment on the nice guy/ruthless competitor dichotomy. I'd like to think it was a decision to have his kids break the magic 100 barrier, probably for the only time in their careers, but I gotta admit it looks bad to an outside (unbiased?) observer.
since the 2nd half score was 57-9, the two coaches' decisions about game management were decidedly not on the same page. I'd hope that it wasn't personal/"bad blood" thing, but I have to profess ignorance about that as well.
since the 2nd half score was 57-9, the two coaches' decisions about game management were decidedly not on the same page. I'd hope that it wasn't personal/"bad blood" thing, but I have to profess ignorance about that as well.
Those are a few good points that I hadn't thought of. Not knowing what was in the heads or on the minds of either coach one can only speculate motives of each.
I can speak on the bad blood that goes on between the two. I don't know either coach and have never spoken to either coach. I do know parents from the Campo side and I do know parents from the Cal Stars side. This is purely second hand information as I'm getting it from parents. The bad blood is real. It stems from being at rival schools as well as both running youth clubs in the area. Once again this is all second hand information, it started during the spring and summer of the club season when the coach from Campo was bad mouthing Cal Stars, the coaches, and how they run things. It then carried over to the high school season and how Miramonte is overrated, Sabrina is overrated, the players, parents, and coaches at Miramonte have no class. Sopak is said to have made deragatory comments about Thoms and his club team, so Sopak is no saint in this. Once again this is all second-hand information. Not sure how much of it is true but some of the same stuff was told to me by individuals on both side. Whether that was the catalyst for last year who knows. I will say it should be interesting tonight. I just walked in the gym and it's packed.
final MM, 77-59. very strange flow. after back and forth for most of the first half, MM closed with a flurry to go up 40-29 at half. Campo opened with a 14-4 run of their own to close within 1, but then MM went on a 23-0 run to put it away. maybe there is truth to paytc's observation that there are two Campo teams. from the last two minutes of the first half through the middle of the fourth quarter, it was MM, then Campo, then MM. the rest of the game was pretty even. Clair Steele (MM) looks more impressive each time I see her.
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Wasn't a typical high school game. It was punch, counter punch. I thought it was entertaining. Campo is good and they have some nice pieces, more than Miramonte in my opinion. Miramonte has more will and they play harder. Number 3 for Miramonte is outstanding. She is impressive. Number 33 for Miramonte is a physical force. If she had skill to go with everything else, she would be unstoppable.
Campo's inability to make 3 point shots on a consistent basis and the foolish turnovers during the game made it difficult for Campo to stay close when Miramonte made their runs. Miramonte won the game tonight from the 3 point line.
The 3 point shots will come and go. The Warriors have the best 3 point shooters in the history of the game and there are nights they can't hit the 3 point shot. So you better know how to game plan and make adjustments. Plus you better have some defense, hustle, grit, effort, and make good decisions with and without the ball. Because those are the things you can rely on even when the 3 point shot is not falling. And you don't want to be beating yourself and compound that with the ass kicking the other team is giving you.
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I can agree with 90 % of your statement. The part about the system making the difference only works if it is backed up by the right coaching. There are coaches out there running the same systems and other awesome systems. But they better back that up with game plans and adjustments. And knowing how to put the right players in the right lanes and trust the players so they can spend the most of their game time, managing the game, and not micromanaging the players.
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