Modesto Christian to play Oak Hill
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oh s#!t that's ambitious... MC will be good next year, that will be a beast though... interested to see the rest of their schedule then...
For An event like that to have Modesto play Oak Hill one might assume their is a big name transfer leaving Fresno up the 99
Are you implying that Jalen Green is going to transfer to Oak Hill?
Honestly if Green goes anywhere, it'll be Prolific Prep IMO. I think Jalen really enjoys California.
The implication is mc, not oak hill. He does play with 3 mc players on ebo, so the possibility is there.
Streak One, can you explain why this is the last year a game like this can happen?
For Green to move it would be huge. He is pretty much the biggest thing in Fresno right now. Adidas has pretty much made him their guy, which kinda coincides with the returning of EBO. Although its a long shot Fresno State will go all out. If the 1 and done rule is still around don't be shocked if it happened. Coach Hutson has major ties to EBO and the backing of the central valley. I know it sounds crazy but don't be suprised.
Why...whats the new cif rule? What are they trying to say. No more high school showcases...
It is in a thread on the Football side:
https://norcalpreps.forums.rivals.c...-can’t-play-academies-starting-2019-20.18980/
The CIF does not want coaches who want to challenge their teams and complete at highest levels to have that option anymore.
I've been meaning to comment on this for a couple days now but forgot about it.
People need to realize comparing a Prep School like Prolific, IMG, Findlay, Aspire, and many more to a let's say Bishop Gorman, De La Salle or Crossroads is like comparing apples to oranges. Maybe Sierra Canyon could compete with those Prep Schools, but anybody else would be wiped off the floor.
When I got a chance to watch Hillcrest Prep and Kyrie Walker warm up before their game at the Valley Challenge, I literally was stunned. I have seen some Low D1 schools, who didn't look this tall and athletic before warming up. On the court the team was a bit sloppy, but you could just tell they were on a whole another level than any non-Prep school team.
I thought about it and I think it's a good idea for the CIF to do this. I am all about competition, but there is a huge competitive disadvantage that these Prep schools carry. I am neither against or pro Prep schools, but I personally think it's really special when a kid can go all 4 years at a school, get a quality high school degree, and make history, as opposed to just joining a dream team of players.
People need to realize comparing a Prep School like Prolific, IMG, Findlay, Aspire, and many more to a let's say Bishop Gorman, De La Salle or Crossroads is like comparing apples to oranges. Maybe Sierra Canyon could compete with those Prep Schools, but anybody else would be wiped off the floor.
When I got a chance to watch Hillcrest Prep and Kyrie Walker warm up before their game at the Valley Challenge, I literally was stunned. I have seen some Low D1 schools, who didn't look this tall and athletic before warming up. On the court the team was a bit sloppy, but you could just tell they were on a whole another level than any non-Prep school team.
I thought about it and I think it's a good idea for the CIF to do this. I am all about competition, but there is a huge competitive disadvantage that these Prep schools carry. I am neither against or pro Prep schools, but I personally think it's really special when a kid can go all 4 years at a school, get a quality high school degree, and make history, as opposed to just joining a dream team of players.
Here's some quick numbers..
Findlay prep vs public schools:
25-9 Morgan park, IL(w) 64-61
25-5 Desert vista, AZ(w) 75-60
25-2 Shadow mountain, AZ(w)83-74
21-7Oak park, CA-(w)60-50
15-12 Higley, AZ (w) 91-57
27-6 Abington, PA (w) 91-83
20-9 Foothill, NV (w) 81-50
31-3 Memphis east- (L)68-57
Aspire vs public schools
31-3 Memphis east (L)82-66
Hillcrest vs public schools
25-5 Heritage, NC (w) 70-60
IMG vs public schools- a lot of unreported scores
31-5 Hoover, AL(w) 75-71
14-12 Lakewood, FL(w)70-33
19-7 Lakeland, FL (w) 84-59
Prolific prep vs public schools
31-3 Memphis east, TN (L) 80-54
15-6 garfield heights, OH (w) 71-43
Memphis east's three losses
25-4 Olive branch, MS 73-70 -public school
29-4 Simeon, IL 78-73- public school
35-2 university, FL 77-72- private school
I chose those 4 teams because they were mentioned. Of the 15 games they played vs public schools only 6 were blow outs, 6 were 10 points or less, and 3 were losses. You don't have to be a Prep academy to compete with one. To dig even deeper look at montverde. 37-0 Their closest games were roselle catholic(60-59), vs simeon(62-60), Bayside, FL(68-64), Findlay prep (69-67), Lone Peak, UT(87-82),Fairfax, CA (79-70) and dematha, MD (76-66). 1 prep academy, 2 catholic schools, 4 public schools.
Take what you want from all that, but if you want to find the true motivation for this rule, all you have to do is read the article heat posted. It has nothing to do with competitive advantages or the kids.
"Roger Blake, executive director of the CIF, said, "This new business model, we're not going to support by playing them."
I will take Bishop Monty over a school like Hillcrest any day. Hillcrest looses to top HS teams around the country yet alone prep schools. Kyrie Walker is one of the most over hyped players I've seen. Same height as an 8th grader as he is today, but who knows was probably 16 then. Not 6"6.. More like 6'4 1/2 and full grown. Green ceiling so much higher... Walker will continue to fade each year as other younger kids continue to mature and pass up.
Wasn’t this post about Modesto Christian and Oak Hill smh. Let’s stay on topic. That will be huge clout for MC even thought they may get blown out. Great experience.
Green has higher ceiling but Kyree is more polished right now. And he’s a legit 6’5. Better handle and vision than Green. Green better athlete.
Green has higher ceiling but Kyree is more polished right now. And he’s a legit 6’5. Better handle and vision than Green. Green better athlete.
I actually think MC won't get embarrassed by Oak Hill. I know this isn't the football forum but St Mary's of Stockton playing Mater Dei in Football last year and this year is a much more lopsided game in terms of comparisons. MC returns who I will coin as the preseason #1 team in Norcal. The difference between MC, Sheldon, Salesian, and ODOWD this year wasn't much. On any given night either one of these teams beats each other. Sheldon more than held there own against Sierra Canyon. I think MC would have done the same. They lose Junior Ballard who was an absolute stud but they return 75% of there roster including a front line of 6"9, 6"7, 6"6. I'm sure there is a transfer in the mix as well. MC will be loaded next year with a handful of D1 and D2 kids.
As for Green Vs Walker. Not even close. Walker is a D league NBA guy in the future. Green is a lottery pick. Just watch.
As for Green Vs Walker. Not even close. Walker is a D league NBA guy in the future. Green is a lottery pick. Just watch.
I could see it being competitive as well. I remember back during the 2006-07 season Jesuit played Montverde in a tournament at Folsom and only lost by 1 point. Jesuit had a great high school team that year, but they didn’t have anyone over 6’4” or any future D1 players. Montverde had NBA size and a roster full of future D1 players. I believe they went undefeated that season and finished as the top ranked team in the country.
I didn’t know you was a NBA scout lol. You swear you know everything man. But i guess that’s your opinion. I believe both are lottery picks when it’s all said and done. Kyree is physically more opposing and a lot more polished right now. I do believe Green has a higher ceiling because of his athleticism and young age. But for you to call Walker a D League guy is just ridiculous man
Ha ha... Lottery pick. Good luck with that. Last i looked you have to be pretty decent to even make an nba roster. Also the european influence is so big. 25%+ of top 60 are now from overseas. Quinn Cook storied Duke career and big time recruit out of Oak Hill. Barely got a nibble. I know a thing or 2 about talent. I know Walker is old (17+ as a soph) and has used his size and power to dominant younger/smaller players. As those players start to grow and mature they are passing him up and will continue to do so. 6"4 1/2 SF struggle at next level. He's not a pg.
Walker reminds me of shabazz Muhammad who was older stronger and dominated the
high school level had one decent season at ucla before going pro.While he has made
millions in the pro's you can't call him a bust but he never lived up to the hype he garnered
In high school. As jalen green continues to develop his body and get stronger he
is going to be a handful to deal with.
high school level had one decent season at ucla before going pro.While he has made
millions in the pro's you can't call him a bust but he never lived up to the hype he garnered
In high school. As jalen green continues to develop his body and get stronger he
is going to be a handful to deal with.
Jalen Green is already better then Kyree Walker imo and by senior year they won't even be comparable.
I think by the time their seniors, Jalen Green will hold his number 1 spot of the class while Walker will be in that 10-20 range. He was #1 at the start, started slipping down slowly and now he's sitting at #6.
I think by the time their seniors, Jalen Green will hold his number 1 spot of the class while Walker will be in that 10-20 range. He was #1 at the start, started slipping down slowly and now he's sitting at #6.
Bones/LOgan- Agreed and good comparison on Muhammad. He never really had a position either which is similar to Walker.
But in terms of MC, I like putting Oak Hill on the slate. MC will be real fun to watch next year and at least on paper should be the favorites in Norcal.
But in terms of MC, I like putting Oak Hill on the slate. MC will be real fun to watch next year and at least on paper should be the favorites in Norcal.
I don't think MC will get embarrassed either. I think it will be a good game. Is Walker going to re-classify? I think he should and just get to college a year earlier then he's currently scheduled. He doesn't need another year of development at a Prep school.
MC has a really strong program going on there with the Chuck Hayes AAU farm system. Junior Ballard is certainly going to be a tough loss as he was their bucket getter, Tyler Williams was also a really solid piece for them but I still have them as the favorites.
They got a couple of young guys that were big time players even last season the sophomore PG, Dathan Satchel and Aaron Murphy. Then they've got young guys that have been improving and might benefit with a bigger role like Baljot Sahi and the two tall athletic brothers.
But man, I'd kill to see Jalen Green on MC. I'm not huge on players transferring but Jalen Green in that system around a team that deep would be (in my opinion) by far the funnest team to watch for next season.
They got a couple of young guys that were big time players even last season the sophomore PG, Dathan Satchel and Aaron Murphy. Then they've got young guys that have been improving and might benefit with a bigger role like Baljot Sahi and the two tall athletic brothers.
But man, I'd kill to see Jalen Green on MC. I'm not huge on players transferring but Jalen Green in that system around a team that deep would be (in my opinion) by far the funnest team to watch for next season.
Never know, woodcreek put together great schedule for Jordan Brown senior year we saw how that played out.
The days of loyalty are long over. You have my word I will stay.. bahahhaha. Show me the money or freebies. Great example of Brown leaving. Green could end up anywhere and nobody on this board knows any different. MC with or without him is still loaded. And they always get talent in the offseason.
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