Oak Ridge vs McClatchy SMS vs Lincoln

[jazzpt55]

Que has got a beast of a team this time...
Already beat OR by 16 and beat Davis by 41....and Davis isn't bad
After watching Folsom at Lincoln...I see why teams have some sight line issues...
Too much open light colored space behind the basket....I know they put those dark panels behind the basket but it still would not be ideal for a young shooter ..
Losers of the two semi games don't make the CIF Open Seeding????

 

[ClayK]

If I understand it correctly, SJS will submit a list of teams to be considered for D1 to the new committee. Presumably that list will have six teams on it since it's possible two of the D1 teams could go Open (not likely, but possible). That list is supposed to be in rank order, and I believe that this year the committee has to respect that rank order, though I could be wrong. So the semi losers will have their names submitted and presumably slide up if any SJS D1 teams wind up in the Open.

 

[jazzpt55]

Anybody know, what time are the Semis
Next Tuesday at UOP?

 

[sfpreps]

Oak Ridge vs McClatchy at 6:30pm
Lincoln vs St. Mary's at 8:15 pm

Great matchup!

 

[cptmycpa]

The last time McClatchy played Oak Ridge was on December 22, at Oak Ridge, and beat Oak Ridge 59-43, WITHOUT 5-10 junior, Richelle Turney, who was still waiting out the transfer period (from Sacramento). She is a starter and big force now for McClatchy. Similar build and play to SHC's I. Thomas.

Oak Ridge's coach is very smart though. He will make this a low scoring game and slow the pace down considerably. Oak Ridge will use as much shot clock as possible.

 

[northbaybbguru]

Oak Ridge vs McClatchy at 6:30pm
Lincoln vs St. Mary's at 8:15 pm

Great matchup!

It will be a SMS vs. McClatchy D1 final.....BOOK IT

NOW.....

here's where it becomes VERY interesting....

the loser of that game will most likely be the 8 seed in the OPEN and get a 1st round
matchup with MITTY!!!!!

HOLY COW!! What a matchup that would be as BOTH SMS or McClatchy would definitely have a legit chance for the upset!

In fact if both teams were on opposite sides of the OPEN bracket it wouldn't shock me to see them meet in the OPEN final.

 

[basketba11]

So if two teams from SJS going to Open if St Mary's and McClatchy make it to D1 finals, which of these teams is dropped out?

Mitty
Carondelet
BOD
Pinewood
Cardinal Newman
SHC
Miramonte
Salesian

St Mary's
McClatchy

 

[basketba11]

It will be a SMS vs. McClatchy D1 final.....BOOK IT

NOW.....

here's where it becomes VERY interesting....

the loser of that game will most likely be the 8 seed in the OPEN and get a 1st round
matchup with MITTY!!!!!

HOLY COW!! What a matchup that would be as BOTH SMS or McClatchy would definitely have a legit chance for the upset!

In fact if both teams were on opposite sides of the OPEN bracket it wouldn't shock me to see them meet in the OPEN final.

NorthBay,

Not sure what gives you the indication that SMS or McClatchy could possibly upset Mitty? Just last week, every saying that the SMS injuries and their weak bench makes them perhaps the worst SMS team in many years. And McClatchy doesn't have any truly outstanding wins on their schedule that could justify them being able to compete with Mitty or any other of the Open division caliber teams. So they beat Sac High, Davis, and Oak Ridge? they have a win against Modesto Christian and Brookside Christian? Losses to SHC and St Ignatius. None of these wins really tell me that they are ready for a team like Mitty.

 

[earthquakes]

NorthBay,

Not sure what gives you the indication that SMS or McClatchy could possibly upset Mitty? Just last week, every saying that the SMS injuries and their weak bench makes them perhaps the worst SMS team in many years. And McClatchy doesn't have any truly outstanding wins on their schedule that could justify them being able to compete with Mitty or any other of the Open division caliber teams. So they beat Sac High, Davis, and Oak Ridge? they have a win against Modesto Christian and Brookside Christian? Losses to SHC and St Ignatius. None of these wins really tell me that they are ready for a team like Mitty.

unless the committee changes their mind, I thought no more than four teams from one section could go to the open, you had listed five from the NCS, so one of those 5 would stay in their natural division

 

[ClayK]

I think the SMS team that will play Saturday is much different than the team that ran out on the floor most of the season. I'm pretty sure there are five Power 5 players in uniform for SMS, and even Mitty doesn't have that many elite players. Now depth is an issue, but SMS has more top-shelf talent at today's practice than most leagues could muster. (Our Diablo Athletic League's all-league team would most likely lose by 20, and we have some pretty good players ...)

The interesting question would be a McClatchy upset in a close game against SMS -- would the committee then take both? Or what if McClatchy only loses by two to SMS? And let's not forget Vanden, Modesto Christian, Sacramento and Elk Grove in SJS D2. Sacramento might not make it due to the number of losses, but the other three are legit candidates as well.

And so, to be fair, is Miramonte if we win NCS D2, along with Cardinal Newman, O'Dowd, Carondelet, Mitty, SHC and Pinewood.

All of this leads me to believe Clovis West will stay in the South, by the way ...

 

[CamAca]

I think the SMS team that will play Saturday is much different than the team that ran out on the floor most of the season. I'm pretty sure there are five Power 5 players in uniform for SMS, and even Mitty doesn't have that many elite players. Now depth is an issue, but SMS has more top-shelf talent at today's practice than most leagues could muster. (Our Diablo Athletic League's all-league team would most likely lose by 20, and we have some pretty good players ...)

The interesting question would be a McClatchy upset in a close game against SMS -- would the committee then take both? Or what if McClatchy only loses by two to SMS? And let's not forget Vanden, Modesto Christian, Sacramento and Elk Grove in SJS D2. Sacramento might not make it due to the number of losses, but the other three are legit candidates as well.

And so, to be fair, is Miramonte if we win NCS D2, along with Cardinal Newman, O'Dowd, Carondelet, Mitty, SHC and Pinewood.

All of this leads me to believe Clovis West will stay in the South, by the way ...

I don't think any of the 4 D2 teams you just mentioned could beat MM accept Vanden might have a slim chance because Julia Blackshell-Fair is special. They just aren't that strong IMHO

 

[basketba11]

I think the SMS team that will play Saturday is much different than the team that ran out on the floor most of the season. I'm pretty sure there are five Power 5 players in uniform for SMS, and even Mitty doesn't have that many elite players. Now depth is an issue, but SMS has more top-shelf talent at today's practice than most leagues could muster. (Our Diablo Athletic League's all-league team would most likely lose by 20, and we have some pretty good players ...)

The interesting question would be a McClatchy upset in a close game against SMS -- would the committee then take both? Or what if McClatchy only loses by two to SMS? And let's not forget Vanden, Modesto Christian, Sacramento and Elk Grove in SJS D2. Sacramento might not make it due to the number of losses, but the other three are legit candidates as well.

And so, to be fair, is Miramonte if we win NCS D2, along with Cardinal Newman, O'Dowd, Carondelet, Mitty, SHC and Pinewood.

All of this leads me to believe Clovis West will stay in the South, by the way ...

Last Friday, I posted this list. Still think this could be possible. If CKM were to win SJS Section D1 Championship over St Mary's though, then I think they both should get pulled into Open. If CKM loses, maybe just SMS should go. Don't think any of the D2 SJS teams are better than any of the list below.

1.Mitty
2.Carondelet
3.BOD
4.Pinewood
5.CN
6.SHC
7.St Mary's
8.Miramonte
These are the 8 best teams and would have some really good matchups. Mitty/Pinewood and BOD/St Mary's would be interesting semi-final games in my opinion.
Out-McClatchy,Salesian,Campo,Heritage

 

[Streak One]

If I understand it correctly, SJS will submit a list of teams to be considered for D1 to the new committee. Presumably that list will have six teams on it since it's possible two of the D1 teams could go Open (not likely, but possible). That list is supposed to be in rank order, and I believe that this year the committee has to respect that rank order, though I could be wrong. So the semi losers will have their names submitted and presumably slide up if any SJS D1 teams wind up in the Open.

The SJS hasn't back filled in the past so this would be new. I liked their stance over the NCS sending teams that lose in the section quarterfinals.

 

[basketba11]

The SJS hasn't back filled in the past so this would be new. I liked their stance over the NCS sending teams that lose in the section quarterfinals.

SJS really hasn't needed to back fill. Only St Mary's goes to Open usually.

 

[Streak One]

Brookside and Sac High have each gone twice too.

 

[northbaybbguru]

NorthBay,

Not sure what gives you the indication that SMS or McClatchy could possibly upset Mitty? Just last week, every saying that the SMS injuries and their weak bench makes them perhaps the worst SMS team in many years. And McClatchy doesn't have any truly outstanding wins on their schedule that could justify them being able to compete with Mitty or any other of the Open division caliber teams. So they beat Sac High, Davis, and Oak Ridge? they have a win against Modesto Christian and Brookside Christian? Losses to SHC and St Ignatius. None of these wins really tell me that they are ready for a team like Mitty.

SMS has not been at full strength all year as Naje Murray(SDSU) JUST returned...and DeCosta is now back also after her minor meniscus surgery. SMS now has 5 healthy starters who are top 50 in their respective classes. You better believe that SMS can beat Mitty in a 1 game winner take all scenario. Sleep on SMS at your own peril.

McClatchy is another team who hasn't been at full strength all yr. They recently had their stud transfer get eligible and they have had some struggles early on but (according to my SJS spies)are now hitting on all cylinders.
Much like their D1 state championship team 2 yrs ago who also had some early struggles but caught fire and put it all together at the end of the season, so goes this McClatchy team. They go 10 or 11 deep with athletes and if they truly have figured it out....watch out!.

 

[northbaybbguru]

by the way as of today....this is how I would have the OPEN 8


1 Mitty vs. 8 McClatchy
2 CLET vs. 7 Pinewood/SHC
3 BOD vs. 6 SHC/Pinewood
4 CN/SMS vs. 5 CN/SMS

the section winners get the top 5 seeds....
the section runner ups fill out the matchups
no sections play each other in the 1st round.
whomever comes in 2nd in CCS gets 6 seed....3rd gets 7th seed.
CN and SMS play each other as 4/5...committee decides who gets home game....
if McClatchy beats SMS switch MC and SMS.

CLAYK should like that OPEN bracket

 

[ClayK]

I do like that Open bracket ... otherwise we get Mitty in the first round, and we definitely don't go 10 deep like McClatchy.

It looks like to me that Clovis West will stay South, as the limit on Southern Section teams (only four, though probably six should go) means it will be hard to find eight qualified teams otherwise.

That's a very tough draw for Cardinal Newman, though, as SMS today should be the second seed, but off the body of work would probably be four. It will be interesting to see how the new committee sorts this all out. If they favor section champs just because they're section champs, then Miramonte (assuming a win in NCS) might go in over McClatchy.

March 5 will be an interesting day.

 

[Paytc]

I do like that Open bracket ... otherwise we get Mitty in the first round, and we definitely don't go 10 deep like McClatchy.

It looks like to me that Clovis West will stay South, as the limit on Southern Section teams (only four, though probably six should go) means it will be hard to find eight qualified teams otherwise.

That's a very tough draw for Cardinal Newman, though, as SMS today should be the second seed, but off the body of work would probably be four. It will be interesting to see how the new committee sorts this all out. If they favor section champs just because they're section champs, then Miramonte (assuming a win in NCS) might go in over McClatchy.

March 5 will be an interesting day.

Not sure I agree with you SMS should be second seed today. Because body of work ( not speculation) is typically what seeds (and rankings) should be determined by. But I agree with a healthy Murry and DeCosta SMS no matter where you place them will be talented enough to go all the way. There are a few other teams that may also prove to be worthy at put up or shut up time. So though Mitty may be the favorites, I don't think there will be any automatic wins for anyone.

 

[RespectBBGame]

SMS will beat Lincoln because DeCosta is back. McClatchy will be Oak Ridge is an understatement because they beat theme before without Cruz. SMS vs McClatchy will be a real good game but I think McClatchy is deeper on the bench.

The Open anybody could win.

1) Mitty
2) Carondelet
3) BOD
4) SMS or McClatchy
5) CN or Salesian
6) SHC or Pinewood
7) McClatchy or SMS
8) MM

The question is what divisions will the committee make SHC or Pinewood play in. Think about what they did with football teams in Norcal. Teams taught they'were going to play in their division bit move them up and others down. I think with Pinewood the would move up to D4 and SHC to D2 because the both won State Championship in the Division.

The biggest questions what will the committee do. They didn't follow ranking for football what makes anyone think they will with girls basketball?? Everyone will know on March 5. It going to be interesting!!!!!

 

[ClayK]

My understanding is that this year the sections will submit the teams by the division they play in at the section level. Some will go Open but the rest will stay in those divisions.

Next year, the committee can put teams in whatever NorCal division they want.

 

[northbaybbguru]

I do like that Open bracket ... otherwise we get Mitty in the first round, and we definitely don't go 10 deep like McClatchy.

It looks like to me that Clovis West will stay South, as the limit on Southern Section teams (only four, though probably six should go) means it will be hard to find eight qualified teams otherwise.

That's a very tough draw for Cardinal Newman, though, as SMS today should be the second seed, but off the body of work would probably be four. It will be interesting to see how the new committee sorts this all out. If they favor section champs just because they're section champs, then Miramonte (assuming a win in NCS) might go in over McClatchy.

March 5 will be an interesting day.

I agree Miramonte could be the 8th seed over SJS runner up. That is a definite possibility.

 

[RespectBBGame]

Clay

I think is good to have an outside committee because that gives Checks and Balances. If they feel teams are put in the wrong divisions they will move them up or down. Just think if Pinewood wasn't going to the Open do anyone think they belong in D5 ??

Another think McClatchy is very talented when they are fully healthy like they are right now. More like they will be in the open!! I think the might even beat SMS because they know each other and Coach Que coach all of the starters at one time or another except the freshman.

 

[cptmycpa]

Keys to an Oak Ridge win:
1. Do exactly what they did last year against McClatchy--a low scoring game, 40-33. http://www.maxpreps.com/games/girls...ak-ridge/2-25-2016-1HDmGntQgkCV_T-rBhBwdg.htm
2. Half court offense. Use the shot clock to its fullest.
3. Deliberate shot selection. Get the ball to tall post players and take shots in the key.
4. Don't get into a running game with McClatchy.

Keys to a McClatchy win:
1. Full-court pressure defense
2. Stifling defensive pressure to create turnovers
3. Deny the ball to Oak Ridge's tallest players
4. Block out the key for defensive rebounds
5. Substitute a lot, using all 10 players to create frantic defensive pressure throughout the whole game.
6. Use speed to create all of the above

Luckily this is a neutral site this time, compared to last year's 2nd round game.
Oak Ridge High School basketball spectators accused of racial taunts
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/education/article65130847.html

 

[jazzpt55]

Why would having the game at UOP
Change this behavior?

 

[RespectBBGame]

Jazzpt55

2 things change!!! 1st no a cake walk like the first to games like always get set up to make to Norcal. 2nd on that side of the bracket Oak Ridge was on had no speed and quickness at guard play. The side that McClatchy had all speed and roughness at all positions. UOP court is long so quickness will be a keys when McClatchy start run. I think McClatchy going to try to make a big statement because of the lose last year.

 

[SouthBayHoopFan]

I think McClatchy going to try to make a big state because of the lose last year.

California is a big state, so I guess McClatchy will have the advantage.

 

[jazzpt55]

The behavior I was talking about is the racial nonsense....

 

[RespectBBGame]

Southbay
Good catch but I mean statement !!

Jazzpt
You almost never can change racial nonsense because it most taught by their parents!!! I call jealous in the sport world either way!!!! In every race there are ignorant people!!!!