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Official CIF Regional Bowl /State Bowl Pairings

Interesting that Rancho Cotate beat both section winners Windsor and Vanden this season, but slipped up against Foothill.
I think the Millard coaching staff over at Foothill is really making a difference. They gave Campolindo all they could handle last night. Even though Campo beat SRV in the playoffs, earlier in the season SRV easily beat Foothill 42-0.
 
I think the Millard coaching staff over at Foothill is really making a difference. They gave Campolindo all they could handle last night. Even though Campo beat SRV in the playoffs, earlier in the season SRV easily beat Foothill 42-0.
Really impresed with them. Man Keith is not short of energy thats for sure lol. And the defensive scheme his kid threw at Rancho was really impressive as well. No one shut them down like that all year.
 
I am just Curious…. How did Serra Have a Better Resume?…

The way I see it they beat a team DLS lost to. It’s that simple.

Sure, we all know they both lost to the same team. But one team also owns a win over that team and the other doesn’t.

It can be debated whether DLS coulda shoulda woulda won a rematch, but the fact is they don’t have the revenge win over SF that Serra does. Therein lies the difference to me.

If roles were reversed I’d be in favor of DLS for the same reason.
 
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Really impresed with them. Man Keith is not short of energy thats for sure lol. And the defensive scheme his kid threw at Rancho was really impressive as well. No one shut them down like that all year.

and being a fan of Cal High football, I don't want to like Foothill 😀😀
 
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The way I see it they beat a team DLS lost to. It’s that simple.

Sure, we all know they both lost to the same team. But one team also owns a win over that team and the other doesn’t.

It can be debated whether DLS coulda shoulda woulda won a rematch, but the fact is they don’t have the revenge win over SF that Serra does. Therein lies the difference to me.

If roles were reversed I’d be in favor of DLS for the same reason.
If people would just bother to read the CIF guidelines, it would save them (and the rest of us) a lot of anguish.

Now, we have to not only hear about Folsom for eternity, we’ll have people crying about this bowl selection.
 
As usual, you give no list of reasons why Serra today is better than DLS.
They got picked for the OPEN as I predicted.

Obviously many more people felt as I do.

Serra is better. Serra is in the open.

DLS has to prove their metal again against Folsom and earn a SBG. How it should be. Enjoy. :)
 
Agree 100%. DLS has better resume than Serra, but there was a small window to allow Serra, so the committee took it.
Disagree. Serra has a better resume with a win against SF which DLS didn't have

Serra is better. Serra to the OPEN.
 
DLS is Just far superior and is playing excellent. Your first meeting wasn’t close. Why would this one be? 3TD + favorite. Terrible matchup.
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Great you guys beat rocklin with there backup qb.
Ouch. A little upset your prediction for the Rocklin game was a bit off? Lol

Rocklin also beat Folsom with a back up QB.

And actually- outside of a bad start by Folsom early in the year, the game wasn't that bad overall. Folsom is hot now and it reminds of of 2010 when everyone wrote them off against Grant.

I don't think you should he commenting on superiority, when you're actively promoting Division 6 backyard football games in which both teams are a 50 point underdog against Folsom or Rocklin.

When is Oak Ridge going to step up and beat Folsom BTW?
 
If people would just bother to read the CIF guidelines, it would save them (and the rest of us) a lot of anguish.

Now, we have to not only hear about Folsom for eternity, we’ll have people crying about this bowl selection.
Ha! Cal14......We know this all goes with the territory........annually. (or perhaps anally?) Every year starting mid to late summer we read posters' predictions and hopes eternal about what their teams might/should do this upcoming season, some based on the stats and success of the previous season much based on unrequitted fantasy dreams.
Then we get to the playoffs and bowl assignments and there is the gnashing of teeth when some posters feel that their teams got passed over, unfairly paired up or just got poked in the pooch with regards to post season grabs for the elusive brass (S-Bowl) ring. Like the guaranteed car crash on your nearby freeway as you try to get your family to the airport for the holiday getaway, you can set your calendar by all of the above.......only....X...... amount of days of bemoaning until New Year's arrive.
 
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Look at the bright side, not being chosen for the open division spares DLS an ass whoopin at the hands of Mater Dei. Serra gets that honor this year.
Don't think the Spartans see it so much as a painful & humiliating smash mouth experience as much as a learning exercise. Surely the Seniors would like to close out the year with a final "W" on their 4 year results resume. But for the younger players they will learn from the experience into the oncoming years .........Never Lose, Win or Learn.
Feel that the disappointment of DLS missing the Open Division is that not going is missing out on the higher challenge. It's in their approach to playing the game, going back to 2001 when they first took on the Jack Rabbits of Long Beach Poly and has continued with their OOS scheduling of high nationally ranked teams right up thru this year with the SFA/Baltimore match up. For the Spartans no team is unbeatable. The 'oft worn phrase.......That's Why They Play the Game.....

Good Luck to Coach Walsh and The Serra Pad's in their journey down south.
 
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The way I see it they beat a team DLS lost to. It’s that simple.

Sure, we all know they both lost to the same team. But one team also owns a win over that team and the other doesn’t.

It can be debated whether DLS coulda shoulda woulda won a rematch, but the fact is they don’t have the revenge win over SF that Serra does. Therein lies the difference to me.

If roles were reversed I’d be in favor of DLS for the same reason.
I am of the feeling that the overall body of work by DLS is better than Serra, but looking through the eyes of the CIF I knew the inability to avenge their loss to SF would haunt them.

And to the poster who said in another post that out state Losses don't get considered in picking the Open rep, not true. They used the Don Bosco loss as the primary reason they chose Grant over DLS in 08. Had DLS won that game, it would have made the decision much more difficult when deciding between the 2. All the more reason their should be regional to decide open.
 
I am of the feeling that the overall body of work by DLS is better than Serra, but looking through the eyes of the CIF I knew the inability to avenge their loss to SF would haunt them.

And to the poster who said in another post that out state Losses don't get considered in picking the Open rep, not true. They used the Don Bosco loss as the primary reason they chose Grant over DLS in 08. Had DLS won that game, it would have made the decision much more difficult when deciding between the 2. All the more reason their should be regional to decide open.
Totally Agree!!…. I am the one who said the out of State Losses are not supposed to be considered which actually is true in the new system since the Folsom rule…. The only thing that matters is the record against Nor Cal Teams….

You are 100% Correct, when Grant was picked over DLS it was because DLS had the loss to Don Bosco…. Plus I believe Grant Beat a UT State Champ and Another State Champ so they had a Pretty Good Resume….
 
Asked previously by someone, but I didn't see a answer. Was Saint Francis ineligible for a bowl game because they didn't win the CCS Open.
 
I printed up a tee shirt for the open game that reads “Catholics vs Catholic convicts “

My prediction is 62-6 convicts.
 
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Asked previously by someone, but I didn't see a answer. Was Saint Francis ineligible for a bowl game because they didn't win the CCS Open.
Yes, only section winners advance to bowl games. NCS has a "sneaky" open division loophole, where the loser of the open championship (to DLS) drops to the NCS D1 title game and can advance as a winner of NCS D1.

The CCS has no such rule, therefore St.. Francis historic season is now over. CCS also has no open they just put the top 8 schools, based on a point system that only PALbooster and a NASA computer understand, into DI.
 
Yes, only section winners advance to bowl games. NCS has a "sneaky" open division loophole, where the loser of the open championship (to DLS) drops to the NCS D1 title game and can advance as a winner of NCS D1.

The CCS has no such rule, therefore St.. Francis historic season is now over. CCS also has no open they just put the top 8 schools, based on a point system that only PALbooster and a NASA computer understand, into DI.
Yes! But don’t forget the CCS was the OG on manipulating playoff structures and formats to bypass the SBG criteria.
 
Totally Agree!!…. I am the one who said the out of State Losses are not supposed to be considered which actually is true in the new system since the Folsom rule…. The only thing that matters is the record against Nor Cal Teams….

You are 100% Correct, when Grant was picked over DLS it was because DLS had the loss to Don Bosco…. Plus I believe Grant Beat a UT State Champ and Another State Champ so they had a Pretty Good Resume….
Don't get me wrong, Grant had an awesome team that year and we are all full of a bunch of opinions when we try to debate who would win in a match that didn't happen and never will, meaning had Grant and DLS met that year, but the 2 teams Grant beat were nowhere near the level of Don Bosco, but the fact DLS lost made it an easy pick.

If the CIF no longer considers OOS games than it would have been very interesting to see how the CIF would have gone had DLS won their OOS game. I guarantee these boards would be lit up if DLS had a win against the #5 national ranked team.

Just more support towards the idea the teams need to play it out instead of having a group of people deciding the fate of these teams
 
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Mark Tennis of CalHiSports said it best in this week's rankings article regarding the 2008 Grant over DLS pick:

" The last time De La Salle was not in the Open Division was in 2008 when then Sac-Joaquin Section commissioner Pete Saco convinced enough of his colleagues that Sacramento Grant’s wins over state champions from Idaho and Utah was such a big deal that they voted for the Pacers over the Spartans. In that year, though, it didn’t matter because many in SoCal thought that the team De La Salle played in D1, Corona Centennial, was better than the Long Beach Poly team that Grant played and beat."

 
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Mark Tennis of CalHiSports said it best in this week's rankings article regarding the 2008 Grant over DLS pick:

" The last time De La Salle was not in the Open Division was in 2008 when then Sac-Joaquin Section commissioner Pete Saco convinced enough of his colleagues that Sacramento Grant’s wins over state champions from Idaho and Utah was such a big deal that they voted for the Pacers over the Spartans. In that year, though, it didn’t matter because many in SoCal thought that the team De La Salle played in D1, Corona Centennial, was better than the Long Beach Poly team that Grant played and beat."

Yep i remember how much the SoCal folks complained about the SoCal pick as well. I watched both games and I agree with the fans. That Cen10 team was special and they were mean and nasty on Defense with Vontaze Burfict leading the way. I firmly believe Cen10 should have been the open that year for SoCal. I'm not convinced DLS was better than Grant, but a game between those 2 that year would had been nice to eliminate all debate between the 2
 
I am just Curious…. How did Serra Have a Better Resume?….. Did Serra even Try to play a Top National Team?…. Out of state Losses are not supposed to be counted in picking the Open Rep…..

Sera Beat No one this year other then SF by 3 points and also lost by 20 points to SF…. What is worse, a 20 point loss to SF or a 14 point loss to Nationally Ranked SFA?….

DLS beat 3 Section Champs By 3+TD’s and lost by 3 Points to SF in a Game DLS had the lead….. DLS did not get the Chance to Play SF again like Serra did….

So how does Serra have a Better Resume?… It better because Serra Choses to Duck Top Competition and only play games they don’t have a chance of losing?….

There is really no argument for Serra to be in the Open…. The CIF did this because there was a Crack in The window to put someone else The Open other then DLS and The CIF took it….

We are finally at the Point where enough is enough…. Bring Back The Open Playoff game and let’s these kids earn it on the field…, If you can’t beat DLS in a Playoff game, too bad, you go home….
Agree 100%. Serra in the 1-AA bracket really makes those 4 teams and games a pick em. Serra in the open is a running clock and they kids probably shut down when it becomes embarrassing. DLS will run the 1-AA to a state title. The only positive here is Folsom gets DLS finally a decade after the rule they lobbied for to avoid them. For that I tip my hat to SF thank you boys.
 
Yeah I was thinking the same. Little Trivia for you. Cronin beat vanden in 2020 short season while at newman 28-21. Vanden kept kicking to Tsion Nunnally. Bad idea. This is a very winnable game for Windsor. I wouldn’t be surprised Cronin taking another team to state game.
It should be a good game. Their only common opponent was Rancho Cotate. Vanden lost to Rancho in OT, and Windsor lost 28-27 after Rancho blocked Windsors extra pt attempt in the 4th qtr.
 
It should be a good game. Their only common opponent was Rancho Cotate. Vanden lost to Rancho in OT, and Windsor lost 28-27 after Rancho blocked Windsors extra pt attempt in the 4th qtr.
Agree. Vanden throws it really well. I just never doubt Cronin with a week to prepare and his prior knowledge of vanden.
 
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