Serra vs. SI

[RiordanGael]

Again, the SHC points to education. They must realize many of the FB players are not doing well at SHC and they might be looking for better fit. Education is the primary goal at the prep level.

"Sounds very much like the GOP format of setting up an excuse as they will need it soon"

Let me ask just one question?
"Why are we discussing a football program that is shut down"?

At this point, most true fans shut it down, they lick their wounds and they move on. The SHC fan who has no realistic expectations rises up to make unrealistic predictions for next year in a sense of comfort food for the soul.

May I suggest a stop at Barns & Noble and a purchase of "HS prep Football for Dummies". It might be a good read for the off season (LOL)

Just my opinion...I could be wrong?
J2

 

[Scott2138]

Again, the SHC points to education. They must realize many of the FB are not doing well at SHC and they might be looking for better fit.

Sounds very much like the GOP format of setting up and excuse as they will need it soon.

Let me ask just one question?
"Why are we discussing a football program that is shut down"?

At this point, most true fans shut it down, they lick their wounds and they move on. The fan who has no realistic expectations rises up to make unrealistic predictions fir next year in a sense of comfort food for the soul,

May I suggest a stop at Barns & Noble and s purchase "

Why do you write then, if you can call it writing. Wait, it is obvious you don't know how to write or spell! Have I not said, Riordan had a great year and SHC can use improvement in football? But you repeatedly pile on the rude comments not realizing that you could be defending Reardan in the same manner next year. To be clear, I am strictly talking about the "solvency" of the school, not touting anything else. It is Barnes and Nobles not Barn and Nobles, you clown. Congrats again for having a great football season. I just may read that book but only if you write it. NOT.

 

[FUBO]

Your horrible grammar and spelling is the least of your problems. Listen, if it wasn't for Riordan's "smart" international students who sacrifice a kidney and a spleen attending a San Francisco school, I dare say the school would be closed. So dropping out of the WCAL for football temporarily is one thing, but keeping kids locked up because they don't like mommy/daddy or home is another. Look up Niche and see where Riordan ranks as an academic institution. There should be no comment after this from the peanut gallery.

ReardanGal
We R one

Scott you have officially joined the elite SHC moron brigade. Riordan accepts kids with diagnosed learning disabilities and has a separate specialized program that helps them succeed. Their traditional test scores have an effect on the overall numbers but those students eventually go on to become college graduates. The international students are here because their parents have money and foresight and know how important it is for them to have ties and knowledge of the greatest economic power in the world. I'm sure your Dance and Mime programs attract the best of the best in San Francisco. There is a reason Riordan is growing stronger as an all male school while yours is becoming feminized through enrollment and philosophy.
The Gael-Hater Rikfan has actually boasted about the frosh team level being "turned around". He is still trying to blame Lee who hasn't been there in three years. That is typical SHC.
SHC: SEVEN years with zero WCAL wins outside of SF. Owners of an ongoing 22 game WCAL losing streak. If Rikfan wants to see the worst WCAL crushing loss ever, this years loss to VC by SHC varsity may have been the worst performance ever in the WCAL.

 

[TMJA]

After 14 minutes, it's Serra 35, SI 0. Ouch. And at the half, it's Serra 56, SI 0. What in the name of Vince Tringali is going on out there in Jesuit country?

SI has always struggled with Serra for some time now.

 

[RiordanGael]

Why do you write then, if you can call it writing. Wait, it is obvious you don't know how to write or spell! Have I not said, Riordan had a great year and SHC can use improvement in football? But you repeatedly pile on the rude comments not realizing that you could be defending Reardan in the same manner next year. To be clear, I am strictly talking about the "solvency" of the school, not touting anything else. It is Barnes and Nobles not Barn and Nobles, you clown. Congrats again for having a great football season. I just may read that book but only if you write it. NOT.

WOW,

I really hit a nerve....keep it on tap for next year. "If you don't remember the past, your doomed to repeat it"

Just my opinion...I could be wrong?

 

[Scott2138]

Scott you have officially joined the elite SHC moron brigade. Riordan accepts kids with diagnosed learning disabilities and has a separate specialized program that helps them succeed. Their traditional test scores have an effect on the overall numbers but those students eventually go on to become college graduates. The international students are here because their parents have money and foresight and know how important it is for them to have ties and knowledge of the greatest economic power in the world. I'm sure your Dance and Mime programs attract the best of the best in San Francisco. There is a reason Riordan is growing stronger as an all male school while yours is becoming feminized through enrollment and philosophy.
The Gael-Hater Rikfan has actually boasted about the frosh team level being "turned around". He is still trying to blame Lee who hasn't been there in three years. That is typical SHC.
SHC: SEVEN years with zero WCAL wins outside of SF. Owners of an ongoing 22 game WCAL losing streak. If Rikfan wants to see the worst WCAL crushing loss ever, this years loss to VC by SHC varsity may have been the worst performance ever in the WCAL.

That would explain you. Thank you.

 

[Rikfran]

Scott you have officially joined the elite SHC moron brigade. Riordan accepts kids with diagnosed learning disabilities and has a separate specialized program that helps them succeed. Their traditional test scores have an effect on the overall numbers but those students eventually go on to become college graduates. The international students are here because their parents have money and foresight and know how important it is for them to have ties and knowledge of the greatest economic power in the world. I'm sure your Dance and Mime programs attract the best of the best in San Francisco. There is a reason Riordan is growing stronger as an all male school while yours is becoming feminized through enrollment and philosophy.
The Gael-Hater Rikfan has actually boasted about the frosh team level being "turned around". He is still trying to blame Lee who hasn't been there in three years. That is typical SHC.
SHC: SEVEN years with zero WCAL wins outside of SF. Owners of an ongoing 22 game WCAL losing streak. If Rikfan wants to see the worst WCAL crushing loss ever, this years loss to VC by SHC varsity may have been the worst performance ever in the WCAL.

Don't hate Riordan. Just hate the idiots like you who lie and make up things. Hey idiot, SHC had a decimated team when they faced Valley. I was there and watched it moron. Which was proved right when they put a big scare on St. Francis just a few weeks later when they got most of their players back. I guess you didn't witness a couple of the beatings SHC put on Riordan a few years ago.

 

[RiordanGael]

Very well articulated points FUBU,

But the more I think about it, let's move board banter to teams that are still playing. This has been a interesting season and Serra deserves more discussion and admiration for making a stand vs. this program for being Sub Par as usual.

Does anyone care about team not playing...

 

[Rikfran]

Only you Riordan Gael would find Fubo to be well articulated. And I think your youngest son was on one of those Riordan teams that were blown out by SHC.Enjoy the one and done year. One year does not make a program. 4 WCAL wins in the prior 7 years is Riordans past. And 1 WCAL win over the last 3 years for your freshman teams (while being out scored 1184 to 199 over those 3 season with teams playing their reserves in the second half for almost every game) represents their future.

This all started with you bs lies about transfers.

 

[RiordanGael]

Thank you for knowing so much about me...you're a sweetheart(lol)

Your preoccupation with the revamping of the Crusader FB is truly welcomed. I just want to point out that we are 1year post the Lee era. I believe you are 3 years out, with worseing results...what's happening?' That antidote is scary itself...

It takes a complete overhaul....if you try and blame student loyalty, academic success vs. failure or facilities. You are completely coming up short....look at the "Man in the mirror" and make that change.

Start the hard work and stop focusing on Riordan. It seems we have a plan...and guess what?

It is working....

If you have issues about players making statement post a game....don't hate or insult the reporter....

 

[OneDNA]

You are losing your credibility. Your education shows. Good for Riordan for the one year class they bought. Congrats. Enjoy your one year of success. But as we see, there was not much before and after. Ever wonder why that happened?

SHC seniors and juniors did not win a WCAL game their freshman year. Seniors had some talent, but had some bad luck injuries both their freshman year and this year.

SHC is feeling the end of the Lee program this year on the upper level and the tide will turn.

LOL at you dude. Make all the fun you want. But Coach P has the program turning around on the bottom end. Can't say that for Riordan. Have to laugh at Rabbit with all the excuses he makes. I don't think I have seen a freshman team get crushed as much as Riordan two years in a row. (But there is a lot of talent there - LOL!)

My mistake, I forgot to add the worst football program in history from the City I should have figured some of you would just reference the 2000s but realize, one program completele quit and cried uncle and dropped out of THE League. While another has continued to play and has shown signs if success even after downtrodden years. The title in 2000 and in 07. Never did we cry uncle and leave to be an independent. Never dod we have to petition to get back into the League because they were quitters to begin with. I guess thats what enablers do, when they can't accept reality they quit and give in. So apologies for my original post. It ahould have read the worst football program in the history of the City. I hope for your sakes you guys DO WIN a game next year, so theres not talk of crying uncle again and quitting THE League. After all theres precedence for that at that school in the Tenderloin, "Cathedral Hill".

 

[Irish_Cheers]

Ah, ignorance. The school never had to "petition" to get back into the league. They could have re-joined at any time. When Riordan quits the league and starts playing Alma Heights Christian in the 8-man Mission Trail League let me know. That's if they don't close first.

Yes it "can happen".

 

[OneDNA]

h, ignorance. The school never had to "petition" to get back into the league. They could have re-joined at any time. When Riordan quits the league and starts playing 8-man let me know.

Will never happen. Quitting is not in the vocabulary. You guys set the precedence, so maybe its coming back around...say it! SAY IT! U-N-C-L-E! The rest of the League is waiting.

 

[Rikfran]

Thank you for knowing so much about me...you're a sweetheart(lol)

Your preoccupation with the revamping of the Crusader FB is truly welcomed. I just want to point out that we are 1year post the Lee era. I believe you are 3 years out, with worseing results...what's happening?' That antidote is scary itself...

It takes a complete overhaul....if you try and blame student loyalty, academic success vs. failure or facilities. You are completely coming up short....look at the "Man in the mirror" and make that change.

Start the hard work and stop focusing on Riordan. It seems we have a plan...and guess what?

It is working....

If you have issues about players making statement post a game....don't hate or insult the reporter....

Yes it takes a complete overhaul from top to bottom. That is what SHC is doing. No more any preoccupation with Riordan than you with SHC. Again, this all started with your lies about SHC as confirmed by some of the people you know well at SHC who have communicated to you about it.

At the high school level, it is about having talent and numbers. Riordan had a large talented senior class that came in before Lee. No doubt that the new coaching helped some this year, but there was the talent and depth there to win. If you notice, I have never ripped the coaches. But at the end of the day it is about building up the classes below to feed the top and to do it continuously. If you want to call what has happened with Riordan's lower classes a plan that is working, more power to you.

As to SHC, it hasn't been worsening results. It's literally same results with the thin classes that came in under Lee. Throw in the devastating injuries they have had this year including losing their QB first game of the year. I think the testament to the coach staff was the effort the team put out against Mitty their last game. I am glad you feel SHC's antidote is scary with the younger classes they are building up.

 

[RiordanGael]

Please SHC poster, let me be very clear ...I don't care what happens at SHC.

The difference in you and me, Is j just posted what I was told by players and parents.

The rest is history, since your season is over. Whatever you post is not going to change or revise history?

So read my lips, "Your post are truly insignificant"

Just my opinion...I could be wrong?
j2

 

[RiordanGael]

Ah, ignorance. The school never had to "petition" to get back into the league. They could have re-joined at any time. When Riordan quits the league and starts playing 8-man let me know.

I believe Mr. Direct answered this question about SHC not able to withdraw from league for FB. I also did research on this, if the try they will have to vacate all sports...which would be a shame for a coaches and players that has worked his butts off at SHC.

Please stop trying to revise history on This issue...

When SHC returned, they had to petition league and I believe the other league members had to vote for their return. Thus no escape route allowed...

 

[rabbit5]

You are losing your credibility. Your education shows. Good for Riordan for the one year class they bought. Congrats. Enjoy your one year of success. But as we see, there was not much before and after. Ever wonder why that happened?

SHC seniors and juniors did not win a WCAL game their freshman year. Seniors had some talent, but had some bad luck injuries both their freshman year and this year.

SHC is feeling the end of the Lee program this year on the upper level and the tide will turn.

LOL at you dude. Make all the fun you want. But Coach P has the program turning around on the bottom end. Can't say that for Riordan. Have to laugh at Rabbit with all the excuses he makes. I don't think I have seen a freshman team get crushed as much as Riordan two years in a row. (But there is a lot of talent there - LOL!)

@rikfan you and Irish jeers are fools, but you already knew that, let's just wait and see what program is best in the next few years, stop the comparing and let the play on the field speak for itself?

Calling freshman football players out is insane especially when you really do not understand exactly what went on with that team. The scores are horrible but only paint a partial picture of those players abilities. Freshman scores mean nothing in reality, what is meaningful is development through the spring and summer for that group. We all know that this is the time to get better and a good program will make that happen.

 

[Irish_Cheers]

When SHC returned, they had to petition league and I believe the other league members had to vote for their return. Thus no escape route allowed...

I never heard a word like that. All I was told was the Irish are in the WCAL to stay, straight from Gary Cannon himself, much to your chagrin. So Riordan can leave and join the AAA if they want. Even if it were true, I can't imagine coaches not voting the team back in. SHC has had much better teams than Riordan has since re-joining the WCAL in 2008.

Also, if "[you] don't care what happens at SHC" then quit posting and take Fool-bo, Rubbit.5 and ONEbraincell with you.

 

[Irish_Cheers]

Freshman scores mean nothing in reality, what is meaningful is development through the spring and summer for that group. We all know that this is the time to get better and a good program will make that happen.

Then explain WCAL freshman teams that are already good and that SHC's frosh have defeated. These guys beat league champ VC, came within one play of beating Serra and twice beat S.I., Riordan and St. Francis.

How can you see a dead-last place team give up 429 points in 9 games on the year with a dozen players quitting and see anything positive? You'd be the biggest boaster if Riordan went 8-1 and you know it. Why brush it off just because SHC had two good years in a row with another good set of players on the way?

Any young players considering Riordan will be in for a rude awakening. The winners will be wearing green and white uniforms. Coach John Kruger took over as SHC's Frosh head coach in 2014 and it's no coincidence at the back-to-back 6-3 records.

Re: Rubbit5: "The scores are horrible but only paint a partial picture of those players abilities".

Well if giving up nearly 60 points per game, having 1/3 of the team quit because of demoralizing losses where opponents put their second stringers in by the 2nd quarter only indicates a "partial picture of those players' abilities" then I'd hate to see how bad it really is.

Sacred Heart Cathedral Frosh 2015

W 38-20 College Park
W 30-20 Monte Vista
W C A L

L 20-0 Valley Christian
W 33-14 St. Ignatius
W 28-21 St. Francis
L 41-7 Serra
L 14-6 Bellarmine
W 44-6 Riordan
W 26-0 Mitty


Riordan Frosh 2015
L 66-0 Concord
L 78-0 ClaytonValley
WCAL
L 46-6 Mitty
L 63-0 Serra
L 47-7 Bellarmine
L 48-0 SI
L 37-0 Valley Christian
L 44-6 Sacred Heart Cathedral
L 39-14 St. Francis

 

[RiordanGael]

I never heard a word like that. All I was told was the Irish are in the WCAL to stay, straight from Gary Cannon himself. So Riordan can leave and join the AAA if they want.

I am sorry that you missed that briefing...

I actually confirmed this information last week with one of the AD's within the WCAL at that time.

So this means we are stuck with SHC, there is no aspect of reprieve to have them go "quietly into the night as they have done before".

History tends to repeat its self when people forget their roots. It seems that SHC has roots of bailing out to regroup or redevelop as they call it. "Say it ain't so, will not revise the truth"

As far as I am concerned at this time...SHC is a guaranteed win to get the Crusader's to the >.500 win season each year & CCS run to represent this great league of the WCAL.

So as you go with "Hope & Prayer", the Crusaders will rely on the skill and the will of the players and coaches.

Again...We Are One & We R Riordan

 

[rabbit5]

Then explain freshman teams that are already good. How can you see a team give up 429 points on the year and see anything positive? You'd be the biggest boaster if Riordan went 8-1 and you know it. Why brush it off just because SHC had two good years in a row with another good set of players on the way?

freshman records do not matter and they do not translate, apples and oranges as far as I see it. SH freshman had a great record this year, but that does not guarantee success, in reality it gives you hope that better is ahead, but only if in my book there is coaching waiting for them from above. Despite what you think, the freshman football player at Riordan has great coaching ahead, my gut tells me that translates very well. Momentum is on ourside.

I keep quiet on these boards generally, I only speak out to set the record straight, otherwise I read and learn, take it from me, there is quality in the freshman ranks at Riordan, with a boatload of incoming freshman to build with, so sit back and watch to see who has the better program moving forward.

I am bias towards Riordan, I went there, I watched recently as we got our butts kicked, but I see a turnaround and to your chagrin it is here.

 

[Irish_Cheers]

So this means we are stuck with SHC, there is no aspect of reprieve to have them go "quietly into the night as they have done before".

I'll save some crow for you too.

If you can't stand playing teams with green & white uniforms, quit the league and join the AAA or better yet go 8-man.

 

[Mr. Direct]

There are some question marks with each of the SF WCAL teams. Since SHC's return to the league in 2008 these are the league records against non-SF WCAL schools (Serra, St. Francis, Mitty, Bellarmine, Valley Christian):

SI: 4-35-1 (Coach Regalia is 3-21-1)
Riordan: 3-36-1 (Coach Fordon is 2-3)
SHC: 2-38 (Coach Peralta is 0-15)

My thoughts are that Riordan as a program is on the upswing. That doesn't mean they will have a better record than this years team but hopefully they will be consistently competitive after the changes they have made this year. SI seems to have a sufficient talent to compete in league at a high level every 5 years or so. The 2007 and 2012 teams were highly talented. Maybe 2017 is their year to be good again??? SHC will have to overtake those two to remove themselves from the cellar. Peralta's offense is the main culprit for their troubles. Since his return to SH they have scored 212 points in 3 WCAL seasons. Riordan scored 250 points in this WCAL season alone. Hopefully he steps down and gives the school a chance to compete regularly again.

 

[Irish_Cheers]

There are some question marks with each of the SF WCAL teams. Since SHC's return to the league in 2008 these are the league records against non-SF WCAL schools (Serra, St. Francis, Mitty, Bellarmine, Valley Christian):

SI: 4-35-1 (Coach Regalia is 3-21-1)
Riordan: 3-36-1 (Coach Fordon is 2-3)
SHC: 2-38 (Coach Peralta is 0-15)

My thoughts are that Riordan as a program is on the upswing. That doesn't mean they will have a better record than this years team but hopefully they will be consistently competitive after the changes they have made this year. SI seems to have a sufficient talent to compete in league at a high level every 5 years or so. The 2007 and 2012 teams were highly talented. Maybe 2017 is their year to be good again??? SHC will have to overtake those two to remove themselves from the cellar. Peralta's offense is the main culprit for their troubles. Since his return to SH they have scored 212 points in 3 WCAL seasons. Riordan scored 250 points in this WCAL season alone. Hopefully he steps down and gives the school a chance to compete regularly again.

Sorry Miss-Direct. Ken Peralta is mainly responsible for the talent that has come in during the past two years, so nobody is "stepping down". I hope we get a good quarterback and receivers in there soon. I think they passed more during the Mitty game than they did at any other time this season. I'll take 89-yard and 69-yard strikes any day. It's the Irish that are on the upswing. The St. Francis game was winnable and so was the SI game. The doormat has Fool-bo's name on it as the rabbits and kitties battle for last place.

 

[OneDNA]

It doesnt take much to upswing from winless lol

 

[RiordanGael]

Mr. Direct,

First of all, I truly appreciate your post. They are very fair balanced and also very accurate in reference to history and predictions.

I agree with you that the new regime at Riordan looks very promising. I also feel their off season program is very progressive thus development is there to bring out the best in these young men.

If you get to any of the Div III matches, please introduce yourself. People say you can here me, before you can see me.

Have a great Holiday either way

J2

 

[OneDNA]

Kumbaya, Kumbaya, oooooh Kumbaya

 

[Irish_Cheers]

It doesnt take much to upswing from winless

More words for you to eat crow by.

 

[RiordanGael]

More words for you to eat by.

It seems you got too much "wasabi" in your soy dip this season.

Red face, indigestion and painful "GAS" from eating said crow. This has been stable on SHC's dinner plate all year.

"Close the tab and revamp how you guys select your dinning choices"...

OMG....this is too easy (lol)