SI pounds SHC in win at Kezar
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14-13 sounds like a great rivalry game. Would not call it a pounding.
Of course not! It is fool boy being his usual troll self ! Heart breaking loss for the Irish. Outplayed SI most of the night. A missed tackle did them in. Also bad snap on field goal attempt and missed extra point did not help.
Very proud of the boys including Sophmore Andy Ruiz who started his first varsity game after being out 4 weeks with injury. Murphy and Salazar shut down SI's running game. Shepard Williams had a monster game. This won really hurt!
Very proud of the boys including Sophmore Andy Ruiz who started his first varsity game after being out 4 weeks with injury. Murphy and Salazar shut down SI's running game. Shepard Williams had a monster game. This won really hurt!
Not surprisingly, as a SI fan, my take was a little bit different.
JWS was the best player on the field and earned his rep. The SHC O-line was bigger than the SI D-Line and, at times, was able to establish a running game. The first half was played about evenly with defense dominating. SHC was leading at half 7-0. SHC did miss a field goal - but it was blocked and returned to mid-field by the Cats.
SHC ran the ball well in the 3rd Quarter, but was unable to score. Despite being undersized, the SI defense was tough and tenacious. When the Irish's starting left-CB came out of the game, SI's backup QB threw a TD over the backup to tie the game on the last play of the third quarter.
JWS and the SHC O-Line dominated the early 4th quarter - capped off by a fantastic run for a TD. SHC missed the extra point due to SI pressure - not a bad snap. The kicker looked like he hesitated - perhaps due to the earlier blocked FG.
SI came right back with a long pass play (again by the backup QB) including some great downfield blocking (I didn't see a missed tackle) and, with the PAT, took the lead.
A poor kickoff by SI and a great return by JWS gave the ball to the Irish at mid-field with over 2 minutes left. If I was calling plays, I would have called JWS-left and JWS-right to win the game. The Irish faked to JWS and went deep down the middle, but the ball was underthrown to a wide open receiver and the SI CB made a spectacular INT to seal the game.
Overall, it was a highly entertaining second half - with both team's playmakers making big plays. I don't think one team outplayed the other; like it often does in HS Football, it came down to turnovers and execution on special teams.
JWS was the best player on the field and earned his rep. The SHC O-line was bigger than the SI D-Line and, at times, was able to establish a running game. The first half was played about evenly with defense dominating. SHC was leading at half 7-0. SHC did miss a field goal - but it was blocked and returned to mid-field by the Cats.
SHC ran the ball well in the 3rd Quarter, but was unable to score. Despite being undersized, the SI defense was tough and tenacious. When the Irish's starting left-CB came out of the game, SI's backup QB threw a TD over the backup to tie the game on the last play of the third quarter.
JWS and the SHC O-Line dominated the early 4th quarter - capped off by a fantastic run for a TD. SHC missed the extra point due to SI pressure - not a bad snap. The kicker looked like he hesitated - perhaps due to the earlier blocked FG.
SI came right back with a long pass play (again by the backup QB) including some great downfield blocking (I didn't see a missed tackle) and, with the PAT, took the lead.
A poor kickoff by SI and a great return by JWS gave the ball to the Irish at mid-field with over 2 minutes left. If I was calling plays, I would have called JWS-left and JWS-right to win the game. The Irish faked to JWS and went deep down the middle, but the ball was underthrown to a wide open receiver and the SI CB made a spectacular INT to seal the game.
Overall, it was a highly entertaining second half - with both team's playmakers making big plays. I don't think one team outplayed the other; like it often does in HS Football, it came down to turnovers and execution on special teams.
FUBO don't be an idiot cuz you hate SH, 14-13 not quite in definition of pounding. Sounds like tough loss, no moral wins in SH/SI rivalry
It looked like an ankle injury and also fatigue from playing both ways. He played some defense in the fourth quarter, but was limping around after the game. He is one tough kid.
Didn't know he was a 2-way player. Other than Serra, I thought the 'Cats had the most challenging non-league schedule. I see them being in most games...you never know what can happen in the wild and wacky WCAL.
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First, I said outplayed them most of the night. You looked through red and blue glasses. I looked through green color classes.
I also have the luxury to watch the entire game through team film since my son is on SHC team. This is what it shows
I did not say the extra point was due to a bad snap. I said the field goal. But looking a the film, the snap wasn't bad ( a little low) but holder mishandled it and was just getting it back on tee when kicked. It was not blocked, but kicked into the behind of an SHC blocker.
As to extra point, the film shows absolutely no pressure on missed extra point. There is no SI Player within ten yards of the kicker. (To give the kicker some slack, he injured his shoulder on a running play in the first half so he was not 100 percent).
Up to the big pass play, stats show Irish clearly outplaying them. The missed tackle was right when he caught the ball, it shows on the film.
First half stats ( I guess this is what the Jesuits taught as your equal - they didn't teach me this at USF)
Total net yards SHC 167 SI 14
First Downs SHC 4 SI 1
Scoring chance SHC 2 SI 0
Score SHC 7 SI 0
SH inside SI 30 4 times, SI farthest advance their own 45.
Prior to the big pass for SI the total yards was SHC 240 SI 63. SO I believe my green glasses were a little more accurate than yours. But at the end of the day, its all about who has the most points on the board and SI did. They hung in there and congrats for them on the win.
I remember them teaching us graciousness, but since you chose to attack first, I will help you remember a few Stats you overlooked.
JWS fumbled in the first half stalling a promising drive. The SHC punter had a ball snapped over his head, also in the first half, giving SI a scoring OPPORTUNITY on the SHC 6 yard line which the SHC defense stopped.
I stand by my comment that special teams execution and turnovers made the difference.
I agree the stats were not equal, nor were the mistakes. Whether the mistakes were a result of tenacious play by the Cats or the (bad) luck of the Irish, depends on the color of your glasses.
The score reflected the game. It was a defensive struggle with the winner making fewer (or forcing more) turnovers and bad plays.
JWS fumbled in the first half stalling a promising drive. The SHC punter had a ball snapped over his head, also in the first half, giving SI a scoring OPPORTUNITY on the SHC 6 yard line which the SHC defense stopped.
I stand by my comment that special teams execution and turnovers made the difference.
I agree the stats were not equal, nor were the mistakes. Whether the mistakes were a result of tenacious play by the Cats or the (bad) luck of the Irish, depends on the color of your glasses.
The score reflected the game. It was a defensive struggle with the winner making fewer (or forcing more) turnovers and bad plays.
Actually, the fumble was an exchange issue between the qb and Shepard Wiilliams.
The bad punt snap was in the THIRD QUARTER. And the Irish snuffed it despite SI having a first and goal from the 5 after a penalty.
The interception was an under thrown which I will give credit to the SI player for getting backand and making a nice interception.
Yes, I agree that the turnovers and special teams were a difference only in that ithey kept SI in the game. If the Irish had executed right on any of the fumble, interception, field goal or extra point, there is a good chance they win the game. Despite all of these mistakes, they had a 13 7 lead, and SI with a 3 and 10. A missed tackle and a great run and block from the SI player won the game.
The bad punt snap was in the THIRD QUARTER. And the Irish snuffed it despite SI having a first and goal from the 5 after a penalty.
The interception was an under thrown which I will give credit to the SI player for getting backand and making a nice interception.
Yes, I agree that the turnovers and special teams were a difference only in that ithey kept SI in the game. If the Irish had executed right on any of the fumble, interception, field goal or extra point, there is a good chance they win the game. Despite all of these mistakes, they had a 13 7 lead, and SI with a 3 and 10. A missed tackle and a great run and block from the SI player won the game.
shC fans are the most prolific, find one in a haystack excuse makers in the history of prep sports. Excuse for everything. Injuries , slipping , mishandling blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. There are reasons you keep losing that you won't find in BS excuses.
Bottom line SHC lost, but they had some good moments and bad. Jamar Shepard was the star for SHC, SI could not stop him, he was not going to be denied anything and he dished out a lot of punishment to SI defenders. I can only respect the game that both teams played to honor the Bruce Mahoney. It wasn't a blow out, it was all effort, and both teams let it all hang. SHC has some talent coming and I hope it allows them to have a more dynamic offense other than handing off the ball to running backs. Ruiz is a young kid and asking him to step up early to varsity to fill the gap are some big shoes to fill. Fubo, just shut up, no one wants to hear your jealousy around here, stay home with those purple tights lying in your fetal position...
If as you say SI could not stop him and he was not going to be denied anything, a position I agree with, why didn't he get the ball four times when shC had the ball 1st/ goal inside the ten? And they are not going to have better talent than JWS and the Murphy kid.
I say the talent on the 2018 and 2019 class is pretty good at SHC for football. These are some of the kids Peralta has been trying to bring in but it is a process and it won't all happen overnight. The freshman and soph classes have some good potential evidenced by their recent records. The 2018 freshman class beat SI, St. Francis, VC, Riordan, etc soundly and 2019 class beat SI today. Murphy, Shepard, are some of the best of the class of 2016. QB Ruiz was injured for 4 weeks, and asking a soph kid that was forced up from the Junior Varsity is a challenge no school probably would like. Even though the pass down the field was not successful, I don't question taking the chance or the call, it was set up as best possible for Ruiz to complete but he under threw it slightly. Im sure he was nervous being that it was the big Bruce Mahoney game. One thing, I will admit the SH offense does not pass very often and it is not exciting to watch. However, JWS was very exciting to watch and he bruised up more than one SI player running forward. I can only hope that SHC does "throw" more in the future. I knew this game was not going to be a blow out, both teams competed and no, I didn't like the outcome, the kids' played hard, which is all we can ask and respect.
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Riordan frosh have been out scored 200+to 6. The turn-around in two years will be Nobel Peace Prize worthy.
They have just as much chance winning as SHC has of becoming a spread offense.
Take away allegences this sounded like a quality HS game.
They have just as much chance winning as SHC has of becoming a spread offense.
Take away allegences this sounded like a quality HS game.
When SH missed the PAT, I just had this impending feeling of doom. There was a shroud of hope when SH got them on that 3rd and long. Then when SI went to that spread formation and if you watch the video, one of the SH coaches on the bottom of the screen was jumping up and down with his arm extended/finger pointing up, I knew they were going to throw to the RB up top because no one was going to cover him and it was going to be for a TD. Leads to question, if you're the coach/coaches and you see that matchup and you know the worst is about to happen, why not run to the side referee and call timeout????
What a way to lose! Nonetheless very proud of the Irish effort. Nice for a change to see this game and SI not dominate the line which translates to easy win. Hoping Hollins goes for 40 in during the basketball game.
What a way to lose! Nonetheless very proud of the Irish effort. Nice for a change to see this game and SI not dominate the line which translates to easy win. Hoping Hollins goes for 40 in during the basketball game.
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The throw was to the wide out on a 12 yd curl route. He was covered but the db missed the tackle. They actually had everyone well covered on the play. The other mistake was by the safety who had the angle on him but tried to cut back inside the blocker instead of running straight through and took himself out of the play.
Yes. What a way to lose! And yes, very proud of the effort. You could clearly see what the Irish were missing without Murphy, Salazar and the rest of the kids who came back from injury.
The throw was to the wide out on a 12 yd curl route. He was covered but the db missed the tackle. They actually had everyone well covered on the play. The other mistake was by the safety who had the angle on him but tried to cut back inside the blocker instead of running straight through and took himself out of the play.
Yes. What a way to lose! And yes, very proud of the effort. You could clearly see what the Irish were missing without Murphy, Salazar and the rest of the kids who came back from injury.
This game would have the approval of Bill Bruce and Jerry Mahoney. Blood, sweat and tears for 48 minutes. I'd have to say the gameball must go to the backup QB for SI. I won't predict that Katz wouldn't have made those same throws/plays, but Katz virtually did nothing offensively. It was only until the backup came in for injury that SI opened up the offense with through the passing game which SH had a tough time stopping.
Im not sure why Peralta flip flopped punters. Wasnt James Williams the punter at first? Then he switched to Ronan Murphy who muffed the snap on that one punt that led to SI's first TD. I think Williams just came back from injury and got nicked on a few of those fly sweeps in the 1st half. That looked like it worked, I dont know why Peralta stopped using that play.
Actually, SI did not score after the muffed punt, despite having a first and goal from the 5. Defense held and ball turned over on downs. The first touchdown was a series later on SI's only drive of the game (55 yards) on a 19 yd pass. The qb actually made an unbelievable throw and put it in the only spot where it could not be defended since there we two SH defenders there.
They did try the sweep on several plays to Jamal Laveller and SI snuffed it out both times. That is probably why they did not try it anymore.
I had the same impression. (Not surprised at the SI luck). I think we would have pulled out the win had the team been healthy all season.
The frosh were very impressive. They ran SI's kids outta town, 33-14 and beat formerly unbeaten St. Francis and their 60-player roster 28-21 and taking a knee on the S.F. 5 yard line at the end of the game.
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If they don't leave the league first or drop football altogether, they'll be 0-10 and lose by an average of 55 points each, with a running clock by the third quarter. That's if more players don't keep quitting the team.
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