SJS D-3 prediction....

[mistisoman]

So here's my prediction on how this Friday's semis will go down
Oakdale-20
Inderkum-28
After watching both squads, Oakdale will struggle against a bigger, faster Inderkum team that still has the bitter taste of losing that title game last year to this same Oakdale squad....
Placer-23
Central Catholic-35
Key here is Placer's run game, as they have to grind this one out and move the chains in order keep that CC offensive attack to limited possessions..CC is just to difficult to defend because of their ability to pass the ball with high efficiency when teams try to stack the box trying to stop their run game...

 

[AthleticTrth209]

I think you are close. Hard to go against Oakdale at home at the Corral. Also if any coach is going to have their team ready it will be Merzon. Merzon is the best coach in the VOL. I was surprised Manteca went up and hung with Inderkum for awhile anyway. Oakdale is a much better team than Manteca. Inderkum's speed is the wildcard though. Oakdale hasn't faced a team with Inderkum's total team speed. I see it as a pick'em, but since Oakdale is home...Oakdale gets the nod by 5...35-30.
As for Central Catholic/Placer....Central had a laugher against Christian Bros and had most of their starters out at halftime. Placer had to work to stave off a Patterson comeback. Oakdale runs the wing T better than Placer, and although Capra is a load; Central already played against a better OL/DL in St. Mary's Popo Aumavae. If Capra is going to Oregon, Aumavae will have SEC offers before he graduates. No comparison IMHO. Also, VOL is hands down a better league top to bottom than both the WAC (Patterson) and the PVL. Central Catholic beat a St. Mary's team that just beat Napa Friday night. Some will say that was because St. Mary's was without their QB Dunniway; but it should be noted that Central Catholic sparingly used a very limited (ankle) Justin Rice for only a half (he sat the entire 2nd half). St. Mary's was up 22-17 at the half. Had St. Mary's had Dunniway and Central a healthy Rice, I don't think the outcome would have been any different. Placer has played no one even remotely close to the talent of St. Mary's or Oakdale. All that said, it should be a very entertaining contest. Central Catholic by 21, 42-21.

 

[ThunderRam]

I'd love to see Indy break through. They continue to be one of the best programs in the area (115-22 all-time), but don't get the respect they deserve because they've fallen short in the Section finals several times. But make no mistake, they are a top flight program with a top flight Head Coach and staff. Their consistency the past 11 seasons, even as a brand new program, is impressive. They've never finished a season worse than 7-3 -- which was their inaugural season.

They've faced Oakdale twice before in the postseason and have split. This promises to be a great game. The Mustangs are nearly impossible to beat at the Corral during the playoffs. I believe Placer was the last team to do so back in 2008. This will be a tough task for the Tigers.

 

[championcif75]

I'd love to see Indy break through. They continue to be one of the best programs in the area (115-22 all-time), but don't get the respect they deserve because they've fallen short in the Section finals several times. But make no mistake, they are a top flight program with a top flight Head Coach and staff. Their consistency the past 11 seasons, even as a brand new program, is impressive. They've never finished a season worse than 7-3 -- which was their inaugural season.

They've faced Oakdale twice before in the postseason and have split. This promises to be a great game. The Mustangs are nearly impossible to beat at the Corral during the playoffs. I believe Placer was the last team to do so back in 2008. This will be a tough task for the Tigers.

Well it's the semi's and I didn't expect to have Placer no where favored vs this very good CC team but hey we're here,lol.TR Placer also beat CC at CC in 2012 49-30 and CC won at Placer in 2013 48-30 I believe,could be wrong on scores.Not that it means anything now these are different teams just referencing since you mentioned Placer beat Oakdale at the Corral back in 08....which Placer did.CC is heavily favored and rightfully so,placer will give them all they got that's for sure.TR and thx for the play by play at Grant other night,I was there and my heart hurt for the Pacer's,I felt being up 23-3 at one pts GB the pacers should not have lost that game.I don't want to go into it,the manner in which and why they lost........thanks again.....Go Placer

 

[championcif75]

Well it's the semi's and I didn't expect to have Placer no where favored vs this very good CC team but hey we're here,lol.TR Placer also beat CC at CC in 2012 49-30 and CC won at Placer in 2013 48-30 I believe,could be wrong on scores.Not that it means anything now these are different teams just referencing since you mentioned Placer beat Oakdale at the Corral back in 08....which Placer did.CC is heavily favored and rightfully so,placer will give them all they got that's for sure.TR and thx for the play by play at Grant other night,I was there and my heart hurt for the Pacer's,I felt being up 23-3 at one pts GB the pacers should not have lost that game.I don't want to go into it,the manner in which and why they lost........thanks again.....Go Placer

21-3 ....sorry.

 

[playsomeball]

I only wish I could be at both of these games. I will be at the Oakdale/ Inderkum game. Oakdale has a much better offense this season vs. last, and they were still able to come back after the half from a 20-0 point deficit to beat Inderkum last season. The only problem I see regarding Oakdale is their defense. Oakdales offense is strong, one of the best they have had since 2012. The big problem Oakdale has is defense, and defense wins games. They need to make some adjustments on defense or Inderkum could come out with the win. On the other hand, Oakdale is playing at the Corral and they have only lost 6 league games at home since 2004. I am not quite sure what the record is at home during playoffs, but I do know that it is very very tough for teams to come to the Corral and win. So this is an advantage for Oakdale. The Corral can be quite intimidating for Oakdales opponents. If Oakdale tightens up their defense, I believe they win at home.​

 

[ThunderRam]

I am not quite sure what the record is at home during playoffs, but I do know that it is very very tough for teams to come to the Corral and win.

By my records, they are 24-2 at the Corral since 1994. Prior to 1994, they had a playoff drought dating back to 1985.

The 2 losses were to Placer in 2008 (27-14) and Center in 1994 (27-13). Both 1st round losses.

 

[ST1984]

This 12-0 Placer team is one of the best if not the best team they have had in many years(my opinion). A couple years back they had 10-0 squad that you could argue was just as talented but was not as disiplined and lost early in the playoffs.
The offense is really clicking and the D is much better than years past. That being said, Central Catholic is playing inspired football and is peaking right now as well (12-0). Thwir schedule has been a real test and they have come out undefeated.
Hopefully these kids stay healthy and leave it all out there. I am not sure how this game will go but have a feeling CC is going to get more than they are expecting from this 1360 enrollment. These Placer kids are hungry and aren't intimidated.
I'm sure looking forward to this week, family, turkey, and Friday night football! Oh yes, my prediction.. 42-41 Placer.

 

[AthleticTrth209]

Central Catholic, at 370 students, isn't overlooking anyone and is expecting quite a battle from the 1360 Hillmen. Central Catholic doesn't overlook/feel overconfident in any games, but they especially don't when the school they are playing is roughly 4x larger. But if you play the "he played/they played game", at least on paper, it shouldn't be a contest. The 2 teams that got "close" to Placer were VDL and Bear River. I know VDL made a late run to close the score, but Placer and Benicia both beat VDL by less than a TD. Oakdale just destroyed Benicia last Friday (game was over by half), and Central beat Oakdale. At 21-14, the Placer/VDL game was not over at half. As for Bear River, you can't tell me the Hillmen weren't up for that game and it was still relatively close as they needed 13 in the final qtr to push ahead and win. Placer was losing 14-13 in the 3rd. IMHO Bear River is comparable to teams in the TVL and Motherlode league. CalPreps.com has Sonora beating Bear River by 7 this Saturday. Sonora is, and has been for a couple of weeks, without arguably their best defensive player LB Bradley Canepa (also was their starting FB). Oakdale also destroyed Sonora early in the season.
What does all of this mean?....ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, because that is why they play the games. But this is playoff football which Central Catholic has been all too familiar with the last 4 years; and they are not going to overlook, or be lulled into complacency, by the "lil straw chewers" (championcif75 term, not mine) from the "1360 enrollment" Placer Hillmen.

 

[ST1984]

Central Catholic, at 370 students, isn't overlooking anyone and is expecting quite a battle from the 1360 Hillmen. Central Catholic doesn't overlook/feel overconfident in any games, but they especially don't when the school they are playing is roughly 4x larger. But if you play the "he played/they played game", at least on paper, it shouldn't be a contest. The 2 teams that got "close" to Placer were VDL and Bear River. I know VDL made a late run to close the score, but Placer and Benicia both beat VDL by less than a TD. Oakdale just destroyed Benicia last Friday (game was over by half), and Central beat Oakdale. At 21-14, the Placer/VDL game was not over at half. As for Bear River, you can't tell me the Hillmen weren't up for that game and it was still relatively close as they needed 13 in the final qtr to push ahead and win. Placer was losing 14-13 in the 3rd. IMHO Bear River is comparable to teams in the TVL and Motherlode league. CalPreps.com has Sonora beating Bear River by 7 this Saturday. Sonora is, and has been for a couple of weeks, without arguably their best defensive player LB Bradley Canepa (also was their starting FB). Oakdale also destroyed Sonora early in the season.
What does all of this mean?....ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, because that is why they play the games. But this is playoff football which Central Catholic has been all too familiar with the last 4 years; and they are not going to overlook, or be lulled into complacency, by the "lil straw chewers" (championcif75 term, not mine) from the "1360 enrollment" Placer Hillmen.

AT209. Believe me, in no way do I believe the Hillmen are favored in this match up. Luckily, we get this chance to play the game. btw...I roll my eyes when privates talk about small enrollments and imply how far they are overachieving with what little they have. I do believe CC at this point is where they need to be(D3). They have a great team and wish nothing but the best for the kids. Can't wait to bring my turkey sandwich to Modesto and enjoy some football.

 

[AthleticTrth209]

ST1984, I too roll my eyes when privates bring up "small enrollments" and about as much as when publics bring up the "recruiting" tag. It is what it is...Only reason I brought up Central's enrollment is because you brought up Placer's. Enrollment is a non-issue in my book. I also agree with you that Central belongs in the D3 bracket/level. Problem (I guess you can call it a problem) is that if Central wins the D3 bracket, they will automatically be bumped to D2 next year for playoffs due to continued success rule. This year they could "compete" in the D2 bracket, but this will be the last of the "dominant" Central teams for a while. They will be good, but not the caliber of this year or the last 3 years. They have no business being in the D2 level. Leftovers are always best while watching football! Happy Thanksgiving!

 

[smashmouthrick]

DIII semi's are going to be great, wish I could be at both games but will be huddled up at the Golden Eagles nest.

Appears to me Placer is going to have their hands full stopping the CC run game. CC's Rice @6'2" 210lbs is a load with 1685 total yards and averaging 153yds/game with a 11.5yd/carry average. Placer has their tandem of RB's with Scott @6'0" 185lbs with 1487 total yards and averaging 123yds/game with a 13.6yrd/carry average and Halbert @5'9" 170lbs with 1146 total yards and averaging 95yds/game with a 7.4yrd/carry average. Both teams run more than pass but both can pass. Love those teams that can run as the smashmouth gound & pound is my flavor of football.

CC is in a tougher league VOL average rating @18.3 vs PVL @9.1. Going to be a good battle but going with our local Hillman for the upset.

Note: This message is approved by Lil Straw Chewers everywhere ;-)

While Indy is the local team for me I have a lot of respect Oakdale having seen them play Del Oro twice for section championship games. Agree with previous poster in that Merzon is a great coach. As per ThunderRam's stats, opponent playoff wins at the Corral are rare. Going with the Mustangs on this one.

Good luck teams!

 

[playsomeball]

Maxpreps has both CC and Oakdale winning by 2 TD's.I have not looked at Placer's stats, but I have looked at Inderkum's and, while I am a Oakdale fan, I just don't see Oakdale winning by 2 Td's. I hope I am wrong and Maxpreps projection is accurate. Like I said in an earlier post, Oakdale's "D" has to step up for this game if they want to play for a Championship. Oakdale gave up 33 pts to Elderado, this should not have happened against a #15 seed. They seemed to have stepped up their D against Benicia last week. If their D plays against Inderkum the way they did last week, I think Oakdale wins. Goodluck to both Placer and CC, although, I will speak for most of the Mustang fans and say, that Oakdale wants the re-match with CC. Being down 28-10 at the half and coming back within 5 pts and lose to a team that just came into the VOL the year before. Yes, it was a tough one for the Mustang faithful to swallow.

 

[ThunderRam]

Problem (I guess you can call it a problem) is that if Central wins the D3 bracket, they will automatically be bumped to D2 next year for playoffs due to continued success rule.

I don't believe this is correct.

If I understand the new rule correctly, CC was bumped up to D3 after winning 3 consecutive section titles in D4. If they win D3 this season, they'd have to win the next 2 in order to get moved up again.

 

[jricedds]

As a Central Catholic parent, I believe AT209 is correct. The SJS will view it as they didn't "bump" Central enough if they win the D3 section this year after the bump from D4. They only have to win 1 section title to be bumped up to next division after a 3 consecutive section title bump. To take it a step further; if Central wins D3 this year they would be bumped to D2 for next year and if by chance they somehow won D2 next year, they would then be bumped to D1 the following year. Now on the other hand; if Central does not win the D3 section title this year, they would then "reset" and have to win 3 consecutive D3 titles to be bumped to D2.

 

[CaliTrojan4Life]

As a Central Catholic parent, I believe AT209 is correct. The SJS will view it as they didn't "bump" Central enough if they win the D3 section this year after the bump from D4. They only have to win 1 section title to be bumped up to next division after a 3 consecutive section title bump. To take it a step further; if Central wins D3 this year they would be bumped to D2 for next year and if by chance they somehow won D2 next year, they would then be bumped to D1 the following year. Now on the other hand; if Central does not win the D3 section title this year, they would then "reset" and have to win 3 consecutive D3 titles to be bumped to D2.

Screw that, they need to be bumped to D2 regardless. They have built a powerhouse and it's time for them to be challenged in the playoffs. And it's also time for them to step their preseason scheduling up as well. Keep St. Marys but no more cup cakes. It's time for them to add a WCAL and a SFL team to their preseason schedule. If they get their butts kicked then we can entertain going back down to D3.

 

[championcif75]

Cmon my lil straw chewing Hillmen..........you can do this baby!!!It's a huge mountain for ya.....BUT.....IT CAN BE DONE.............GO PLACER

 

[championcif75]

Screw that, they need to be bumped to D2 regardless. They have built a powerhouse and it's time for them to be challenged in the playoffs. And it's also time for them to step their preseason scheduling up as well. Keep St. Marys but no more cup cakes. It's time for them to add a WCAL and a SFL team to their preseason schedule. If they get their butts kicked then we can entertain going back down to D3.

PG who loves ya buddy? Ahhhh haha .......Cmon Placer!!

 

[championcif75]

Smash mouth and ST 1984,great opportunity for us to meet down in Modesto with our leftover turkey sandwiches lmao,I'll be wearing an all green placer sweatshirt that reads placer on front but since it's gonna be a lil chilly I'll probably put on the coat so then look for an all green bob cap with P L A C E R in block letters on the front,can't miss me 6'4" tall and stunningly handsome with Sean Connery grey......top rows or at concession stand at halftime.Plenty people from Sutter and Nevada Union also making the trek,placer travels well anyway....lots of local supporters will be heading dn S99 tonight.Stop by and say hello to the Champ(championcif75) would enjoy putting a face to the name and really talk fball for a few minutes.Drive safe,see you there and Go Placer baby........shock the world lol.

 

[championcif75]

Smash mouth and ST 1984,great opportunity for us to meet down in Modesto with our leftover turkey sandwiches lmao,I'll be wearing an all green placer sweatshirt that reads placer on front but since it's gonna be a lil chilly I'll probably put on the coat so then look for an all green bob cap with P L A C E R in block letters on the front,can't miss me 6'4" tall and stunningly handsome with Sean Connery grey......top rows or at concession stand at halftime.Plenty people from Sutter and Nevada Union also making the trek,placer travels well anyway....lots of local supporters will be heading dn S99 tonight.Stop by and say hello to the Champ(championcif75) would enjoy putting a face to the name and really talk fball for a few minutes.Drive safe,see you there and Go Placer baby........shock the world lol.

That's ball cap by God,bob cap ahhhhh haha,lol.

 

[RodneyPete45]

Let's go Placer!

 

[championcif75]

Let's go Placer!

Weeeeeee......Paaaaacers,I mean Plaaaaacer......am I right(wink) RPete?

 

[championcif75]

Let's go Placer!

RP great pic by the way

 

[ST1984]

Smash mouth and ST 1984,great opportunity for us to meet down in Modesto with our leftover turkey sandwiches lmao,I'll be wearing an all green placer sweatshirt that reads placer on front but since it's gonna be a lil chilly I'll probably put on the coat so then look for an all green bob cap with P L A C E R in block letters on the front,can't miss me 6'4" tall and stunningly handsome with Sean Connery grey......top rows or at concession stand at halftime.Plenty people from Sutter and Nevada Union also making the trek,placer travels well anyway....lots of local supporters will be heading dn S99 tonight.Stop by and say hello to the Champ(championcif75) would enjoy putting a face to the name and really talk fball for a few minutes.Drive safe,see you there and Go Placer baby........shock the world lol.

That would be great. I'm also 6'4" camouflage placer (P) hat. Warm camo jacket not for style but it's going to be coold. I'll look for you

 

[championcif75]

That would be great. I'm also 6'4" camouflage placer (P) hat. Warm camo jacket not for style but it's going to be coold. I'll look for you

Excellent

 

[smashmouthrick]

Smash mouth and ST 1984,great opportunity for us to meet down in Modesto with our leftover turkey sandwiches lmao,I'll be wearing an all green placer sweatshirt that reads placer on front but since it's gonna be a lil chilly I'll probably put on the coat so then look for an all green bob cap with P L A C E R in block letters on the front,can't miss me 6'4" tall and stunningly handsome with Sean Connery grey......top rows or at concession stand at halftime.Plenty people from Sutter and Nevada Union also making the trek,placer travels well anyway....lots of local supporters will be heading dn S99 tonight.Stop by and say hello to the Champ(championcif75) would enjoy putting a face to the name and really talk fball for a few minutes.Drive safe,see you there and Go Placer baby........shock the world lol.

Champ, I wish they would schedule the playoff games on Saturday so we could all take in more games. I would so be at the Hillman game if it was on Saturday but will be at Del Oro tonight so won't make the trip to Modesto. I'm sure Montoya has the team ready to rip. Wishing the Hillman the best tonight!

 

[AthleticTrth209]

Screw that, they need to be bumped to D2 regardless. They have built a powerhouse and it's time for them to be challenged in the playoffs. And it's also time for them to step their preseason scheduling up as well. Keep St. Marys but no more cup cakes. It's time for them to add a WCAL and a SFL team to their preseason schedule. If they get their butts kicked then we can entertain going back down to D3.

PG your "bumped to D2 regardless" is flawed for many reasons. Typical knee jerk reaction to Central Catholic's football success of the last 4 years without looking at the big picture. 1st off: at 470 students their facilities/financial backing are D6-7 and not even comparable to D2 schools. Visiting teams usually "huddle" under the scoreboard at halftime because of the lack of locker room space. Central is not like your DLS, St. Francis, Bellarmine, or even St. Mary's up the road with typical private school monies; they are your "red-headed stepchild" of the Catholic Diocese. Putting Central Catholic in that category would be like calling Fresno St. the "Stanford of the Valley". If it weren't for the Gallo's donations, their facilities/funding would fall behind most public junior highs. Ask Placer after the game tonight what they think of Central's facilities. WCAL and SFL teams would rightfully expect comparable facilities before making the trek to Modesto. You can't blame Central Catholic for the "suckage" of the local D1/D2 teams they schedule for their preseason games. 2nd: from a talent/depth standpoint, they can compete on any given Friday. But, if they have to play D2 talent week in and week out, they seriously lack the talent/depth to do so. Their roster usually has 30-34 varsity kids on it (they bring up 10 sophs for the playoffs). Of those 30-34, 15 probably don't see the field. I would guess 7-8 kids go both ways for Central. The VOL taxes their depth already, so why would you think they are D2 ready? Oakdale kicked the crap out of them last year, but I don't hear you clamoring for Oakdale to be bumped to D2. Everyone loves to pick on the small private from Modesto, but unless you: 1) win the lottery and would like to make a donation to the Catholic Church in care of Central Catholic Athletics to upgrade facilities/financial backing to that of their competition, and 2) increase their enrollment to say about 1000 so they can have the depth of the WCAL/SFL teams, the TRUTH is they are quite well fitted to the D3 level.

 

[championcif75]

Smash

Champ, I wish they would schedule the playoff games on Saturday so we could all take in more games. I would so be at the Hillman game if it was on Saturday but will be at Del Oro tonight so won't make the trip to Modesto. I'm sure Montoya has the team ready to rip. Wishing the Hillman the best tonight!

Smash thanks and I'm sure the opportunity will still be there regardless of tonight's outcome in Modesto,there is still much fball left within the SJS after tonite,don't get me wrong I'm really hoping the best for our hillmen(wink).Have fun in the basin tonite and we'll talk soon enough......enjoy.Go Placer

 

[CaliTrojan4Life]

PG your "bumped to D2 regardless" is flawed for many reasons. Typical knee jerk reaction to Central Catholic's football success of the last 4 years without looking at the big picture. 1st off: at 470 students their facilities/financial backing are D6-7 and not even comparable to D2 schools. Visiting teams usually "huddle" under the scoreboard at halftime because of the lack of locker room space. Central is not like your DLS, St. Francis, Bellarmine, or even St. Mary's up the road with typical private school monies; they are your "red-headed stepchild" of the Catholic Diocese. Putting Central Catholic in that category would be like calling Fresno St. the "Stanford of the Valley". If it weren't for the Gallo's donations, their facilities/funding would fall behind most public junior highs. Ask Placer after the game tonight what they think of Central's facilities. WCAL and SFL teams would rightfully expect comparable facilities before making the trek to Modesto. You can't blame Central Catholic for the "suckage" of the local D1/D2 teams they schedule for their preseason games. 2nd: from a talent/depth standpoint, they can compete on any given Friday. But, if they have to play D2 talent week in and week out, they seriously lack the talent/depth to do so. Their roster usually has 30-34 varsity kids on it (they bring up 10 sophs for the playoffs). Of those 30-34, 15 probably don't see the field. I would guess 7-8 kids go both ways for Central. The VOL taxes their depth already, so why would you think they are D2 ready? Oakdale kicked the crap out of them last year, but I don't hear you clamoring for Oakdale to be bumped to D2. Everyone loves to pick on the small private from Modesto, but unless you: 1) win the lottery and would like to make a donation to the Catholic Church in care of Central Catholic Athletics to upgrade facilities/financial backing to that of their competition, and 2) increase their enrollment to say about 1000 so they can have the depth of the WCAL/SFL teams, the TRUTH is they are quite well fitted to the D3 level.

Well AT209, as a fan of the game I believe they need to take that leap to the next level. They have dominated the level their on for far too long. Give someone else a chance the same way they made DLS give other teams a chance. If they're not competitive on the next level I have no problem with them moving back down a level. But I see it as being a part of good sportsmanship to allow other teams to have a chance for the state bowl game. And I see it as being selfish not to do so wouldn't you agree?

 

[RodneyPete45]

Well AT209, as a fan of the game I believe they need to take that leap to the next level. They have dominated the level their on for far too long. Give someone else a chance the same way they made DLS give other teams a chance. If they're not competitive on the next level I have no problem with them moving back down a level. But I see it as being a part of good sportsmanship to allow other teams to have a chance for the state bowl game. And I see it as being selfish not to do so wouldn't you agree?

Well said PG

 

[AthleticTrth209]

PG...totally agree they need to go to the next level which in this case is D3. If they win that 3 consecutive years (which wont happen), then bump them to D2. This year is a special year for Central Catholic. These kids have only lost like 3 games since they were freshmen. Central will not be this good next year. It is just that they are in tight spot in that their first string players are very good, but the talent drops off very quickly because they have no depth. Take out 2 players and they are nowhere near the team they are now. Next year they will battle for 2nd place in VOL and win 1 or 2 games in D3 playoffs. I too want to see them challenged, but not beat up week to week where by week 10 they are struggling to field a team that can compete at all. All I am saying is let the dust settle from moving them to D3 before a jump to D2. Btw I was incorrect on my enrollment figures: Central Catholic has an enrollment of 380 students. What is the average enrollment of WCAL and SFL teams?

 

[nascar624]

Well AT209, as a fan of the game I believe they need to take that leap to the next level. They have dominated the level their on for far too long. Give someone else a chance the same way they made DLS give other teams a chance. If they're not competitive on the next level I have no problem with them moving back down a level. But I see it as being a part of good sportsmanship to allow other teams to have a chance for the state bowl game. And I see it as being selfish not to do so wouldn't you agree?

How have they dominated the level they are on now for far too long? You do realize this is their first year in D3 and last years CC team which went 7-3 in the regular season would most likely not have won D3 last year. This year they still need to play the same team that nearly beat them in regular season, so even winning D3 this year is still not certain. I personally think it would be a mistake to force them into D2 simply because they have an unusual strong team this year, when they are not going to be the same team next year. D3 is where they are competitive and will occasionally win when they are extra talented.

I have been watching CC for about 20 years and they have never been a D2 or higher caliber team, although they have always during that time definitely been above the level they would naturally be at based on their enrollment.

As far as the SBG thing goes, as a fan of NorCal football, CC has been our strongest small school based on their enrollment and I would hate to see another NorCal team get pasted by a SoCal school because politics keeps our best school at home. Let's face it, we have not exactly had the best luck in the small school game when CC was not in it. Yes we had the one special MC team win when they had Isaiah Burse playing for them, but other that is it.

Bottom line is you are mistaken if you agree CC should be bumped to D2 should they win D3 this year the first time in it. Unfortunately it sounds like due to rules they will be placed their if they win next week

 

[playsomeball]

@nascar..This is CC'S 2nd year in D3. Oakdale beat them last year by 21

 

[AthleticTrth209]

@playsomeball This is CC's 2nd year in the D3 VOL league. 1st year in the D3 SJS playoffs.

 

[nascar624]

@nascar..This is CC'S 2nd year in D3. Oakdale beat them last year by 21

AT209 beat me to the punch, so I will add, they won their section 3 times in a row at D4 and have played in that division for many years. Yes they played in a D3 league, but not in the D3 section. Like I said in my post, if CC was in D3 playoffs, they would not have been playing in SBG cause they were not going to win that section last year. This simply adds to my argument that they are just fine in D3. This is where it is competitive for them and the fact they happen to be exceptionally strong this year means they may be punished and forced into a division that is out of their realm. There is no way they should be a D2 school, they just aren't at that level. They might be this year, but most years they arent.

 

[thespecialone]

AT209 beat me to the punch, so I will add, they won their section 3 times in a row at D4 and have played in that division for many years. Yes they played in a D3 league, but not in the D3 section. Like I said in my post, if CC was in D3 playoffs, they would not have been playing in SBG cause they were not going to win that section last year. This simply adds to my argument that they are just fine in D3. This is where it is competitive for them and the fact they happen to be exceptionally strong this year means they may be punished and forced into a division that is out of their realm. There is no way they should be a D2 school, they just aren't at that level. They might be this year, but most years they arent.

A coed school of 370 students in D2 against schools 6X their size is a bit much. They are where they should be and should stay there

 

[RunningRon]

After seeing them in person, not surprising CC rolled the Hillmen - nothing personal, it's just that they are very good. Knowing how they played St. Mary's (who was in D1 semis) tells the story. Their record over the past 5 years is 64-9, but don't penalize a program for being the best at their level and winning games through smart football. Bumping them up based on overall outcomes of their contests is more reasonable - CC is outscoring opponents 3:1 to 5:1 every year over the last 5 years (this year it has been 625 PF versus 121 PA) - moving them to D2 is not a stretch.

 

[nascar624]

After seeing them in person, not surprising CC rolled the Hillmen - nothing personal, it's just that they are very good. Knowing how they played St. Mary's (who was in D1 semis) tells the story. Their record over the past 5 years is 64-9, but don't penalize a program for being the best at their level and winning games through smart football. Bumping them up based on overall outcomes of their contests is more reasonable - CC is outscoring opponents 3:1 to 5:1 every year over the last 5 years (this year it has been 625 PF versus 121 PA) - moving them to D2 is not a stretch.

I disagree. This year is an exceptionally good year for CC and they have not dominated where they are at the last 5 years. This is first year in D3 section and only 2nd in VOL. They went 7-3 in regular season last year and didn't win league last year. They would not have won D3 section last year if they were there. My point is with any good program there will be good years and down. This happens to be a good one for them and yes they would probably be competitive in D2 this season, but they lose alot of talent next year and would get killed in D2 next year if they are moved.

Also I'm not a big fan of eliminating our best small school when it comes to SBG. Put CC in D2 and they probably would never or rarely qualify if they were D2. CC is in a competitive section right now and lets not forget they barely beat Oakdale for league title and now has to play them again to win section. They are far from being section champs at this point. Oakdale is going to be out for blood.

 

[WarriorStackWingZone]

Inderkum choked again. When will they become an elite team and win a Section Title?

 

[AthleticTrth209]

Inderkum choked again. When will they become an elite team and win a Section Title?

What happened to TE Josh Falo?? Did he take the night off? Stats say he didn't have any receptions?? How do you not get the ball in a kid's hands that has multiple P12 offers??