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St Marys and Gonzaga..

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Bounced in the second round.
Interesting that st marys is so close to napa, yet 3 McDonald's all Americans from prolific Prep are on Bama. Did Bennett even try to recruit them?
 
They don’t even have the bag to make a phone call to their agents ( st Mary’s)
My sister went to St Mary’s and trust me they got money. But it seems will always accept getting bounced. And will most likely never get one the hump.
 
I'll take the positive angle. St. Mary's after their issues with transfers out following last season, won the WCC regular season title and knocekd off an SEC school with a second half comeback. Ran into a better team and a tough style for SMC with Alabama.

Gonzaga was your traditional Gonzaga this year, but rebounded to win the WCC Tournament and beat the doors off Georgia before giving a real push to Houston.
 
My sister went to St Mary’s and trust me they got money. But it seems will always accept getting bounced. And will most likely never get one the hump.
Considering the fact that they get so many Aussies and European players, which can't be cheap to do, yeah, they got money.

Also, if "Open Gym" Ducas had stuck in Moraga for one more year, they would have been a better, more versatile team. Same for Aidan Mahaney.
 
Considering the fact that they get so many Aussies and European players, which can't be cheap to do, yeah, they got money.

Also, if "Open Gym" Ducas had stuck in Moraga for one more year, they would have been a better, more versatile team. Same for Aidan Mahaney.
There isn’t a school anywhere that gets more out of less every year than st Mary’s. They aren’t ever going to be a sweet 16 type program but getting to the tourney almost every year and usually winning a game in an unbelievable accomplishment. Bennett is one of the best few coaches in America.
 
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Bounced in the second round.
Interesting that st marys is so close to napa, yet 3 McDonald's all Americans from prolific Prep are on Bama. Did Bennett even try to recruit them?
And they lost to a #1 seed and a #2 seed. Hardly games they were expected to win.
 
I didn't expect them to win. I more wanna know if they recruit Prolific Prep
Seriously you think the high profile mostly urban kids that go to PP will be interested in sleepy, sedate Moraga where there's ****-all to do....... I am not surprised in the least bit. I might expect Cal to try to make a dent but little ole St Marys! Similar to what they say about recruiting athletes into Pullman (Washington State) - fly 'em in and out at night so they don't notice the town / surroundings....
 
Besides, Gonzaga gets dudes... What's there for entertainment? Ice skating in the street? Tobogganing on some nearby hill??
 
Why St. Marys always gets a pass I have no clue, everyone worships the ground Bennett walks on, he's run the same slow offense for 25 years, he has never changed, he recuits the same Aussies or Europe players because why I don't know, why would anything chnage if he never does anyhting different, they were down by 15 to Bama and still taking 25 seconds, he can only win one way, sure it works agaisnt everyone else in that soft league, but he usually always looses to the Zags until this year and they still couldn't even win the WCC tournament this year, why do the zags get ripped for getting good players and dominating, but Marys always gets a pass, like it is ok to be ok with being ok, but St. Marys complaining about not getting players when they don't even try in the bay area is comical. Everyone is celebtating winning 1 tourney game, that is their bar at best, unitl they change their recuruiting style, which they never will, they love those out of country players,
 
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That's sort of what I was saying. But I do get it. He's comfortable and really all he needs to do is best pepperdine and san francisco get to the tournament and things are good.
The players never are in trouble, they graduate, and next year comes along. That's exactly what st marys wants. Usf coach had success and dipped. Bennett is comfortable and doesn't want the stress. But damn as much as I hear about how great Modesto Christian Riordan Sheldon san ramon dougtey is.. how are they not getting every kid
 
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Why St. Marys always gets a pass I have no clue, everyone worships the ground Bennett walks on, he's run the same slow offense for 25 years, he has never changed, he recuits the same Aussies or Europe players because why I don't know, why would anything chnage if he never does anyhting different, they were down by 15 to Bama and still taking 25 seconds, he can only win one way, sure it works agaisnt everyone else in that soft league, but he usually always looses to the Zags until this year and they still couldn't even win the WCC tournament this year, why do the zags get ripped for getting good players and dominating, but Marys always gets a pass, like it is ok to be ok with being ok, but St. Marys complaining about not getting players when they don't even try in the bay area is comical. Everyone is celebtating winning 1 tourney game, that is their bar at best, unitl they change their recuruiting style, which they never will, they love those out of country players,
I don’t know you personally but BINGO.

One person on here said why would kids go to St Mary’s when there is nothing to do. Very untrue. It’s a short ride to plenty to go, hell the roundup, one of the most legendary bar is down the hill.

At the end of the day they fail to ever get over the hump. They can bring in all the aussies they want, by the way a majority of my family resides in Australia and New Zealand. Some great kids down there die sure. But what they fail to do is grab the kids in their own stomping grounds and sorry don’t give me the kids from DLS that are alum and no disrespect to those kids. But when will they land big names.

I mean for Christs sakes even BYU got AJ. But even for some reason a hometown kid in Aidan said adios. Make all that make sense. All my years following prep sports, the St Mary’s excuse has run its course. It’s kind like being a power high school but every single year failing to win it all and in turn saying it’s ok let’s get them next year.
 
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I don’t know you personally but BINGO.

One person on here said why would kids go to St Mary’s when there is nothing to do. Very untrue. It’s a short ride to plenty to go, hell the roundup, one of the most legendary bar is down the hill.

At the end of the day they fail to ever get over the hump. They can bring in all the aussies they want, by the way a majority of my family resides in Australia and New Zealand. Some great kids down there die sure. But what they fail to do is grab the kids in their own stomping grounds and sorry don’t give me the kids from DLS that are alum and no disrespect to those kids. But when will they land big names.

I mean for Christs sakes even BYU got AJ. But even for some reason a hometown kid in Aidan said adios. Make all that make sense. All my years following prep sports, the St Mary’s excuse has run its course. It’s kind like being a power high school but every single year failing to win it all and in turn saying it’s ok let’s get them next year.
Spot on as well! There is talent in the 925, the 510, the 415, and so on, all driving distannce form that beautiful campus, from but for some reason it is only international players! And oh by the way they host a summer league tourney every year but they never get a single kid to commit?! Why does Randy never try and get ahead with those kids, could be such a pipeline, but for some reason he prefers the Aussie pipeline. I will never understand, and the excuse we can't get the good players, can't or don't want to, there is a huge difference. I agree with ANKL that Bennett is comfortable, but he needs to stop pretending the program is better than what it is then, he;s been doing the same thing forever and the results stay the same, maybe beat gonzaga, maybe win a tourney game, but for the life of me I do not understnad why he can not recurit locally, just try it for one year, he is clealry not going anywhere. But if all they want is to stay out of toruble and graduate, that is great but in todays NIL world that just is not going to get it done anymore, it just isn't kids want to get paid and also play in a fun system, Bennett wins a ton of games but nothing special imo.
 
That's sort of what I was saying. But I do get it. He's comfortable and really all he needs to do is best pepperdine and san francisco get to the tournament and things are good.
The players never are in trouble, they graduate, and next year comes along. That's exactly what st marys wants. Usf coach had success and dipped. Bennett is comfortable and doesn't want the stress. But damn as much as I hear about how great Modesto Christian Riordan Sheldon san ramon dougtey is.. how are they not getting every kid
Which if he enjoys the less pressure that is fine and a great life living in moraga and coach basketball for a living, but people compare this guy to Mark Few, whos now been to 2 final 4s, somehting St. Marys will never sniff, shoot, nationally they thing Randy is a top 10 coach in the nation which for the life of me I do not get.....
 
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I don’t know you personally but BINGO.

One person on here said why would kids go to St Mary’s when there is nothing to do. Very untrue. It’s a short ride to plenty to go, hell the roundup, one of the most legendary bar is down the hill.

At the end of the day they fail to ever get over the hump. They can bring in all the aussies they want, by the way a majority of my family resides in Australia and New Zealand. Some great kids down there die sure. But what they fail to do is grab the kids in their own stomping grounds and sorry don’t give me the kids from DLS that are alum and no disrespect to those kids. But when will they land big names.

I mean for Christs sakes even BYU got AJ. But even for some reason a hometown kid in Aidan said adios. Make all that make sense. All my years following prep sports, the St Mary’s excuse has run its course. It’s kind like being a power high school but every single year failing to win it all and in turn saying it’s ok let’s get them next year.
Roundup is an elite hangout spot too!
 
Which if he enjoys the less pressure that is fine and a great life living in moraga and coach basketball for a living, but people compare this guy to Mark Few, whos now been to 2 final 4s, somehting St. Marys will never sniff, shoot, nationally they thing Randy is a top 10 coach in the nation which for the life of me I do not get.....

You people are just morons. He coaches at a tiny school with a 2k seat arena in a mid major conference and is consistently in the top 25 and making ncaa tourneys. Outside of Gonzaga which is a total outlier name a better non power 5 program the last 15 years.
 
What is the expectation for St Mary’s really? They win 20-25 games a year. Make the tourney sometimes. No off the court issues compete for conference title most years. I’d think many programs would take that in a heartbeat. I’m also pretty sure the Aussie handlers are much easier to deal with than any local kids. Randy has done a helluva job in Moraga.
 
Spot on as well! There is talent in the 925, the 510, the 415, and so on, all driving distannce form that beautiful campus, from but for some reason it is only international players! And oh by the way they host a summer league tourney every year but they never get a single kid to commit?! Why does Randy never try and get ahead with those kids, could be such a pipeline, but for some reason he prefers the Aussie pipeline. I will never understand, and the excuse we can't get the good players, can't or don't want to, there is a huge difference. I agree with ANKL that Bennett is comfortable, but he needs to stop pretending the program is better than what it is then, he;s been doing the same thing forever and the results stay the same, maybe beat gonzaga, maybe win a tourney game, but for the life of me I do not understnad why he can not recurit locally, just try it for one year, he is clealry not going anywhere. But if all they want is to stay out of toruble and graduate, that is great but in todays NIL world that just is not going to get it done anymore, it just isn't kids want to get paid and also play in a fun system, Bennett wins a ton of games but nothing special imo.

Roundup is an elite hangout

You people are just morons. He coaches at a tiny school with a 2k seat arena in a mid major conference and is consistently in the top 25 and making ncaa tourneys. Outside of Gonzaga which is a total outlier name a better non power 5 program the last 15 years.
With all due respect I fully respect what you just said. But is it even worth putting either in the rankings. Gonzaga has failed many times over and got there. You don’t need the best roster to win in the end. Coaching plays a role. So yes maybe some of us are morons, but it’s like watching the same movie year after year after year. Eventually the movie gets old. And don’t get this twisted, it happens on all levels of basketball. Not just college. I never said Randy is a bad coach, but as others have said, just maybe, just maybe he should focus on Bay Area kids and west coast kids in general. Instead of 6 foreigners on this last roster. And yes he has Mikey which proves kids will come.
 
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You people are just morons. He coaches at a tiny school with a 2k seat arena in a mid major conference and is consistently in the top 25 and making ncaa tourneys. Outside of Gonzaga which is a total outlier name a better non power 5 program the last 15 years.
this is exactly what we are saying. hes ok being ok.
 
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I’ll say this right now.

The year I coached, I was with Zion Sensley every single day. He was on phone calls with the st Mary’s assistant coaches daily.

Then after the season ended that assistant coach went to Michigan because he went from making 80k in Moraga to making 400k in Ann Arbor.

Now this is the part that a lot of people don’t know. Randy Bennett did not attend ONE of Zions games his entire career, either at Riordan or at Prolific. Now I get Prolific doesn’t play a ton of home games, but the couple they do would have been easy drives for Bennett. Same with Riordan.

All I know is that I would bet my house right now Mikey Lewis will transfer from St Mary’s, it just hasn’t been announced yet. I can’t imagine with his performances against Gonzaga, how some team won’t triple or quadruple St Mary’s offer.

This is a new age where NIL is king. A guy will sit on the bench for 100k instead of start for 50k. And unfortunately for St Mary’s they don’t have a football program to use funds from to improve other athletic programs.

There is a 50-50 chance that within 5 years from now St Mary’s isn’t even a D1 school. Just look at all the teams right now going from D1 to D2 or D3 because of financial problems.

Yes, they make the tournament every year but that can only take you so far. It St Mary’s doesn’t properly play the NIL game right, they will continue to sink lower and lower down the college basketball totem pole.
 
Man 400k??? My pension is abundant and I still got a lot of years left.. but I should have went into coaching!
Ohh and asst makes 400k and people are mad a player wants a piece of the pie.
 
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