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Carroll had nothing to do with it. Reggie Bush and his family. 5 year investigation and only found Bush and his family, nothing at all within the program
I wasn’t implying Carrol did. Previous poster said he lost his job over scandal, I responded if memory serves me right he was already gone.
DA not filing charges ONLY means they don't think a convict-able crime was committed. That sure as heck doesn't mean supervising adults showed "due care" in their responsibilities within the context of the operations of the school and the kids under their supervision. You don't have to commit a crime to show carelessness in your leadership and responsibilities that go with it, something you actually are paid to do.
The video, the injured child, and the practice of "bodies" is fairly damning, so I have some clue, sorry to disappoint.
Yes, "boys will be boys", but that only applies until somebody gets really hurt, and it was preventable, and after that...it is just stupid excuse and saying.
again, he was gone no matter what. not saying he should have been because i surely had strippers on my visits too
You are comparing apples to oranges here with some of your scenarios. On DLS case it occurred off campus if I recall so if that is the case, unless the administration and coaches tried to cover up the incident on campus, how can the coaches be liable and punished. Did the robberies at CV take place on campus and did the coaches know and cover it up? Again the situation and where it occurred dictates responsibility and liability. Now the MD situation while still under investigation, happened on campus in the locker room, so yes coaches and administrators play a role in responsibility.
On an earlier post about why MD is not talking even though no criminal charges are going forward. There is still a huge possibility for civil charges to be filed and until that situation is handled, I do not expect a peep out of MD as they do not want to give any incriminating statement that could cost a lot of money. So until the Civil matter is settled expect MD to be locked together than Fort Knox about this impending situation
with an I. when the girl name ends in an I she always nasty
Again you’re assuming guilt without facts. You have no idea if leadership condoned this activity or not. Guilt isn’t based on your personal feeling or bias, it’s based in facts. You claim I think you saw the video was a adult present? Was coach keeping time scoring blows landed?
I’m not comparing apples to oranges I’m making a point of how ridiculous the position being taken is. We don’t hold people accountable for things they had no knowledge of or control over. If coaches and admin knew about this and ignored of condoned or covered it up that’s a different case.
The action of the player didn’t force him to to spin story and put blame on victim, he made that choice himself. If that’s the case here heads should roll at MD, but until both side have their day we simply don’t know.
Knowledge is a different case yes, however location is also a factor. Being that this incident happened ON CAMPUS IN THE LOCKER ROOM, the coaches and administration can be held liable for negligence. That is my point IN THIS SITUATION only. Obviously, there is no criminal liability however civil liability will probably be pursued and that has a much lower burden to get the result of a judgment. The coaches and administration can not ignore the fact that they left the students unattended in the locker room. If this was an off campus incident there is a different story. My.point is LOCATION plays a very important role in responsibility of the administration and coaches here.
🤔 then every fight on campus should mean a teacher or administrator is liable by this reasoning.It’s impossible for them to be everywhere at all times on campus
And they usually can if it is negligence. THIS IS NOT JUST ANY FIGHT. THIS IS NEGLIGENCE BY SCHOOL COACH and administrators. BIG DIFFERENCE here. Especially since this is not a one off incident but had been ongoing for some time. Sorry but you are grasping at straws here by saying EVERY FIGHT must make every person get fired. There is proof this was not a one time incident and gad been occurring for some time now. The failure of the administration and coaches makes them liable. The fact that you equate one off incidents with a pattern of similar incidents that take place in the same place and often at the same time. Again, maybe not criminally negligent but definitely there will probably be a nice Civil settlement. Again, this was not a one off thing, it happened multiple times and to feign ignorance here is not going to fly. A kid was hurt and affected possibly for life.
Really? What is the proof? You have one person making this claim.There are no other videos which seems strange if this was an on going practice.You’ve already made up your mind without knowing all the facts.
I can’t believe anyone could defend MD. There is video of the incident, because only 1 video has came out so far means it didn’t happen? Did anyone ever think videos have been deleted or never put out there for the fear of being the “one” who brings MD down.
Hazing or anything related has been around locker rooms forever. When I played in the 80’s our coach made it very clear, any issues and you were gone, period. Rollinson has been around long enough to know how to manage a group of HS kids. My guess is he never thought it would have blown up as much as it has. If he had addressed this the day after it happened and kicked the coaches son off the team we wouldn’t even be talking about it.
Hazing or anything related has been around locker rooms forever. When I played in the 80’s our coach made it very clear, any issues and you were gone, period. Rollinson has been around long enough to know how to manage a group of HS kids. My guess is he never thought it would have blown up as much as it has. If he had addressed this the day after it happened and kicked the coaches son off the team we wouldn’t even be talking about it.
The incident itself is not what should cost Rollinson and the MD admin their jobs, it’s their response and actions immediately after.
The proof is on the video with comments made by the kids who have alluded that this was not the first and only time this has happened. Just because only this video came out does not mean it did not happen before. Also, on interviews with the DA there have been comments that this incident was not stand alone but there were body counts being tallied by the players. Just because there is only one video does not mean that it only happened once.
Let’s look at what the facts are not what you want to believe.
There is a video of two kids fighting =facts
Why they are fighting is just an accusation/conjecture.
There is an accusation (not fact at this point) of hazing.
DA of OC released a statement saying there is no evidence of hazing =fact
So I’m going to leave my emotions out of it and understand what is factual at this point until I get any further proven facts on the matter.
😂 the only proof on the video is two kids fighting nothing else.
One party making an accusation isn’t proof
You have one party and only one party making accusations.Maybe they are true I don’t know at this point and neither do the rest of us but the mob is ready to storm the jail for justice.
That is my point on this matter.This society today has forgotten what due process means and why it’s important
The DA did not say no evidence of hazing. What they said was based on the evidence they have, they do not have enough to file charges at this time. That does not mean no hazing went on. It means there is no case for criminal prosecution of hazing. So there may have been hazing but not to the degree of a prosecutable offense. So as far as no hazing going on that remains to be seen. As for criminal hazing, correct there will be no charges at this time.
DA said facts showed to willing participants here that would equate to no hazing. This thread is a prime example of why our media and grifters continue to shovel BS to the masses knowing full well majority will simply act on emotions.
Facts show no prosecutable hazing. Does not mean hazing did not happen. Bog difference. Not going to say if hazing happened or not, just stating that just because the DA is not prosecuting does not mean no hazing happened. It just means no criminal hazing happened. Again we do not have all the facts. The only fact is no criminal hazing charges will not be filed. Now civil charges on hazing can happen and probably will as burden is a lot less in a civil case than a criminal case.
So people are willing participants in their own hazing? That’s news to me, but stranger thinks happen in today’s society.
No. What the DA says that they do not have enough to prosecute the "hazing" as criminal in California law. So that being said, it does not say hazing did not occur. This will go civil court route where the burden of proof is a lot lower than in criminal case. So just because the criminal proof of burden is not met does not mean hazing did not occur.
