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Thank you! Looking forward to seeing, if St. Francis can beat Bellarmine. Bells by 3 68-65
SI’s senior trio of guards too much for Riordan. 65-61
 
SI 31 - Riordan 18 at half. Riordan needs to make a run here early in the third or it's a boat race as SI is playing with a lot of confidence.
 
Saint Ignatius 73 Archbishop Riordan 58 final. Trammell with 24 points / 20 in fourth quarter per Patrick Segurson tweet.

SI in a totally different class than Riordan as the game was never in doubt after 1st quarter. Good crowd at the Forum.

In other WCAL action:
-- Bells V BBall defeats SF 64-61

-- Monarchs beat Valley Christian 65-56

WCAL Standings:
1. Bellarmine 7-0
2. Saint Francis 6-1
3. Saint Ignatius 5-2
4. Archbishop Mitty 3-4 (after starting 0-4)
5. Archbishop Riordan 2-5
5. Sacred Heart Cathedral 2-5
5. Serra 2-5
8. Valley Christian 1-6
 
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Saint Ignatius 73 Archbishop Riordan 58 final. Trammell with 24 points / 20 in fourth quarter per Patrick Segurson tweet.

SI in a totally different class than Riordan as the game was never in doubt after 1st quarter. Good crowd at the Forum.

In other WCAL action:
-- Bells V BBall defeats SF 64-61

-- Monarchs beat Valley Christian 65-56

WCAL Standings:
1. Bellarmine 7-0
2. Saint Francis 6-1
3. Saint Ignatius 5-2
4. Archbishop Mitty 3-4 (after starting 0-4)
5. Archbishop Riordan 2-5
5. Sacred Heart Cathedral 2-5
5. Serra 2-5
8. Valley Christian 1-6
Good coaching will always win out. The teams at the top have superior coaching. SERRA will get up to the 5 slot.
 
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Saint Ignatius 73 Archbishop Riordan
SI in a totally different class than Riordan as the game was never in doubt after 1st quarter. Good crowd at the Forum.
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Really disappointed in the Crusaders' play in front a very good home crowd. They were thoroughly beat in every phase of the game while it appeared the 'Cats were in cruise control. There wasn't much to cheer about because every time Riordan appeared to be chipping at the SI lead, they would commit an unforced turnover, or miss covering a player in their press. There just seemed to be no sense of urgency and confidence in themselves. It doesn't help when you're playing against a good team and your offense only consists of 1 on 1 dribbling with everyone else just standing around. And when you do have a path to the basket, you cannot finish. At least Coach Buck's teams played hard throughout with their physical D and improved as the season progressed. Certainly missing from this team at this point in time. Time to go back to what's worked earlier and play with some purpose and pride.
 
Really disappointed in the Crusaders' play in front a very good home crowd. They were thoroughly beat in every phase of the game while it appeared the 'Cats were in cruise control. There wasn't much to cheer about because every time Riordan appeared to be chipping at the SI lead, they would commit an unforced turnover, or miss covering a player in their press. There just seemed to be no sense of urgency and confidence in themselves. It doesn't help when you're playing against a good team and your offense only consists of 1 on 1 dribbling with everyone else just standing around. And when you do have a path to the basket, you cannot finish. At least Coach Buck's teams played hard throughout with their physical D and improved as the season progressed. Certainly missing from this team at this point in time. Time to go back to what's worked earlier and play with some purpose and pride.
Last year Riordan only won one league game and gave up 71 to SI in their first meeting. This year they already have two league wins and held the 1st place Bells to 64 losing at the buzzer.
 
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I believe Coach Curtin is working the best he can with the talent he has. Same for Coach Buckner. Frankly, the Crusaders haven't had enough pieces for quite awhile.
 
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Good coaching will always win out. The teams at the top have superior coaching. SERRA will get up to the 5 slot.
I beg to differ. A coach’s game plan can keep a team in a game but better players will win a game. Bell,s have a D1 and possible D2guyin Wojo and stubblefield. St. Francis has a high D 1kid and a decent big who will play at the next level. If you look at all the rest of the WCAL schools, none have upper class collegiate talent like Bells and St. Francis. There are teams like SHC, Riordan and Mitty that have excellent Freshman or Sophmores that are projected to be D 1. They will have to wait to be on top and it’s not because of coaching. Chuck Rapp is a great coach but without his two bigs playing this year, they will be stuck in 4-6th place. Players win games. Good Coach’s put players in positions to possibly win the game.
 
Really disappointed in the Crusaders' play in front a very good home crowd. They were thoroughly beat in every phase of the game while it appeared the 'Cats were in cruise control. There wasn't much to cheer about because every time Riordan appeared to be chipping at the SI lead, they would commit an unforced turnover, or miss covering a player in their press. There just seemed to be no sense of urgency and confidence in themselves. It doesn't help when you're playing against a good team and your offense only consists of 1 on 1 dribbling with everyone else just standing around. And when you do have a path to the basket, you cannot finish. At least Coach Buck's teams played hard throughout with their physical D and improved as the season progressed. Certainly missing from this team at this point in time. Time to go back to what's worked earlier and play with some purpose and pride.

It was a frustrating game in that SI came out and punched Riordan in the mouth in the first quarter and flat out boat raced them the rest of the game. I agree with Jordan that this team is missing a bit of the toughness of Coach Buck's teams as they scratched and clawed their way back into games like last night's.

I was hoping that Watida was the missing piece but he's had two back-to-back really ineffective games but maybe he's still struggling with the effects of illness. Season ending injuries to Justice Turner and to a lesser extent Gage Cross have hurt their depth. Justice was a nice piece with his 3 point shooting and length while Gage was a decent backup behind DeSean who needs reps to become stronger in coming years.
 
I beg to differ. A coach’s game plan can keep a team in a game but better players will win a game. Bell,s have a D1 and possible D2guyin Wojo and stubblefield. St. Francis has a high D 1kid and a decent big who will play at the next level. If you look at all the rest of the WCAL schools, none have upper class collegiate talent like Bells and St. Francis. There are teams like SHC, Riordan and Mitty that have excellent Freshman or Sophmores that are projected to be D 1. They will have to wait to be on top and it’s not because of coaching. Chuck Rapp is a great coach but without his two bigs playing this year, they will be stuck in 4-6th place. Players win games. Good Coach’s put players in positions to possibly win the game.
Not going to argue with you but I disagree.
 
Good coaching will always win out. The teams at the top have superior coaching. SERRA will get up to the 5 slot.

Don't blame the coaching. Its all about players. ST ignatius has better players. From 1 through 6. Better players...3 D1 guys to Riordans 1...thats the difference...
 
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Same with Bellarmine and St. Francis.

I think the correct assesment is Bellarmine and St. Francis have reliable/productive players that play the part of interior players.

I noticed Mitch Stephens lovefest of Trammell in his tweets yesterday. I get it, Trammell is a very good player, but he is not in the same level as Trevor Dunbar. Although yesterday's 4th quarter performance was bananas.
 
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The only big men in the WCAL are Serra's Wilson and VC's Tovar. Unfortunately, Wilson has not shown much as he has been injured almost his entire HS career. Tovar dominates against lesser teams, but has not shown the same dominance in league play...The other noted "big men" are Stubblefield and Grigsby and to be honest - they are D2 players. They are too short to play a center/pf position in D1 and don't have the skills /speed to play a stretch guard or forward. Most of the teams (including Riordan) are pretty much the same height in terms of the players that are actually on the floor. VC is the exception.
Trammel is a very exciting HS player and he 's a winner. But he's only 5-8 (in the shade!). Most of his spectacular shots would end up in the stands in college. JC and/or D2 is his likely landing spot.
On the whole, the WCAL is made up of very good HS players, only 1-2% could be considered D1. Nothing wrong with that as that is pretty much the % of players that go D1.
 
The only big men in the WCAL are Serra's Wilson and VC's Tovar. Unfortunately, Wilson has not shown much as he has been injured almost his entire HS career. Tovar dominates against lesser teams, but has not shown the same dominance in league play...The other noted "big men" are Stubblefield and Grigsby and to be honest - they are D2 players. They are too short to play a center/pf position in D1 and don't have the skills /speed to play a stretch guard or forward. Most of the teams (including Riordan) are pretty much the same height in terms of the players that are actually on the floor. VC is the exception.
Trammel is a very exciting HS player and he 's a winner. But he's only 5-8 (in the shade!). Most of his spectacular shots would end up in the stands in college. JC and/or D2 is his likely landing spot.
On the whole, the WCAL is made up of very good HS players, only 1-2% could be considered D1. Nothing wrong with that as that is pretty much the % of players that go D1.

Grigsby has D1 offers. He is very different from Stubblefield, as Grigsby is athletic. He will be a college forward. Trammel is D1. If the guard that started in front of him( that is the same size as him) started in front of him on the oakland soldiers is going to Virginia then he, Trammel will get something late.
 
Grigsby has D1 offers. He is very different from Stubblefield, as Grigsby is athletic. He will be a college forward. Trammel is D1. If the guard that started in front of him( that is the same size as him) started in front of him on the oakland soldiers is going to Virginia then he, Trammel will get something late.
A lot of spectacular 5'9", 5'10" guards. He makes S.I. better, but its different in college. He can play somewhere. Only have to look as far as Trevor Dumbar. Nothing wrong with being a quality high school ball player. He will find the right fit.
 
A lot of spectacular 5'9", 5'10" guards. He makes S.I. better, but its different in college. He can play somewhere. Only have to look as far as Trevor Dumbar. Nothing wrong with being a quality high school ball player. He will find the right fit.

Dunbar went to the Pac 12 out of SI. He was good. A floor general. TRAMMEL not as good as a pg/passer. But way more athletic.
 
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Dunbar went to the Pac 12 out of SI. He was good. A floor general. TRAMMEL not as good as a pg/passer. But way more athletic.
Only other <6 ft guard from the WCAL to play D1 that I recall is Ray Kelly. TCU/UCSB.
 
Grigsby has D1 offers. He is very different from Stubblefield, as Grigsby is athletic. He will be a college forward. Trammel is D1. If the guard that started in front of him( that is the same size as him) started in front of him on the oakland soldiers is going to Virginia then he, Trammel will get something late.
Trammel is definitely not D1. Not hating. Just my honest opinion.
 
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Dunbar went to the Pac 12 out of SI. He was good. A floor general. TRAMMEL not as good as a pg/passer. But way more athletic.
Late signee who lasted one year. Agree, enjoyable to watch at high school level. Hear playing in phillipines, may be a nice fit.
look there is nothing wrong with going DII, DIII, or NAIA; all have one thing in common, a college diploma.
 
I believe Riordan's Alton Byrd was <6ft. Columbia University?
 
We can add Frankie Ferrari to that list. He did play at Riordan for a a year. He also went back and forth from JC.He has played lights out in some games and others he has been so so. He is a lot better than I thought he would be. Much kudos to him for sticking to it and playing D1. I was at the Gonzaga game and he was only reason they were I that game.
 
We can add Frankie Ferrari to that list. He did play at Riordan for a a year. He also went back and forth from JC.He has played lights out in some games and others he has been so so. He is a lot better than I thought he would be. Much kudos to him for sticking to it and playing D1. I was at the Gonzaga game and he was only reason they were I that game.
Come on Man, speak truths. Freshmen Soule Boum(Oakland Tech) lead USF that night with 22 points, Frankie played well with 18. Soule leads the team in scoring for the season as well. A freshmen.
 
We can add Frankie Ferrari to that list. He did play at Riordan for a a year. He also went back and forth from JC.He has played lights out in some games and others he has been so so. He is a lot better than I thought he would be. Much kudos to him for sticking to it and playing D1. I was at the Gonzaga game and he was only reason they were I that game.

Can someone that has factual information tell me Ferrari's story on why he seemingly jumped from Burlingame to Riordan to Burglingame to USF to La Canada to USF? Does this guy have some sort of phobia that we don't know of? Is this the quentessential definition of a "millennial"?
 
Come on Man, speak truths. Freshmen Soule Boum(Oakland Tech) lead USF that night with 22 points, Frankie played well with 18. Soule leads the team in scoring for the season as well. A freshmen.
I am speaking the truth! Souled was way less efficient. He was swatted and or turned it over multiple times going into the Lane that night. Frankie had 5 assists and 1 turnover and should have had more assists. Souls had a whopping 0 assists and 3 turnovers. As a PG you are supposed to take care of the basketball and distribute the ball as you see fit.
 
Soule is and was playing the two guard spot, which is why Frankie was on the floor. 22 points , come on . I was at the game as well
 
Soule had 3 turnovers...Frankie had 1
Everyone gets their shot blocked. Comments like that, people will question your knowledge of the sport.
Soule and Frankie were both 7 or 16 from the field! One finished with 18 the other with 22. Inefficient is your stance though? You can continue with Frankie was the only reason the team competed if you want. Basketball is a team game. Frankie rebounded and passed to himself and defended every player on the court. Ok
 
Soule had 3 turnovers...Frankie had 1
Everyone gets their shot blocked. Comments like that, people will question your knowledge of the sport.
Soule and Frankie were both 7 or 16 from the field! One finished with 18 the other with 22. Inefficient is your stance though? You can continue with Frankie was the only reason the team competed if you want. Basketball is a team game. Frankie rebounded and passed to himself and defended every player on the court. Ok

Frankie passed to himself? Does he assist on his own baskets?
 
Soule had 3 turnovers...Frankie had 1
Everyone gets their shot blocked. Comments like that, people will question your knowledge of the sport.
Soule and Frankie were both 7 or 16 from the field! One finished with 18 the other with 22. Inefficient is your stance though? You can continue with Frankie was the only reason the team competed if you want. Basketball is a team game. Frankie rebounded and passed to himself and defended every player on the court. Ok
You and I clearly watched two different games. Guarantee Frankie’s plus minus was a lot better than Soule.
My original point was that Frankie played in the WCAL, is under 6’, and has played much better than my expectations of him at D1 level. You can Question my knowledge all you want Irishmen. Did you even grow playing basketball in Ireland? Scoring is only one part of the game!
 
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