What Is A Section Title Worth?

[NSBasketball]

A Section Title has become sought after for many schools, to the point once they win the Section they tend to pack it in. What is a Section Title really worth? A Blue pennant? Might I add, CA is the only State with this format. The great John Wooden at UCLA didn't even hang League or FINAL FOUR banners, National Championships only. I place a extremely high value on a NorCal or SoCal title and obviously a STATE Title.
Congrats to DeLa (The NorCal favorite all year), Berkeley (who has been taking a beating on this board), Serra, Manteca, Palma and the always highly favored St. Joe's. Winning a Section Title is definitely a big accomplishment, definitely not a "HUGE" accomplishment, the reason is your only beating teams in your league or given area, most you have played multiple times. (All this came to mind watching the insurance commercial where the dad takes his son's participation trophy and scribbles "Champs" on it with a Sharpie.)

 

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A Section Title has become sought after for many schools, to the point once they win the Section they tend to pack it in. What is a Section Title really worth? A Blue pennant? Might I add, CA is the only State with this format. The great John Wooden at UCLA didn't even hang League or FINAL FOUR banners, National Championships only. I place a extremely high value on a NorCal or SoCal title and obviously a STATE Title.
Congrats to DeLa (The NorCal favorite all year), Berkeley (who has been taking a beating on this board), Serra, Manteca, Palma and the always highly favored St. Joe's. Winning a Section Title is definitely a big accomplishment, definitely not a "HUGE" accomplishment, the reason is your only beating teams in your league or given area, most you have played multiple times. (All this came to mind watching the insurance commercial where the dad takes his son's participation trophy and scribbles "Champs" on it with a Sharpie.)

Depends on what division and section. A section d1 title in the sjs is more impressive than a NorCal d1 or d2 title this year.

 

[Mr. Direct]

A Section Title has become sought after for many schools, to the point once they win the Section they tend to pack it in. What is a Section Title really worth? A Blue pennant? Might I add, CA is the only State with this format. The great John Wooden at UCLA didn't even hang League or FINAL FOUR banners, National Championships only. I place a extremely high value on a NorCal or SoCal title and obviously a STATE Title.
Congrats to DeLa (The NorCal favorite all year), Berkeley (who has been taking a beating on this board), Serra, Manteca, Palma and the always highly favored St. Joe's. Winning a Section Title is definitely a big accomplishment, definitely not a "HUGE" accomplishment, the reason is your only beating teams in your league or given area, most you have played multiple times. (All this came to mind watching the insurance commercial where the dad takes his son's participation trophy and scribbles "Champs" on it with a Sharpie.)

You can make the same argument for NorCal titles since the open division was created as well. Would Berkeley have won their D1 title if De La Salle was in the bracket? Serra win Division 2 if St. Francis, Modesto Christian, Folsom, Sacramento were in the bracket? You think Manteca beats Moreau in D3? How about Palma beating Salesian in D4? No way. What sucks is that winning your NorCal Division used to be HUGE accomplishment. It's lost much of it's luster unfortunately.

 

[passfirst]

Besides the teams that go to open if you win your section most likely your first game and maybe even the second game would mean easy road to semifinals in Norcal. But for teams in open no longer the case, your first round game could be a team that's good enough to win norcal. I see your point though. Poor Weston Ranch won title yet had to be unhappy to see a potential 2nd Rd match up with O'Dowd!

 

[NorCalSportsFan]

The value of any title is increased exposure and also may in some cases perpetuate in top players wanting to play at the title winning school. There is no need for recruiting. Success perpetuates in some ways further success. The same can be said of league titles.

 

[dhickman7]

For the players it means alot to be able to go back to your hs in 20 yrs & see your banner hanging

 

[jordan24]

In most cases, Section titles, offers homecourt in the NorCals leading up to the title game. However, with the Open format, that gets thrown out the window. Case in point, St. Francis.

 

[infofreak]

It's great for the young men playing, even if it is watered down from the past. It's also valuable for those good players whose teams don't hit the open. Gives them a bit more intensity to test their games. Scouts do go watch the games, if just to see certain players. But I agree the first couple of rounds are walk throughs. If Berkeley could somehow beat Crespi we would have a new conversation about the value of non open championships.

 

[CityVibesII]

As for WCAL teams, a WCAL title is more difficult in attaining than a section title and carries more weight with this observer. Things get difficult again, come NorCals.

Now if there was only one division like back in 70s and early 80s, I would put more weight on CCS. Back then if you didnt win league title, you didnt advance to CCS. In fact, only top four teams made league playoffs. Minus that, your season was over.

 

[Coach FJ]

A Section Title has become sought after for many schools, to the point once they win the Section they tend to pack it in. What is a Section Title really worth? A Blue pennant? Might I add, CA is the only State with this format. The great John Wooden at UCLA didn't even hang League or FINAL FOUR banners, National Championships only. I place a extremely high value on a NorCal or SoCal title and obviously a STATE Title.
Congrats to DeLa (The NorCal favorite all year), Berkeley (who has been taking a beating on this board), Serra, Manteca, Palma and the always highly favored St. Joe's. Winning a Section Title is definitely a big accomplishment, definitely not a "HUGE" accomplishment, the reason is your only beating teams in your league or given area, most you have played multiple times. (All this came to mind watching the insurance commercial where the dad takes his son's participation trophy and scribbles "Champs" on it with a Sharpie.)

 

[Coach FJ]

A section title is huge to about 95% us that haven't won one and at the beginning of each season you're not favored to win one and you're trying to do it without any all-anything level players.

 

[iamgearyblvd]

I agree with the poster above who mentioned having banners with whatever league, section, state championship only helps feed into the history of the school. It attractive to the future students that may attend that school. If you peel the layers, yes it feels watered down to win a non-Open title because your school did not play the absolute best of the best. But thats not their fault. Its the CIF's rules. This isnt Hoosiers. A title is a title. You still have to play the competition and earn it.

 

[NSBasketball]

Mr. Direct: Modesto Christian is Div 1. But at the same time I;m not sure who wins those divisions if there were no "Open". Many teams panic and fold come playoff time. After watching Berkeley last week, they way they are rolling right now they would give any team in NorCal problems, they are a tough match-up. Moreau fell to Sheldon at home, Sheldon is solid but they are not Chino Hills. Winning State means something regardless of what division. Just not sure exactly how much value we should be placing on Section Titles.

 

[Coach FJ]

Manteca wins a NorCal but couldn't win a League or Section title, I'm sure Weston Ranch will forever kick themselves for that home loss and will never fully respect or think of Manteca's win without mentioning we whipped them for league and sections.

 

[NSBasketball]

Coach FJ: That speaks to my original point. Their is too much familiarity in the the "Section Playoffs". Teams know they will live to see another day win or lose. (2 wins and you automatically advance) The NorCal playoffs is win or go home. It brings out a difference in teams and players. Manteca beat ODowd by 25 points, 70-45, the same team that went to Stockton and thumped Weston Ranch in their home gym. Look what Berkeley High has done with their backs against the wall.

 

[GOTF]

Local article on this very subject....

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/artic...e-should-carry-more-weight/1776425160224.html

 

[NSBasketball]

GOTF: Great article, thanks for the link. So basically, a Section Title is worthy because its attainable? Easier to win? Winning a State title is a daunting task and out of reach? Once again I am back to my initial thought, a Section Title carries very little weight.