BIG Folsom, BIG Folsom, BIG Folsom

[FootballJunkie101]

Folsom is nationally ranked #26 in the entire country and outside of DLS they have scheduled one team with a State ranking lower than 200. And that team is ranked around 150 in the State. Meaning, it's pretty damn obvious they schedule to win not to challenge themselves. That said, I do understand that Doherty is the new head coach there so maybe he'll beef up Folsom's scheduling since the last staff didn't. I love Folsom football but ya'll can do better with scheduling. Am I being too hard on Folsom or do I have a VALID argument with their weak scheduling? Whatever happened to "Rising up to the challenge of our Rivals?" For those that don't agree with me I'll take all the smoke here. P.S. the FootballJunkie101 LET'S GO!!!

 

[Truthhertz]

Folsom is nationally ranked #26 in the entire country and outside of DLS they have scheduled one team with a rating lower than 200. And that team is rated around 150 in the country. Meaning, it's pretty damn obvious they schedule to win not to challenge themselves. That said, I do understand that Doherty is the new head coach there so maybe he'll beef up Folsom's scheduling since the last staff didn't. I love Folsom football but ya'll can do better with scheduling. Am I being too hard on Folsom or do I have a VALID argument with their weak scheduling? Whatever happened to "Rising up to the challenge of our Rivals?" For those that don't agree with me I'll take all the smoke here. P.S. the FootballJunkie101 LET'S GO!!!

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It’s no secret Folsom and a few other programs seem to go out of their way to avoid competition. These schools will plug in one questionable game followed by a bunch of stat padding opponents. It’s pretty sad honestly.

 

[SpeedCity51]

Folsom is nationally ranked #26 in the entire country and outside of DLS they have scheduled one team with a rating lower than 200. And that team is rated around 150 in the country. Meaning, it's pretty damn obvious they schedule to win not to challenge themselves. That said, I do understand that Doherty is the new head coach there so maybe he'll beef up Folsom's scheduling since the last staff didn't. I love Folsom football but ya'll can do better with scheduling. Am I being too hard on Folsom or do I have a VALID argument with their weak scheduling? Whatever happened to "Rising up to the challenge of our Rivals?" For those that don't agree with me I'll take all the smoke here. P.S. the FootballJunkie101 LET'S GO!!!

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Are you talking about the ratings of the teams on their schedule or their ranking?

 

[forgotemail]

Folsom is nationally ranked #26 in the entire country and outside of DLS they have scheduled one team with a rating lower than 200. And that team is rated around 150 in the country. Meaning, it's pretty damn obvious they schedule to win not to challenge themselves. That said, I do understand that Doherty is the new head coach there so maybe he'll beef up Folsom's scheduling since the last staff didn't. I love Folsom football but ya'll can do better with scheduling. Am I being too hard on Folsom or do I have a VALID argument with their weak scheduling? Whatever happened to "Rising up to the challenge of our Rivals?" For those that don't agree with me I'll take all the smoke here. P.S. the FootballJunkie101 LET'S GO!!!

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Watch it you’ll lose your membership with question like these lol. I dont think scheduling will get better because I’m not sure if the new coach will “get” the same level of players. Folsom is the best thing we got in Sacramento so we might as well cheer for them. Hopefully Capital Christian can be that private in our area that gets all the talent because Folsom being a public school and getting all these talented kids has a lot of parents bothered

 

[FootballJunkie101]

Watch it you’ll lose your membership with question like these lol. I dont think scheduling will get better because I’m not sure if the new coach will “get” the same level of players. Folsom is the best thing we got in Sacramento so we might as well cheer for them. Hopefully Capital Christian can be that private in our area that gets all the talent because Folsom being a public school and getting all these talented kids has a lot of parents bothered

You right. I forgot about the uproar last year. I'm just a competitive type of guy and expect anyone in the coaching field to be on my level. That's all. I hope Streak1 don't see this as a disrespectful thread but I could see him taking action if it gets out of control. Hopefully we can have a civil conversation on this where everyone respects one another. I come in peace but I really don't get how they created this schedule with so much talent. It's really mind boggling to me.

 

[FootballJunkie101]

Are you talking about the ratings of the teams on their schedule or their ranking?

Ranking. But you could add the ratings if you like.... Thanks for catching the Rank vs Rate error.

 

[SacFaithful]

1) anyone besides me tired of Folsom blasting Jesuit. 2.) Jesuit, please stop scheduling Folsom. 3.) What do we have to do to get a Cent 10 vs Folsom regular season game?

 

[THEOC89]

Folsom is nationally ranked #26 in the entire country and outside of DLS they have scheduled one team with a ranking lower than 200. And that team is ranked around 150 in the country. Meaning, it's pretty damn obvious they schedule to win not to challenge themselves. That said, I do understand that Doherty is the new head coach there so maybe he'll beef up Folsom's scheduling since the last staff didn't. I love Folsom football but ya'll can do better with scheduling. Am I being too hard on Folsom or do I have a VALID argument with their weak scheduling? Whatever happened to "Rising up to the challenge of our Rivals?" For those that don't agree with me I'll take all the smoke here. P.S. the FootballJunkie101 LET'S GO!!!

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Great Post from one of the best poster’s that I have read on these message boards....

I also read on the national message board from a very well respected Corona Centennial poster that the reason CC scheduled MD was that Both Mission Viejo And Folsom Declined to play them...

I don’t know if that is true or not but just thought I would share...

Would love to her from someone close to folsom who could shed some light....

 

[colhenrylives]

Watch it you’ll lose your membership with question like these lol. I dont think scheduling will get better because I’m not sure if the new coach will “get” the same level of players. Folsom is the best thing we got in Sacramento so we might as well cheer for them. Hopefully Capital Christian can be that private in our area that gets all the talent because Folsom being a public school and getting all these talented kids has a lot of parents bothered

The parents should be thrilled. Come on over to the Central Coast Section and take a gander at what the WCAL does to the vast bulk of the publics. It isn't pretty. Kudos to a public school that dominates.

 

[FootballJunkie101]

Great Post from one of the best poster’s that I have read on these message boards....

I also read on the national message board from a very well respected Corona Centennial poster that the reason CC scheduled MD was that Both Mission Viejo And Folsom Declined to play them...

I don’t know if that is true or not but just thought I would share...

Would love to her from someone close to folsom who could shed some light....

Stop it! Cut it out! You're making me blush.... Let's hope and pray coach Doherty doesn't schedule like the last staff if he has the same amount of success as they did. 10+ years of great success and only two SoCal powers scheduled Chaminade and Cathedral Catholic. Thanks for the props!

 

[forgotemail]

Folsom is nationally ranked #26 in the entire country and outside of DLS they have scheduled one team with a ranking lower than 200. And that team is ranked around 150 in the country. Meaning, it's pretty damn obvious they schedule to win not to challenge themselves. That said, I do understand that Doherty is the new head coach there so maybe he'll beef up Folsom's scheduling since the last staff didn't. I love Folsom football but ya'll can do better with scheduling. Am I being too hard on Folsom or do I have a VALID argument with their weak scheduling? Whatever happened to "Rising up to the challenge of our Rivals?" For those that don't agree with me I'll take all the smoke here. P.S. the FootballJunkie101 LET'S GO!!!

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Maxpreps has sammamish ranked 12th

 

[raffidog123]

Chaminade and Cathedral Catholic are good teams, but they are not considered "powers".

 

[SpeedCity51]

Ranking. But you could add the ratings if you like.... Thanks for catching the Rank vs Rate error.

No worries, it just threw me off when I was skimming through your post the first time, wasn’t sure if you were saying Folsom was playing a good or bad schedule lol.

 

[FootballJunkie101]

Chaminade and Cathedral Catholic are good teams, but they are not considered "powers".

I'm not touching that one. Though I will say I was trying to be nice.

 

[SacFaithful]

Not saying they dodge people, but I get a lot of SoCal games on tv. Cent 10 coach always says he will play anyone home or away. I’m sure he doesn’t want to play a team that will likely put them out of the playoffs in the second game of the season. I mean what does it hurt? They don’t have to play de la Salle to get to the state final. At some point doesn’t pride kick in? You can win 10 titles but in the final rankings always be ranked 4 or 5? At some point that De la Salle rule will be eliminated, and they will have to hold their own again.

 

[FootballJunkie101]

Not saying they dodge people, but I get a lot of SoCal games on tv. Cent 10 coach always says he will play anyone home or away. I’m sure he doesn’t want to play a team that will likely put them out of the playoffs in the second game of the season. I mean what does it hurt? They don’t have to play de la Salle to get to the state final. At some point doesn’t pride kick in? You can win 10 titles but in the final rankings always be ranked 4 or 5? At some point that De la Salle rule will be eliminated, and they will have to hold their own again.

FACTS!

 

[WWHS44]

Wasn't that Cathedral Catholic that took the best "Folsom" team ever to the brink of disaster?

 

[pastyfastquick3]

This is a great topic.

Some of this griping is warranted. Some is not. While I can't comment on the new coaches and what they chose to do in the future, I will say that Folsom has never said no to playing anyone. In fact, it has been extremely difficult to schedule every season. I will also say that there has been teams that have DECLINED to play Folsom. I don't believe any of it was malicious and was mainly due to other conflicts. I do know from personal experience that just to get the DLS game last year and this year took some moving of mountains. Anyone who isn't just a fan and has been in coaching, knows how difficult it can be to schedule. With that said- some of the gripes are legitimate.

I agree that playing CC would be awesome for everyone. While I do know that CC would love to play Folsom and vice versa, there was an issue on the CC side with travel- more than once. It has nothing to do with not wanting to play each other.

On the other side of the token- I believe the subject of Folsom ruffles so many feathers because they have upset the norm in CA HSFB, especially in NorCal. They are one of the only publics in CA right now making national waves. Some people simply do not like or respect that. Even if Folsom were to travel to CC and beat them- what next? The same posters commenting above would just scream, "So what, CC was in a down year! You still can't beat SJB or MD!" It would literally never end. That is why the coaching staff has no obligation to random Internet posters, yet must protect the interests of the coaching staff, players, and community it represents....It is a public school.

I think the clamoring for Folsom to play CC or maybe a Mission Viejo is warranted. 100 percent. But honestly- the likes of MD and SJB are essentially Academy teams. They are not realistic versions of general HSFB and they abide by different rules than public schools. That is a fact. This is what really ruffles feathers....A handful of posters will say this is an excuse and it shouldn't matter because you should "want to play the best." Well, yes, within reason. I have no issue with them playing MD or SJB honestly- but I think the obsession with playing Academy teams like that is pretty extreme.

I think Folsom is playing who they should play this year. They have DLS at home (on the road last year). They play in a tough SFL. Sure it would be nice for them to have another marquee game, but we don't know the details. They still have to run the SJS gauntlet and make it through NorCal.

I hope they personally get Narbonne this year somehow. It would be nice for SoCal to go 0-7 against Folsom, especially after many of the SoCal posters came so close to their dream of seeing Folsom getting knocked off by CC last year.

 

[LecheDeMiPalo]

Watch it you’ll lose your membership with question like these lol. I dont think scheduling will get better because I’m not sure if the new coach will “get” the same level of players. Folsom is the best thing we got in Sacramento so we might as well cheer for them. Hopefully Capital Christian can be that private in our area that gets all the talent because Folsom being a public school and getting all these talented kids has a lot of parents bothered

Folsom is the best thing going in Sac until Alberghini retires or kicks the bucket. Let Grant get a real coach and it's over for Folsom.

 

[FootballJunkie101]

Even if Folsom were to travel to CC and beat them- what next? The same posters commenting above would just scream, "So what, CC was in a down year! You still can't beat SJB or MD!" It would literally never end. That is why the coaching staff has no obligation to random Internet posters, yet must protect the interests of the coaching staff, players, and community it represents....It is a public school.

^^^This was the only part of your post I disagreed with. I would personally give Folsom a lot of credit for playing a team like CC or MV win, lose or draw. I wish they had scheduled Narbonne as well this year. It's crazy to me Buchanan can get Narbonne but Folsom can't. And it's also crazy to me that Buchanan has a stronger pre-season schedule than Folsom. Buchanan scheduled Narbonne, Liberty (Bakersfield) Edison (Fresno) and DLS (Concord). Every one of these teams have been ranked lower than 150 in the state. And the past coaching staff should not have cared about what posters are saying when it comes to challenging their football program at the highest level. And the SFL hasn't been as strong since the departure of Ernie Cooper and even Casey Taylor. Anyway, that was a great and very informative post and I hope you keep them coming. Not hating on Folsom just want them to challenge themselves. Go Folsom!!!

 

[raffidog123]

Good takes; I cannot agree with statement that folsom has never said no to anyone. We have one great program in Nor Cal in DLS and one very good program in Folsom. Both schools should be playing at least one game with a top 15 nationally ranked team.

 

[townbiz24]

This is a great topic.

Some of this griping is warranted. Some is not. While I can't comment on the new coaches and what they chose to do in the future, I will say that Folsom has never said no to playing anyone. In fact, it has been extremely difficult to schedule every season. I will also say that there has been teams that have DECLINED to play Folsom. I don't believe any of it was malicious and was mainly due to other conflicts. I do know from personal experience that just to get the DLS game last year and this year took some moving of mountains. Anyone who isn't just a fan and has been in coaching, knows how difficult it can be to schedule. With that said- some of the gripes are legitimate.

I agree that playing CC would be awesome for everyone. While I do know that CC would love to play Folsom and vice versa, there was an issue on the CC side with travel- more than once. It has nothing to do with not wanting to play each other.

On the other side of the token- I believe the subject of Folsom ruffles so many feathers because they have upset the norm in CA HSFB, especially in NorCal. They are one of the only publics in CA right now making national waves. Some people simply do not like or respect that. Even if Folsom were to travel to CC and beat them- what next? The same posters commenting above would just scream, "So what, CC was in a down year! You still can't beat SJB or MD!" It would literally never end. That is why the coaching staff has no obligation to random Internet posters, yet must protect the interests of the coaching staff, players, and community it represents....It is a public school.

I think the clamoring for Folsom to play CC or maybe a Mission Viejo is warranted. 100 percent. But honestly- the likes of MD and SJB are essentially Academy teams. They are not realistic versions of general HSFB and they abide by different rules than public schools. That is a fact. This is what really ruffles feathers....A handful of posters will say this is an excuse and it shouldn't matter because you should "want to play the best." Well, yes, within reason. I have no issue with them playing MD or SJB honestly- but I think the obsession with playing Academy teams like that is pretty extreme.

I think Folsom is playing who they should play this year. They have DLS at home (on the road last year). They play in a tough SFL. Sure it would be nice for them to have another marquee game, but we don't know the details. They still have to run the SJS gauntlet and make it through NorCal.

I hope they personally get Narbonne this year somehow. It would be nice for SoCal to go 0-7 against Folsom, especially after many of the SoCal posters came so close to their dream of seeing Folsom getting knocked off by CC last year.

Block, is that you??? Lol

 

[THEOC89]

Stop it! Cut it out! You're making me blush.... Let's hope and pray coach Doherty doesn't schedule like the last staff if he has the same amount of success as they did. 10+ years of great success and only two SoCal powers scheduled Chaminade and Cathedral Catholic. Thanks for the props!

No Problem!!... Keep in Mind, Folsom "Voluntarily" Scheduled Chaminade who was returning 3 Starters and Haven't done anything in so Cal since 2012-2013... They are not considered any kind of "So Cal Power"....

Folsom was Forced to Play Cathedral Cathlioc in the Playoffs (And should have lost), they did not "Voluntarily" Schedule them....

Folsom's Best "Voluntarily" Scheduled win was back in 2015 over Clayton Valley Charter by 1 Point.... That is the Best Team Folsom Has Voluntarily Scheduled that they have beaten during their run of 4 State BG Championships, 7 Section Titles and 40+ straight league wins....

During that same time, PITT, St. Mary's have Voluntarily Played either Corona Centennial x 2, MD x 1, SJB x 1, MV x 1 (This Year) and of course Del Oro and St Mary's have played DLS like 8 or so times combined...

It's just very disappointing that with their open enrollment advantage and Transfers and Recruits, Folsom cant do better with their Schedule...

 

[pastyfastquick3]

I would personally give Folsom a lot of credit for playing a team like CC or MV win, lose or draw

I see your point. However, I quoted the above from your post to highlight one of my main points, which I go back to. Folsom isn't looking for respect, and saying that people don't respect them simply is a false sense of the real national and local sentiment. They are in the top 30 or so in nearly every national poll or ranking. They are as high as #24. If they weren't respected, none of these polls or rankings would ever have them that high.

The ludicrous and trolling arguments will always be "they scheduled them because they lost starters!" or "they did that on purpose because they knew it was a down year!" Bottom line is people will always find something wrong. Even if Folsom went down and blasted SJB, someone on here, would no doubt, say someone like the waterboy was injured and made SJB lose the game.

They are playing for themselves and for the community in which they represent as a public school. They aren't looking for credit or needing it some random Internet message board posters (no offense). That is such a false narrative.

There is no "open enrollment." Another false narrative and troll. If there was true "open enrollment," kids wouldn't be moving into the City limits to attend the school. They would simply live where they want to live and attend Folsom. This is not the case and has never been. Flush that argument down the toilet where it belongs.

Let's just enjoy what they have done and what we have in front of us. After all, we have a week 3 dandy on our hands on the blue turf. The green machine versus the blue machine. Should be fun boys!

BTW- @FootballJunkie101 I love the "eye of the tiger" man!

 

[pastyfastquick3]

I cannot agree with statement that folsom has never said no to anyone.

Provide us an example of where Folsom said no to playing anyone and we can put this to bed. Just need one.

I gave an example, specifically, of when a school said no to Folsom.

 

[THEOC89]

Not saying they dodge people, but I get a lot of SoCal games on tv. Cent 10 coach always says he will play anyone home or away. I’m sure he doesn’t want to play a team that will likely put them out of the playoffs in the second game of the season. I mean what does it hurt? They don’t have to play de la Salle to get to the state final. At some point doesn’t pride kick in? You can win 10 titles but in the final rankings always be ranked 4 or 5? At some point that De la Salle rule will be eliminated, and they will have to hold their own again.

Before Corona Centennial Scheduled MD for week 0 This Year they Offered Both Folsom and Mission Viejo a week 0 game...

MV already had a Trip to Hawaii Planned and they Scheduled a Scrimmage with CC instead... A game is likely for these two teams next year...

Folsom Declined the week 0 game with Corona Centennial... And Folsom was obviously open and didn't play last week...

Funny how St. Mary's "Break a 2 year deal" and Drop a Team Like James Logan off their Schedule and replace them with Mission Viejo while also having PITT and DLS on their Schedule... But somehow Folsom cant get out of a 2 year deal with Antelope (who they beat 40-0 last year), and play CC in week 0....

Didn't Antelope just get Blown out By Rocklin?.... No wonder Folsom wouldn't "Break That Contract"....

 

[pastyfastquick3]

Cent 10 coach always says he will play anyone home or away.

Yes, he has said this. I can comment from inside knowledge that Folsom and Cen10 did talk about a game this year. I can confirm that Cen10 had a major issue with travel and needed/wanted a home game or one in SoCal. Folsom went on the road last year in week 0 and also traveled to the LA area early in the season. I know it was there intent to stay close to home for week 0. However, they were willing to take on anyone. Unfortunately, that didn't work.

I do wish it did though. From the sloppiness I saw from Cen10, Folsom would probably be 8-0 now against SoCal all time.

 

[THEOC89]

^^^This was the only part of your post I disagreed with. I would personally give Folsom a lot of credit for playing a team like CC or MV win, lose or draw. I wish they had scheduled Narbonne as well this year. It's crazy to me Buchanan can get Narbonne but Folsom can't. And it's also crazy to me that Buchanan has a stronger pre-season schedule than Folsom. Buchanan scheduled Narbonne, Liberty (Bakersfield) Edison (Fresno) and DLS (Concord). Every one of these teams have been ranked lower than 150 in the state. And the past coaching staff should not have cared about what posters are saying when it comes to challenging their football program at the highest level. And the SFL hasn't been as strong since the departure of Ernie Cooper and even Casey Taylor. Anyway, that was a great and very informative post and I hope you keep them coming. Not hating on Folsom just want them to challenge themselves. Go Folsom!!!

Outstanding Post!... Agree 100%.... I also am with you that if Folsom Just played "The Real CC" and MV I personally would not mock their scheduling anymore...

I want Folsom to Do what PITT did and say "We are not afraid to play Coronal Centennial" and get on a bus and go down there (2 years in a row) and try to take them down... What a great win and statement that would be for Nor Cal!!!...

And if they lose, so be it... At least watching Folsom's Great, Talented Team with out of state Recruits and Transfers play a team that can actually beat them is alot more fun then watching them "Hang 60" on a bunch of over-matched local kids who have no shot....

 

[pastyfastquick3]

Folsom is the best thing going in Sac

Good stuff. Thanks brother.

 

[THEOC89]

Yes, he has said this. I can comment from inside knowledge that Folsom and Cen10 did talk about a game this year. I can confirm that Cen10 had a major issue with travel and needed/wanted a home game or one in SoCal. Folsom went on the road last year in week 0 and also traveled to the LA area early in the season. I know it was there intent to stay close to home for week 0. However, they were willing to take on anyone. Unfortunately, that didn't work.

I do wish it did though. From the sloppiness I saw from Cen10, Folsom would probably be 8-0 now against SoCal all time.

Looks like you just provided your own example of Folsom saying "No" to playing Corona Centennial for week 0...

PITT Traveled down to Corona Centennial 2 years in a row so your reasoning above looks like more Folsom excuses for ducking Corona Centennial....

Also, I have inside knowledge that the CC offered to come to Folsom but Folsom said "Our Schedule is Full".... CC was looking for a Road game for week 0 not a home game...

 

[pastyfastquick3]

CC was looking for a Road game for week 0 not a home game...

False, as evidenced by staying in SoCal. This was their "concession." They made it clear they would NOT travel to NorCal this season. In fact, they have never traveled to NorCal. Ever. Folsom has been to SoCal multiple times in the regular season in recent years.

I am actually glad that game didn't get done. From the sloppiness I saw from Cen10, Folsom would have laid the "SoCal 0-8 versus Folsom" hurt on em!

 

[THEOC89]

False, as evidenced by staying in SoCal. This was their "concession." They made it clear they would NOT travel to NorCal this season. In fact, they have never traveled to NorCal. Ever. Folsom has been to SoCal multiple times in the regular season in recent years.

I am actually glad that game didn't get done. From the sloppiness I saw from Cen10, Folsom would have laid the "SoCal 0-8 versus Folsom" hurt on em!

That interesting because they played "On the Road" vs MD....

I am sure if Folsom had enough guts to play MD in week 0, they would look pretty "Sloppy" as well...

I mean come on, Folsom's "Greatest Team Ever" couldn't even score 1 point against DLS in week 0 last year being shut out 14-0....

If a Team like DLS can easily shut out Folsom and make them look 'Sloppy", I think MD wouldn't have any trouble doing the same....

 

[Santa Ball]

OC89/pastyfastquick3
Just to clarify did Folsom turn down Cen10 because of travel hardship?

I think we can agree that Folsom is the best we have in NorCal only second to Sparty. I think we also agree that a more challenging schedule would be intriguing and fun for the fans, but perhaps not in the interest of a local public high school just trying to play some ball.

Iron sharpens Iron so IMHO OC89 points out a valid observation about the Antelope contract. In fairness to the bulldogs there is a lot of misplaced hostility towards Folsom particularly in the SFL but I think most of us are glad to have them on the schedule and respect the program.

 

[RidgeRider]

This is a great topic.

Some of this griping is warranted. Some is not. While I can't comment on the new coaches and what they chose to do in the future, I will say that Folsom has never said no to playing anyone. In fact, it has been extremely difficult to schedule every season. I will also say that there has been teams that have DECLINED to play Folsom. I don't believe any of it was malicious and was mainly due to other conflicts. I do know from personal experience that just to get the DLS game last year and this year took some moving of mountains. Anyone who isn't just a fan and has been in coaching, knows how difficult it can be to schedule. With that said- some of the gripes are legitimate.

I agree that playing CC would be awesome for everyone. While I do know that CC would love to play Folsom and vice versa, there was an issue on the CC side with travel- more than once. It has nothing to do with not wanting to play each other.

On the other side of the token- I believe the subject of Folsom ruffles so many feathers because they have upset the norm in CA HSFB, especially in NorCal. They are one of the only publics in CA right now making national waves. Some people simply do not like or respect that. Even if Folsom were to travel to CC and beat them- what next? The same posters commenting above would just scream, "So what, CC was in a down year! You still can't beat SJB or MD!" It would literally never end. That is why the coaching staff has no obligation to random Internet posters, yet must protect the interests of the coaching staff, players, and community it represents....It is a public school.

I think the clamoring for Folsom to play CC or maybe a Mission Viejo is warranted. 100 percent. But honestly- the likes of MD and SJB are essentially Academy teams. They are not realistic versions of general HSFB and they abide by different rules than public schools. That is a fact. This is what really ruffles feathers....A handful of posters will say this is an excuse and it shouldn't matter because you should "want to play the best." Well, yes, within reason. I have no issue with them playing MD or SJB honestly- but I think the obsession with playing Academy teams like that is pretty extreme.

I think Folsom is playing who they should play this year. They have DLS at home (on the road last year). They play in a tough SFL. Sure it would be nice for them to have another marquee game, but we don't know the details. They still have to run the SJS gauntlet and make it through NorCal.

I hope they personally get Narbonne this year somehow. It would be nice for SoCal to go 0-7 against Folsom, especially after many of the SoCal posters came so close to their dream of seeing Folsom getting knocked off by CC last year.

Del Oro and Amador Valley made the DLS and Folsom game happen. No mountains were moved. They hand delivered it on a silver platter to Folsom’s HC.

 

[Humbab]

This is a great topic.

Some of this griping is warranted. Some is not. While I can't comment on the new coaches and what they chose to do in the future, I will say that Folsom has never said no to playing anyone. In fact, it has been extremely difficult to schedule every season. I will also say that there has been teams that have DECLINED to play Folsom. I don't believe any of it was malicious and was mainly due to other conflicts. I do know from personal experience that just to get the DLS game last year and this year took some moving of mountains. Anyone who isn't just a fan and has been in coaching, knows how difficult it can be to schedule. With that said- some of the gripes are legitimate.

I agree that playing CC would be awesome for everyone. While I do know that CC would love to play Folsom and vice versa, there was an issue on the CC side with travel- more than once. It has nothing to do with not wanting to play each other.

On the other side of the token- I believe the subject of Folsom ruffles so many feathers because they have upset the norm in CA HSFB, especially in NorCal. They are one of the only publics in CA right now making national waves. Some people simply do not like or respect that. Even if Folsom were to travel to CC and beat them- what next? The same posters commenting above would just scream, "So what, CC was in a down year! You still can't beat SJB or MD!" It would literally never end. That is why the coaching staff has no obligation to random Internet posters, yet must protect the interests of the coaching staff, players, and community it represents....It is a public school.

I think the clamoring for Folsom to play CC or maybe a Mission Viejo is warranted. 100 percent. But honestly- the likes of MD and SJB are essentially Academy teams. They are not realistic versions of general HSFB and they abide by different rules than public schools. That is a fact. This is what really ruffles feathers....A handful of posters will say this is an excuse and it shouldn't matter because you should "want to play the best." Well, yes, within reason. I have no issue with them playing MD or SJB honestly- but I think the obsession with playing Academy teams like that is pretty extreme.

I think Folsom is playing who they should play this year. They have DLS at home (on the road last year). They play in a tough SFL. Sure it would be nice for them to have another marquee game, but we don't know the details. They still have to run the SJS gauntlet and make it through NorCal.

I hope they personally get Narbonne this year somehow. It would be nice for SoCal to go 0-7 against Folsom, especially after many of the SoCal posters came so close to their dream of seeing Folsom getting knocked off by CC last year.

Anyone who knows anything about football knows Folsom should stay as far away from Cen10, MD, and SJB as they can. First of all they would get destroyed. But more importantly it makes no sense. They take the safe route and play DLS. Losing to DLS does nothing to Folsom. But if they some how pull off a miracle on smurf turf and beat them they will have to play SoCal’s best anyways. DLS has way more to lose then Folsom. I don’t see anyone bashing Folsom. I see Folsom fans saying “where playing DLS what more do you want?) when in reality DLS is the safest team in the USA that they could possibly play. Way safer then any other team on their weak schedule. To me that’s really sad. Even if you can’t get a good SoCal team. Folsom isn’t even trying to get NorCal’s third, forth, or fifth best team. Just for the record I think Folsom is a very good team.

 

[THEOC89]

OC89/pastyfastquick3
Just to clarify did Folsom turn down Cen10 because of travel hardship?

I think we can agree that Folsom is the best we have in NorCal only second to Sparty. I think we also agree that a more challenging schedule would be intriguing and fun for the fans, but perhaps not in the interest of a local public high school just trying to play some ball.

Iron sharpens Iron so IMHO OC89 points out a valid observation about the Antelope contract. In fairness to the bulldogs there is a lot of misplaced hostility towards Folsom particularly in the SFL but I think most of us are glad to have them on the schedule and respect the program.

Folsom told Corona Centennal their Schedule was full and they couldn’t play them week 0...

There was no discussion of travel but CC needed a road game so they would have come to Folsom but would have needed financial help to make that happen....

So after that CC tried to get Misson Viejo who they ended up scrimmaging and will likely play next year...

At that point sine CC and MD were open and neither could find a game they decided to play each other....

That is what I was told happened...

The Bottom line is PITT traveled back to back years to Corona Centennial with no help from Corona Centennial.... If you really want to play someone you can...

And Since CC took on MD instead of Folsom shows that CC is ducking no one....

Instead of playing CC Folsom kept Antelope on their schedule who they beat 40-0 last year....

The opportunity to play CC is there for Folsom every year, Folsom just doesn’t seem to want it like PITT did.....

 

[FootballJunkie101]

Folsom's Best "Voluntarily" Scheduled win was back in 2015 over Clayton Valley Charter by 1 Point.... That is the Best Team Folsom Has Voluntarily Scheduled that they have beaten during their run of 4 State BG Championships, 7 Section Titles and 40+ straight league wins....

During that same time, PITT, St. Mary's have Voluntarily Played either Corona Centennial x 2, MD x 1, SJB x 1, MV x 1 (This Year) and of course Del Oro and St Mary's have played DLS like 8 or so times combined...

It's just very disappointing that with their open enrollment advantage and Transfers and Recruits, Folsom cant do better with their Schedule...

^^^I had to red flag this because you speak of nothing but the truth here. This was the problem in a nut shell. I pray coach Doherty doesn't follow this disappointing trend.

 

[FootballJunkie101]

Let's just enjoy what they have done and what we have in front of us. After all, we have a week 3 dandy on our hands on the blue turf. The green machine versus the blue machine. Should be fun boys!

BTW- @FootballJunkie101 I love the "eye of the tiger" man!

^^^I totally agree that we should enjoy as well as respect what Folsom has done. What they've done over the years is special and that's coming from more than just myself. Though I may not necessarily agree with parts of the way they went about it, I'm definitely going to enjoy what is in front of us in regards to Folsom. And that also includes watching that beast Joe Ngata playing for Dabo Sweeney at Clemson.

Furthermore, thanks for the compliment on the song. Our kids used to come out from the goalpost to it. Awesome song to get Turn't up too!

 

[Jfoyosoul]

I am a huge folsom fan and i have been disappointed in some of their scheduling..i mean look at what Grant and DO have done. ..that being said it makes sense to schedule DLS first...DLS probably has less talent but the execution is so precise that Folsom needs to beat that since MD and SJB have both talent and execution. I do wish they would schedule the likes of East Salt Lake or BG in addition to a DLS so that could prepare them for MD or SJB...but also dont forget they are a public school so what they have done is incredible..plus we dont know really what goes on with scheduling..these are public school kids and coaches trying to stay up there with major private schools but with a limited athletic budget

 

[THEOC89]

I am a huge folsom fan and i have been disappointed in some of their scheduling..i mean look at what Grant and DO have done. ..that being said it makes sense to schedule DLS first...DLS probably has less talent but the execution is so precise that Folsom needs to beat that since MD and SJB have both talent and execution. I do wish they would schedule the likes of East Salt Lake or BG in addition to a DLS so that could prepare them for MD or SJB...but also dont forget they are a public school so what they have done is incredible..plus we dont know really what goes on with scheduling..these are public school kids and coaches trying to stay up there with major private schools but with a limited athletic budget

The whole “Public School with a limited Athletic Budget” Excuse went out the Window with PITT traveling to Corona Centennial In Back to Back years with no help from CC except their portion of the Gate....

PITT, a public school, had a Schedule of ST Mary’s, SERRA and Corona Centennial with a playoff Bracket where you have to Beat DLS to win last year....

ST. Mary’s is playing PITT, Mission Viejo And DLS.... St Mary’s is a Far less talented then Folsom....

You Folsom guys want all this Credit for Folsom scheduling DLS yet other teams with Far less Talent then Folsom, in far less affluent areas the Folsom, Schedule DLS Plus Other top regional teams.... Even the Public’s....

And Folsom has DLS, MA (D3 Team) Antelope, Jesuit and a SFL league that they haven’t lost to in 40+ games and probly have lost like 4 league games in the last 10 years????.... 7 Section Titles???....

Let’s be real here.... Folsom has no problem doing a go fund me to raise money to go play an overmatched SD team in the SBG because of “The Incredible Community Support”......

So wouldn’t that same Community want to support their team to go to “The Real CC” and prove on the field that they are the #1 Public HSFB team in CA?... And Bring home that title to Nor Cal????....

The time for “Public School” Excuses is over.... You are the Dominate team in your Section by a mile....

Go play CC and stop embarrassing Nor Cal with your Schedule... we are all tired of it....