C-let vs. SRV

[personalogic]

Saw C-let play last night for the first time this season. Beat SRV by 11, which looks closer than it was. Basically, when C-let pounded the ball to its post players SRV was helpless. Both teams struggled to make jump shots.

Sure seems like once its current crop of junior bigs graduates, C-let becomes a good but not elite team. No size in the sophomore class or, as far as I can see, any attention grabbing guards. Watched the JV game beforehand and didn't see any game changers there either.

 

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Saw C-let play last night for the first time this season. Beat SRV by 11, which looks closer than it was. Basically, when C-let pounded the ball to its post players SRV was helpless. Both teams struggled to make jump shots.

Sure seems like once its current crop of junior bigs graduates, C-let becomes a good but not elite team. No size in the sophomore class or, as far as I can see, any attention grabbing guards. Watched the JV game beforehand and didn't see any game changers there either.

Congratulations to Carondelet. Good luck to both teams moving forward.

 

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personalogic,

It's hard to argue any of those facts. Except I notice at least a couple of potential so call game changers on JV. The game wasn't as close as the final score. But the score was about what I pictured it being based on my knowledge of the way each team plays the game. I did picture SRV shooting the ball a bit better and using better defensive schemes inside. But as I always say "you can't control your performance". Some games you'll shoot well, and other games you can't throw a rock in the ocean. And some times you run into games where you don't matchup as well as you would like to.

As far as the future goes for Carondelet, I agree, once next year's class graduates the free ride might turn into at least a small fee. But I must say even though Carondelet may not enjoy the typical size advantage, they will still have girls who will get after the ball and give a terrific effort. I think if brought along and developed right Kimani Holloway #42, Jalyssa Portis #4, and perhaps 1 or 2 others on JV could be so call game changers. The talent has to be recognized and developed. Not sure however it will happen in the current system. So they may want to look into the blue print teams like Eastside College Prep, Miramonte, Pinewood, Bishop Odowd (this years team), and so many other teams often without much size who realize basketball is played 5 on 5 on a full court not 3 on 3 on a half court. I always appreciate the coaches who know how to put the players they are coaching in the best lanes for each individual based on their size, talent,basketball IQ, and skill level. Those coaches typically develop better and more confident and productive players by the time each player leaves their program. They often find more team success as well.

So there are ways for smaller teams to still be very successful. One way in particular is to apply pressure and push the tempo to make their presence felt out on the perimeter where smaller players (especially those with good offensive and defensive fundamentals) can be far more productive than they might be under or near the basket. Just imagine what you could do if you have a good mix of size, talent, basketball IQ, fundamental skill level, and experience, such as Carondelet has enjoyed the past decade or so. That has helped them dominate league for the past decade or two. I don't think they have loss more than one league game in the past decade. I am not sure about any other than the loss to Monte Vista about 6 years ago. But I only go back about 8 years following Carondelet basketball somewhat closely. Congratulations to Carondelet. Good luck to both teams moving forward.

Saturday Carondelet at Pinewood should be an interesting game. We'll have to see what type of adjustments each coach makes or if any are made at all. Then I do look forward to Carondelet vs California in the last regular season game. I heard a rumor that Alexis Hooper is not on California this season( but I see her listed on the roster) which would give California another big to help neutralize Carondelet's post dominance. Perhaps they have others with size inside? I know generally Gabby Edmond uses her size and does her damage out on the perimeter. Should be a good game. Hopefully not allowed to get out of control on either side.

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It's hard to argue any of those facts. Except I notice at least a couple of potential so call game changers on JV. The game wasn't as close as the final score. But the score was about what I pictured it being based on my knowledge of the way each team plays the game. I did picture SRV shooting the ball a bit better and using better defensive schemes inside. But as I always say "you can't control your performance". Some games you'll shoot well, and other games you can't throw a rock in the ocean. And some times you run into games where you don't matchup as well as you would like to.

As far as the future goes for Carondelet, I agree, once next year's class graduates the free ride might turn into at least a small fee. But I must say even though Carondelet may not enjoy the typical size advantage, they will still have girls who will get after the ball and give a terrific effort. I think if brought along and developed right Kimani Holloway #42, Jalyssa Portis #4, and perhaps 1 or 2 others on JV could be so call game changers. But the talent has to be recognized and developed. Not sure however it will happen under the current system. So they may want to look into the blue print teams like Eastside College Prep, Miramonte, Pinewood, Bishop Odowd (this years team), and so many other teams often without much size who realize basketball is played 5 on 5 on a full court not 3 on 3 on a half court. I always appreciate the coaches who know how to put the players they are coaching in the best lanes for each individual based on their size, talent,basketball IQ, and skill level. Those coaches typically develop better and more confident and productive players by the time each player leaves their program. Provide excellent development, confidence, and exposure. And they often find more team success as well.

 

[personalogic]

Saturday Carondelet at Pinewood should be an interesting game. We'll have to see what type of adjustments each coach makes or if any are made at all. Then I do look forward to Carondelet vs California in the last regular season game. I heard a rumor that Alexis Hooper is not on California this season( but I see her listed on the roster) which would give California another big to help neutralize Carondelet's post dominance. Perhaps they have others with size inside? I know generally Gabby Edmond uses her size and does her damage out on the perimeter. Should be a good game. Hopefully not allowed to get out of control on either side.

Edit....
It's hard to argue any of those facts. Except I notice at least a couple of potential so call game changers on JV. The game wasn't as close as the final score. But the score was about what I pictured it being based on my knowledge of the way each team plays the game. I did picture SRV shooting the ball a bit better and using better defensive schemes inside. But as I always say "you can't control your performance". Some games you'll shoot well, and other games you can't throw a rock in the ocean. And some times you run into games where you don't matchup as well as you would like to.

As far as the future goes for Carondelet, I agree, once next year's class graduates the free ride might turn into at least a small fee. But I must say even though Carondelet may not enjoy the typical size advantage, they will still have girls who will get after the ball and give a terrific effort. I think if brought along and developed right Kimani Holloway #42, Jalyssa Portis #4, and perhaps 1 or 2 others on JV could be so call game changers. But the talent has to be recognized and developed. Not sure however it will happen under the current system. So they may want to look into the blue print teams like Eastside College Prep, Miramonte, Pinewood, Bishop Odowd (this years team), and so many other teams often without much size who realize basketball is played 5 on 5 on a full court not 3 on 3 on a half court. I always appreciate the coaches who know how to put the players they are coaching in the best lanes for each individual based on their size, talent,basketball IQ, and skill level. Those coaches typically develop better and more confident and productive players by the time each player leaves their program. They often find more team success as well.

Agreed regarding Kimani Holloway. A better player than many of the varsity players, and the most athletic player at the school. But they have her on JV and not even starting on JV. Can't be a game changer if the coaches can't figure out you need to be in the game.

 

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Agreed regarding Kimani Holloway. A better player than many of the varsity players, and the most athletic player at the school. But they have her on JV and not even starting on JV. Can't be a game changer if the coaches can't figure out you need to be in the game.

That's 100 ! But not too uncommon in the game of high school politics. Hopefully the spirit remains high during the process. It can be very crushing to a young player. I go to bat for the young players because I personally experienced the politics as both a child and an adult. Definitely a hard life lesson unfortunately.

 

[Norcal_Fan]

Agreed regarding Kimani Holloway. A better player than many of the varsity players, and the most athletic player at the school. But they have her on JV and not even starting on JV. Can't be a game changer if the coaches can't figure out you need to be in the game.

Hard to question a coach/program that has had a lot of success. There has to be rhyme or reason for the best player at the school not on varsity AND not starting on JV. Perhaps it's her attitude, misses practice, doesn't go hard...who knows. At that level, I find it hard to believe that a lot of politics are involved, especially when these teams/programs want to win.

A game changer is someone you cant live without. If coach has her on JV and JV isn't even starting her, then is she really that much of a game changer? (i haven't seen her so can't say..just asking a question).

 

[ClayK]

By the way, what was the final score of the game? It's not on MaxPreps.

 

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Hard to question a coach/program that has had a lot of success. There has to be rhyme or reason for the best player at the school not on varsity AND not starting on JV. Perhaps it's her attitude, misses practice, doesn't go hard...who knows. At that level, I find it hard to believe that a lot of politics are involved, especially when these teams/programs want to win.

Correction...... I don't recall Norcal_Fan or anyone else calling Kimani "the best player" at the school. I won't go there at least not at this point. But the potential is very high. And I do agree she may indeed be the most athletic player at the school. And has a great motor and toughness which are both un-teachable.

A game changer is someone you cant live without. If coach has her on JV and JV isn't even starting her, then is she really that much of a game changer? (i haven't seen her so can't say..just asking a question).

We can sugarcoat the game or tell the truth. Politics in high school sports happens all across the country. I've seen it in New York as well as Hartford Ct. when I spent time there. I've seen it in Las Vegas when I spent time there. I've definitely seen it in my time in California.

As for Kimani, I know she was dealing with an injury during evaluations. That was rumored to have played a part in how she has been managed. Every player is replaceable. So there really is no such thing as a player you can't live without. Of course if your aiming at a open division championship that might be another story. Not every team is aiming for that outside of Mitty and SMS, and perhaps Salesian and Pinewood. Carondelet has enjoyed a greater pool to select from than most in their league. Not to knock any of the fine coaches they have had there but that has contributed to their success with regard to league dominance and NCS. AKA a lot of success.

Clay,

I personally don't recall the score. Other than an 11 point difference. I think Carondelet may have scored in the neighborhood of 65 points. But don't quote me on that.

 

[personalogic]

Hard to question a coach/program that has had a lot of success. There has to be rhyme or reason for the best player at the school not on varsity AND not starting on JV. Perhaps it's her attitude, misses practice, doesn't go hard...who knows. At that level, I find it hard to believe that a lot of politics are involved, especially when these teams/programs want to win.

A game changer is someone you cant live without. If coach has her on JV and JV isn't even starting her, then is she really that much of a game changer? (i haven't seen her so can't say..just asking a question).

Clay,

Ask Erin, Mia, and PK what they think. They have all played extensively with Kimani. Or, better yet, watch the C-let JV and varsity teams paying particular attention to Kimani and the other sophomores who get rotated in on varsity.

 

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Clay,

Ask Erin, Mia, and PK what they think. They have all played extensively with Kimani. Or, better yet, watch the C-let JV and varsity teams paying particular attention to Kimani and the other sophomores who get rotated in on varsity.

personalogic,

Funny you mentioned asking some of the players themselves. I also suggested the players listed on the so call top 40 list that a few of the local media sources put together be asked who they think belongs on the list also. Because there is a good chance they could do a better job selecting talented players than a lot of coaches and media heads do. As I have been quoted as saying "the real ballers know who else can ball". And ballers don't have time for politics, they just keep balling.

 

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Correction...... So we don't get it twisted..........

"Hard to question a coach/program that has had a lot of success. There has to be rhyme or reason for the best player at the school not on varsity AND not starting on JV". ( There definitely is a reason) But is it reasonable?

I don't recall personalogic, or anyone else calling Kimani "the best player" at the school. I wouldn't go that far, at least not at this point. But the potential is very high. And I do agree she may indeed be mentioned as the most athletic player at the school. She has a great motor and toughness which are both un-teachable. From all I have seen and heard she appears to have a great attitude. And I agree, she would already make a great addition to the varsity squad IMO. Every team could use the likes of such a player. Carondelet might even increase their chances of winning an open game and perhaps more with her speed and motor in the lineup/ rotation IMO.


Back in the day when playing in and around some of the best, it wouldn't be uncommon for a player to step aside, when they knew their coach was putting them before a player who they knew was better or more deserving to be on the floor. Because team and winning took priority over clicks, politics, favoritism, and honest poor judgements. At the very least players would speak up on behalf of another deserving player. Not common these days at many schools, not just Carondelet. It's more common to compete negatively against your very own teammates. As opposed to wanting a better team and supporting your own teammates. Those types of sacrifices, accountability, courage, unity and integrity, wins championships. Not selfishness or just looking the other way. Ask Andre Iguodala