CIF Playoff Flaws

[JCBUST]

There's a very good reason why this isn't a crime. I'll elaborate below.



Why? Be specific. Explain how the Texas system could possibly happen here, much less be good for California.



This doesn't work because the divisions do not line up, plus the sections don't all have the same number of divisions.

Plus, you simply could not have only 5 divisions in California. People really need to get over that.



You need to remember that, regardless of in which Midwest state you were raised, California is going to have at least two-three times more teams. You simply could not break it down like this. Further, 2000 students might be a decent-sized school in NorCal, it's only a medium-sized school in SoCal.

Further, if you put in a sliding scale, you automatically put NorCal at a disadvantage because all of the schools will be smaller than their SoCal counterparts.



Great... but in 4 years, we're going to end up with the same sort of setup we have now, since there are a number of very large schools (3000+ students) that just aren't all that good.



Ok, I think that people need to get over this, too. We, especially in NorCal, have this notion that "only the best teams" should be advancing. That's not really the point of having multiple divisions. What should be happening is that the best teams that represent their divisions advance.

People want runner-up teams to stop advancing? Fine, but the result is that B- and C- league teams advance. In case nobody has noticed, this is exactly what happens in all other sections. There's nothing unique about the CCS that should prevent this.

If you have 3000+ students, you have no excuse not be competitive period!

 

[joebl]

If you have 3000+ students, you have no excuse not be competitive period!

Depends on where the school is. Shifting demographics make a big difference. I remember reading a few years back how Mission San Jose a school of ~2300 students dropped Football because only 12 kids tried out, yet they had over 70 Badminton players tryout. Demographic shift in South Bay has affected Football a ton and why you see fewer and fewer quality teams come from CCS.

 

[JCBUST]

Depends on where the school is. Shifting demographics make a big difference. I remember reading a few years back how Mission San Jose a school of ~2300 students dropped Football because only 12 kids tried out, yet they had over 70 Badminton players tryout. Demographic shift in South Bay has affected Football a ton and why you see fewer and fewer quality teams come from CCS.

Again, if I'm the HC on campus and can get 3-4 others on campus we would be competitive. I guarantee you their were 40 players that did not come out. If you build it, they will come. I'm not talking section championship, but competitive. Badminton players are quick as sh**, that tells me you have a ton of slot recievers.

 

[SpeedCity51]

Again, if I'm the HC on campus and can get 3-4 others on campus we would be competitive. I guarantee you their were 40 players that did not come out. If you build it, they will come. I'm not talking section championship, but competitive. Badminton players are quick as sh**, that tells me you have a ton of slot recievers.

And your post tells me you’ve never actually coached at a large school with a majority Asian population.

 

[FBAddict]

Yes the most powerful by enrollment. Hilmar's enrollment would not be near a Folsom. They would be the lowest enrollment division. California is going to the trophy system so it doesn't matter.

Hilmar CBED 647
TKA CBED 601

I'm still not getting what you are trying to tell us. Maybe you are saying that any school under the enrollment of 625 should be allowed to advance? Or maybe you are suggesting that that 200-300 school in California shouldn't bother playing football because they are too small? Or maybe you think that only the top 100 teams (however you would meter that out) should even bother with the notion to aspire for the best in state in their class?

Divisions proportionate to to the size of state is a normal process. My state, when in school, had about 300 teams with 4 divisions which about average for its size. In California, that equals about 14 divisions....

 

[Cal 14]

If you have 3000+ students, you have no excuse not be competitive period!

There are schools in Orange County with over 3000 students, but most of them are Vietnamese. Why isn't James Logan more competitive?

Demographics play a large role.

 

[Cal 14]

Hilmar CBED 647
TKA CBED 601

I'm still not getting what you are trying to tell us. May you are saying that any school under the enrollment of 625 should be allowed to advance? Or maybe you are suggesting that that 200-300 school in California shouldn't bother playing football because they are too small? Or maybe you think that only the top 100 teams (however you would meter that out) should even bother with the notion to aspire for the best in state in their class?

Divisions proportionate to to the size of state is a normal process. My state, when in school, had about 300 teams with 4 divisions which about average for its size. In California, that equals about 14 divisions....

Mathematics escapes many on this site.