If DLS wins out could they ask the power that be for a rematch with St Francis or a shot at Serra for the right to play the OPEN? I recall many years ago reading here that DLS was bothered with Grant getting the open bid instead of them because DLS wanted to play the against best. Yes I do remember that Grant won the Open and DLS lost in their State match up that year.
Could DLS seek Elimination if “The Folsom Rule”?
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Why? DLS has never shown a desire to settle for a also ran bowl (that’s more Folsom’s like territory) it’s always been an all in attitude for the Spartans.
Because they simply aren't the best team in NorCal. #3 behind Rocklin and St. Francis
I Disagree…. DLS has no Desire to play in D1A…. This is the Perfect Time to try to have the Open Play in for Nor Cal Reinstated and get rid of the Folsom Rule…. DLS lost to a Nor Cal Team This year so the Nor Cal Coaches can no longer say “DLS is Unbeatable”.
The reason it won’t happen is because none of the other Nor Cal Coaches want this because no one wants to play DLS to go to a SBG…..
It’s going to be unfortunate for whoever has to play in the D1A play in game Because DLS isn’t losing another game this year….
DLS just beat a 6-0 League Rival with a running clock missing 30 players and The Top Player in Nor Cal…. No one in Nor Cal wants to play an elimination game against DLS…..
Why would anyone take the opinion of the fluffer for the 15th best public school in Nor Cal.
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BART!
I thought some loud mouthed idiot said Folsom was number 1 in Norcal.....yet lost again to DLS.....which they are 0-5 on the field...then the same douche bag claimed Folsom would clobber Rocklin...... He has been a fool evrytime he opens his mouth.........
Yes, @pastyfastquick3 is a Fool… He is now using Rocklin’s Success, just like he used SF success to Troll DLS…. He is Sad and Desperate…. 🤣🤣
How about a Thread…. FOLSOM THE #1 TEAM IN NOR CAL, GETS PUMMELED 71-17 BY 2 LOWER RANKED NOR CAL TEAMS…. 🤣🤣🤣
That actually started in 2006 when DLS got the D1 game over equally undefeated Grant Union. That was the 1st year of the new State Bowl format and they only had 3 games.
A lot of people thought the committee gave GHS the nod in 2008 to even things out. But the Pacers were more deserving with regard to on-field accomplishments. They were undefeated and beat 2 State Champs. DLS had 1 loss, albeit to a Nat’l power, and a very close 1-point win over 4 loss Serra-San Mateo. Based upon resumes, the committee made the correct choice in both instances (2006 and 2008). In 2009 not so much.
Crazy how not long ago Grant was the Power in SJS and now they may go 0-10, although losing a couple close game to decent teams.
Yep. But their consistent winning ways lasted a long, long time. Not just a decade. Or even two.
They went 23 seasons w/o a losing season until 2017. They only have 8 losing seasons since 1966.
They qualified for postseason play for 26 consecutive seasons until 2017.
Since the CIF/SJS implemented postseason play for D1 in 1976 (formerly referred to as 'AAA'), the Pacers qualified for postseason play in 34 out of 44 postseasons played.
Prior to this millennium, it used to be much more difficult to qualify for postseason play as generally only 2 teams from each league made it, which makes their postseason consistency all that much more impressive.
They are closing in on 600 wins and are easily the winningest large school program in SJS history.
It truly is sad to see how far they have fallen the past decade and especially the past 3 seasons.
Same applies to Nevada Union, who started their steep decline around the same time roughly a decade ago.
Has HSFB now come to this? Where DLS could beg for rematches they lose so they don't have to play in a certain level SBG game? They haven't earned the right to play for the open on the field, so they will play lower. Stop crying and move on.
Nevada Union another good example. When I moved to the area it was Grant, NU, Jesuit, Elk Grove and a few others I’m missing. Heck, all of these new HS in EG weren’t around so you can imagine how good the herd was.
Grass Valley/Nevada City has become more retirement communities and lost a lot of younger families.
Newer schools and open enrollment has hurt Grant along with demographic shifts. It didn’t help coach Al stayed too long but I don’t think it mattered in the grand scheme. Btw, Grant will still be very good in hoops. You only need 3-4 really good players and a handful of role players and they consistently have that. Football takes much more coordination, coaching, and size.
it’s sad to see but the times are different and the shifts seem permanent to me.
Patsy, go back to the basement. Folsom lost and the adults are talking football. No need for you.
You mad? 0-5! Folsom got beat so bad your rooting for Rocklin now. Can’t wait until next Saturday to see who’s bandwagon you jump on next.
Not that the year Grant beat two State Champs, they played against, I believe, Idaho state champ and another small state champ. Those state champs probably could not have competed in California's lower division, so those wins should never have been used to judge the open game representative.
They beat Alta (Utah) one year who was pretty good for awhile.
Yes overall Utah is completely terrible. But the top team (Binghams, Corner Canyon, Lone Peaks etc) yearly would be top 10 in California. There is just no depth, but they will produce a team who can compete at a high level. Similar to Nevada, a 2 team state then huge drop off.
He has zero clue. Pay no mind.
Alta was legit back then. They won the 5A title both years they faced Grant in 2007 and 2008 and was the runner up the season before in 2006.
During their 2 title runs they beat Bingham 3 out of 4 times and beat Grant by 19 in their first matchup before the Pacers exacted revenge the next season.
Alta plays Grant to within 7 points (after blowing them out the season before) who then goes on to beat the PAC5 champion in the OPEN game yet this clown claims they couldn’t compete in lower divisions. Brilliant.
Talk about destroying your own credibility. It’s been par for the course for this dude lately. It was already bad enough when he claimed the SFL has been a weak league for a decade.
You can’t make this stuff up. Except he does!
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Yeah Alta was coached by Les Hamilton back then. He was a really good option QB for Petaluma high in the late 80’s- early 90’s.
Like I said, some around here are knowledgeable and some aren’t. They just blow a lot of hot air and hope nobody notices.
You’ve been around NCP for quite a long while and clearly fit into the first group and like me can usually tell who is full of $#!t and who isn’t.
Regardless, these clowns need to be called out and checked because there are some younger members here that are knowledgeable but weren’t following HS ball that far back thus don’t know when someone is talking out their @$$ about those teams/seasons.
Like I said, somebody doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Both about the SFL and Utah football, especially about Alta during that time period.
Regardless, you bring up another good example.
A little off topic but Grant sure has some dogs on that line, huge, well coached. They have got to strike gold at qb soon, they are way overdue. Moving out of SFL is the best recipe for them. They will be back in business soon.
As a matter of Authority on theoretical matchups (still the reigning pickem champ), I believe a post season form DLS beats rocklin by double digits.
Sir the reigning champ? I believe I have that honor? Last pick em steak put out I pulled it out last few weeks on won it, hence “reining champ”!
Not sure how to settle this? Grab out best guns, 20 paces and have a duel? Seems a little 1800’s ish? Thumb war? Beer chug contest?
All I know is the trophy I had made should be enroute (probably sitting off Long Beach) the T shirt shop also has my “Pick em Champ” shirt ready to go as well. Not giving up the title without a fight
.Oh and I agree I personally would favor DLS by about 13 right now if they were to match up with Rocklin.
I remember him. Those were some good Petaluma teams back in the day. Heck of an athlete. Thanks for the memory bella123.
Petaluma was usually good under legendary Coach Ellison from the moment he moved up from the City up until he retired in 2010.
Lol, I thought that might provoke a resounding fact check. l guess it’s “former champ” from here on out. I do like the beer chug idea, something fancy like naty light or keystone, you know the good stuff you serve on the special occasion.🤮🤢Sir the reigning champ? I believe I have that honor? Last pick em steak put out I pulled it out last few weeks on won it, hence “reining champ”!
Not sure how to settle this? Grab out best guns, 20 paces and have a duel? Seems a little 1800’s ish? Thumb war? Beer chug contest?
All I know is the trophy I had made should be enroute (probably sitting off Long Beach) the T shirt shop also has my “Pick em Champ” shirt ready to go as well. Not giving up the title without a fight
Oh and I agree I personally would favor DLS by about 13 right now if they were to match up with Rocklin.
Yep. Good career. Seemed like Gondola and MC were his kryptonite come playoff time.
This brought up McClymonds in my mind. They were the gold standard in hoops for many years. Now they are a small School football power house. I just don't understand how they have fallen so far in hoops, but shine in Football.
Here's wishing you great football.
Good point. They were really good still in hoops about 10 years ago but it’s been a pretty long drought. Maybe O’Dowd pulls those kids away? I don’t know.
Not to mention St Marys/SJND/Salesian are fairly close. Still odd they can’t have a decent squad.
At least the OAL has them, look at AAA this year, even Lincoln who has a good coach and is usually decent is way down. Balboa and Mission and even Gailieo have been decent in the recent past but the Covid year just killed them all. Not to mention the ongoing demographic shifts of less children in the city that has been ongoing and snowballing for 20-30 years now. Plus all of the privates.
Sad that the two teams that played in the first open game have fallen so drastically.The great history of those two schools needs to be recognized and I hope they can make it back to the top again.What a great game that was
So, DLS for years, benefits from not having to play in an Open regional game, but the minute they are relegated to a regional game, all the DLS fans want to change the rules so they can try to go back to the Open?
My 5 year old knows better than that. Seems like all you don't like this Patsy guy, but he has a valid point.
My 5 year old knows better than that. Seems like all you don't like this Patsy guy, but he has a valid point.
The thing about those "state champs"... both Utah and Idaho had about the same (or fewer) number of schools than the CCS in 2008. Winning either of those states wasn't much different than winning a CIF section.
Also, the Idaho winner (Highland) also had a loss to Utah's #27 team. I remember during and after that game, some SJS people were talking about how Highland could be a top 10 team... in the SJS.
Alta was a legit win, but Highland? Nah.
Kinda goes to show how little the CIF voters knew about the high school football world and other areas. I can only imagine the argument in the meeting from Saco...
CCS Commish - "Bellarmine beat the SJS D-I winner. That's a really good win."
Saco - "Oh, yeah, that's not a big deal. St. Mary's wasn't that good. It's only a section. But, look! Grant beat two state champions!" (while ignoring that the SJS had more schools than those two states)
Voters - "Grant for Open, DLS for D-I."
Saco - "Hey! How 'bout my St. Mary's for the D-II bowl game?!?!?"
DLS is not the Ones who Wanted the Open Regional gone so the “Second Best” team in Nor Cal wouldn’t be eliminated from SBG’s….. That was Folsom and all the other Nor Cal Coaches who are Afraid to play DLS in a win or go home game with a SBG on the line…..
Does your 5 year Old Know That?…. 🤣
Unbelievable they want to talk their way into an OPEN game they don't qualify for based on reputation.
This is why people don't take many of these posters serious.
