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This is called the “Battle of the Shield” game each year in honor of fallen Rocklin police officer Matt Redding who was a Del Oro graduate. Always a moment of silence in his honor.

Rocklin is 2-6 and from a pure CP power rating is ranked 8th in SJS D2. This is a must win for Rocklin as they need 4 wins to get into the playoffs.

This is a huge and perhaps DO’s biggest rivalry game each year so you can throw out records and power ratings as these two teams know each other very well and always an emotional game so anything can happen.

DO on the other hand needs to make a statement in this game, especially after last week, that they are worthy of bowling.

I don’t know about suspensions yet from brawl last week but no excuses from DO as they have depth this year.

While I want to see DO make a statement unfortunately as a die hard DO fan I think this will be a contested game but upside to that is hardening goodness for Folsom and playoffs.
 
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I don't see this as a big rivalry game anymore. The addition of WHS to the City of Rocklin, the Quarry Bowl has become the neighborhood rival and now a league game. DO is no bigger a game anymore than OR or GB. In addition to CT leaving Loomis, there is a noticeable change in the atmosphere. It used to be Placer for DO and then RHS but times are changing...
 
WWHS44 said:
I don't see this as a big rivalry game anymore. The addition of WHS to the City of Rocklin, the Quarry Bowl has become the neighborhood rival and now a league game. DO is no bigger a game anymore than OR or GB. In addition to CT leaving Loomis, there is a noticeable change in the atmosphere. It used to be Placer for DO and then RHS but times are changing...
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Going to have to disagree. Kids from each school know each other, I’m sure as in past some of the players have played on the same jr teams and I still see quite a bit of DO Black Hole students and adults wearing the “Stick Rocklin” t-shirts. Maybe some of the luster of the rivalry has reduced a bit but I see/feel a healthy rivalry.
 
smashmouthrick said:
I still see quite a bit of DO Black Hole students and adults wearing the “Stick Rocklin” t-shirts. Maybe some of the luster of the rivalry has reduced a bit but I see/feel a healthy rivalry.
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DO has been selling "Stick Rocklin" T-Shirts for the past 3 weeks
 
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Yup, going to see plenty of these Friday night.

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I totally get it.....But you of all people know the shirt used to say "STICK PLACER" for many more years than they have played Rocklin.....Seems DO is trying to create something that no longer exists....just like it doesn't exist with Placer anymore.......one way streets don't sell rivalry....I am close enough to WHS, RHS and Placer....WHS has never had a rival with DO...The luster with Placer wore off decades ago and RHS has moved on to WHS.....times are a changing....
 
WWHS44 said:
I totally get it.....But you of all people know the shirt used to say "STICK PLACER" for many more years than they have played Rocklin.....Seems DO is trying to create something that no longer exists....just like it doesn't exist with Placer anymore.......one way streets don't sell rivalry....I am close enough to WHS, RHS and Placer....WHS has never had a rival with DO...The luster with Placer wore off decades ago and RHS has moved on to WHS.....times are a changing....
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Agree that times are changing. In fact possibility exists that @championcif75 ”Straw Chewers”;) work their way to SFL and the rivalry reignites.
 
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Agreed Smash and I will be at Placer's last home game with Champ on Friday night......yes I have allot of family and friends who attend or attended Placer....and WHS and RHS....and a few scattered in at DO also...lol...
 
IDK. I can see WWHS’s point about Whitney. That certainly has developed into a big rivalry. Even back 10 years ago there was pressure put on the Rocklin youth coaches not to lose to Whitney. And the Whitney faithful parade to the game when it’s played @ RHS.

But there’s still something about DO v Rocklin. Especially when both teams are good. That’s not the case this year, but I still expect a heated contest. While DO still has a significant edge in the all-time W/L record, these two have played some classic games. And of course, Rocklin has always felt like the lil brother to DO since the school opened 25 years ago —- just as Whitney feels about Rocklin.

Perhaps I’m wrong, but when Rocklin has a good team — they draw more and have a larger passion for the DO game than for Whitney. That game has been around longer and DO is almost always good. From the DO perspective, Folsom should be the top rival but since those games haven’t been overly competitive I still believe it’s Rocklin. And it sounds like Smashmouth does too.
 
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I've always felt that many of the SFL teams have an ongoing rivalry, as leagues should, but not to the level of printing shirts...I too didn't know about it being the "shield game". That's awesome
 
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IDK. I can see WWHS’s point about Whitney. That certainly has developed into a big rivalry. Even back 10 years ago there was pressure put on the Rocklin youth coaches not to lose to Whitney. And the Whitney faithful parade to the game when it’s played @ RHS.

But there’s still something about DO v Rocklin. Especially when both teams are good. That’s not the case this year, but I still expect a heated contest. While DO still has a significant edge in the all-time W/L record, these two have played some classic games. And of course, Rocklin has always felt like the lil brother to DO since the school opened 25 years ago —- just as Whitney feels about Rocklin.

Perhaps I’m wrong, but when Rocklin has a good team — they draw more and have a larger passion for the DO game than for Whitney. That game has been around longer and DO is almost always good. From the DO perspective, Folsom should be the top rival but since those games haven’t been overly competitive I still believe it’s Rocklin. And it sounds like Smashmouth does too.
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I think allot of the DO stuff goes back to when Rocklin kids had a choice of where to go to play sports....There was no RHS so a choice had to be made and it was Roseville or Rocklin.....so if an older sibling choose DO, the younger also attended DO whether by own choice or parents preference bc of a prior tie to the school. This created much of the rivalry......that breech is fading as the years go by.......

I feel sh17 has a great point, the SFL coaches have a camaraderie of sorts yet are ultra competitive. That in it's self makes the league special...
 
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ESPN Ken said:
It is my understanding that Berry will sit, but SJS ruled Veske eligible to play against Rocklin.
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Does it really matter? Rocklin is terrible, just like Granite Bay and Whitney. Del Oro is loaded with talent, but Rocklin would lose by a wide margin even if the Del Oro cheerleaders suited up.
 
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Does it really matter? Rocklin is terrible, just like Granite Bay and Whitney. Del Oro is loaded with talent, but Rocklin would lose by a wide margin even if the Del Oro cheerleaders suited up.
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That’s some moxy right there.

In other words, D.O. is really good, but I’m sure the Thunder has a "puncher's chance" and likely doesn’t mind playing huckleberry to the unstoppable Golden Eagles. Lol

BTW, just watched some highlights from Granite Bay blanking Del Oro in the playoffs last year...
 
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Santa Ball said:
That’s some moxy right there.

In other words, D.O. is really good, but I’m sure the Thunder has a "puncher's chance" and likely doesn’t mind playing huckleberry to the unstoppable Golden Eagles. Lol

BTW, just watched some highlights from Granite Bay blanking Del Oro in the playoffs last year...
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New Rivalry is Grant, shirt should read
“ brawloutGrant”
 
ESPN Ken said:
It is my understanding that Berry will sit, but SJS ruled Veske eligible to play against Rocklin.
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Veske is playing. The refs made a mistake last week in ejecting him, in what was admittedly a large and hard to see everything dust up.

Losing Berry is a big loss though.
 
ThunderRam said:
IDK. I can see WWHS’s point about Whitney. That certainly has developed into a big rivalry. Even back 10 years ago there was pressure put on the Rocklin youth coaches not to lose to Whitney. And the Whitney faithful parade to the game when it’s played @ RHS.

But there’s still something about DO v Rocklin. Especially when both teams are good. That’s not the case this year, but I still expect a heated contest. While DO still has a significant edge in the all-time W/L record, these two have played some classic games. And of course, Rocklin has always felt like the lil brother to DO since the school opened 25 years ago —- just as Whitney feels about Rocklin.

Perhaps I’m wrong, but when Rocklin has a good team — they draw more and have a larger passion for the DO game than for Whitney. That game has been around longer and DO is almost always good. From the DO perspective, Folsom should be the top rival but since those games haven’t been overly competitive I still believe it’s Rocklin. And it sounds like Smashmouth does too.
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I think you are in the right track. I have kids at DO - Rocklin and Granite Bay are still the main & huge rivals, then Whitney, then Oak Ridge, then Folsom. Grant will take some time.

Whitney, Rocklin, Granite Bay and DO kids grow up playing baseball, basketball and soccer together and some of the football kids move around those programs a few playing on two or more teams before high school starts. There is more at stake between those schools because of close geography, history and familiarity of coaches, families and kids.

Very little of that exists with those South Placer schools and OR, Folsom or Grant.
 
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Whitney, Rocklin, Granite Bay and DO kids grow up playing baseball, basketball and soccer together and some of the football kids move around those programs a few playing on two or more teams before high school starts.
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This.

Then add in the classic game history between a couple of those programs. Whitney doesn't have that with Rocklin or DO. Perhaps someday they will. But for now, it's Rocklin-DO and probably GB-DO next.

Regarding Grant Union, assuming they are back on path to be a top program, it may not take long to develop a rivalry with one or more of the SFL schools. Remember, the Pacers and Nevada Union had little in common and were a great distance apart. Yet that developed into one of the best rivalries this area has ever seen -- if not the greatest. The biggest factors that created the rivalry were contrasts between the schools and that both were very, very good for quite some time.

IMO, the same potential exists between GHS and all of the other SFL schools. Judging by the brawl and outcome of last week's game, I'd say that GHS versus DO is the current leader in the club house.
 
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ThunderRam said:
This.

Then add in the classic game history between a couple of those programs. Whitney doesn't have that with Rocklin or DO. Perhaps someday they will. But for now, it's Rocklin-DO and probably GB-DO next.

Regarding Grant Union, assuming they are back on path to be a top program, it may not take long to develop a rivalry with one or more of the SFL schools. Remember, the Pacers and Nevada Union had little in common and were a great distance apart. Yet that developed into one of the best rivalries this area has ever seen -- if not the greatest. The biggest factors that created the rivalry were contrasts between the schools and that both were very, very good for quite some time.

IMO, the same potential exists between GHS and all of the other SFL schools. Judging by the brawl and outcome of last week's game, I'd say that GHS versus DO is the current leader in the club house.
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Yea, Grant and DO got something started Friday night. Good for the league! Close games for Grant with GB and Rocklin probably helped too.

The league needed more competitiveness cause it was down to OR, GB, Rocklin and DO bunched close to each other with Woodcreek, NU and the blue field guys as outliers.
 
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ThunderRam said:
This.

Then add in the classic game history between a couple of those programs. Whitney doesn't have that with Rocklin or DO. Perhaps someday they will. But for now, it's Rocklin-DO and probably GB-DO next.

Regarding Grant Union, assuming they are back on path to be a top program, it may not take long to develop a rivalry with one or more of the SFL schools. Remember, the Pacers and Nevada Union had little in common and were a great distance apart. Yet that developed into one of the best rivalries this area has ever seen -- if not the greatest. The biggest factors that created the rivalry were contrasts between the schools and that both were very, very good for quite some time.

IMO, the same potential exists between GHS and all of the other SFL schools. Judging by the brawl and outcome of last week's game, I'd say that GHS versus DO is the current leader in the club house.
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If bet if you left it to the grant coaches they’d pick folsom or rocklin. Losing to rocklin left a bad taste in their mouth to the point they tried to schedule rocklin the following year and rocklin didn’t want no part of grant. And for folsom we never lost to them in regular season and we never beat them in post season currently sitting at 2-2. Other than those two teams we don’t have a rival if it’s not Nevada union I doubt any rivalry will be bigger we hated each other but it was more on the lines of respect of both programs. For years we believed they use to water the field and take snow days off during our game week we also use to go out to eat with them during game week. One of the best scenes was watching the dog settle on the field and watching Nevada Union walk in from the bleachers through a packed crowd with their radio camper by the goal line. We made shirts about ending the rivalry that’s how serious it was
 
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Just looked at some of Rocklins stats, surprised to see they are a heavy passing team almost 2.5x passing vs run. DO has been playing good D most of the year and have speed in secondary. Will be interesting to see their game plan tonight.
 
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Deltadodger said:
If bet if you left it to the grant coaches they’d pick folsom or rocklin. Losing to rocklin left a bad taste in their mouth to the point they tried to schedule rocklin the following year and rocklin didn’t want no part of grant.
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Good point.

And I don't blame RHS for not wanting any part of those 2010 Pacers considering what happened the previous season and the players each team was returning. ;)

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And for folsom we never lost to them in regular season and we never beat them in post season currently sitting at 2-2.
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I get that 2-2 is recent -- but we can't forget all time. The Pacers are 4-2 against Folsom all-time. Both schools have been around a long, long time.

Deltadodger said:
Other than those two teams we don’t have a rival if it’s not Nevada union I doubt any rivalry will be bigger we hated each other but it was more on the lines of respect of both programs. For years we believed they use to water the field and take snow days off during our game week we also use to go out to eat with them during game week. One of the best scenes was watching the dog settle on the field and watching Nevada Union walk in from the bleachers through a packed crowd with their radio camper by the goal line. We made shirts about ending the rivalry that’s how serious it was
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Good stuff ;)

BTW, I think the biggest testament to the Pacers-Miners rivalry is the W-L record. It current sits at 16-16-1. How freaking great is that!?
The only small advantage the Pacers can claim is that they won the CA tiebreaker in the 1998 game 43-42. So they have a tiebreaker advantage in the series :) Who knows if and when they'll ever meet up again.
 
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Rocklin played like they needed to to win and have a chance for playoffs. Game was more physical than I expected.

SJS official pool is down by about 200 vs previous years and it showed last night. Not so much bad calls as just we’re not decisive and seemed on two occasions did not know the rules. Not sure if others in SJS have seen this trend. Not complaining, just an observation...
 
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I expect Folsom-Grant to become a rivalry.
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We have bad luck with folsom seems as if every time we face them it’s their “best team ever” we need to catch em on a off year or something. Cause we would’ve lost by 100
If that was the old folsom I think they’re being nice so they don’t have to go independent lol
 
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Anyone know the rule about if a fumble can be advanced if player fumbles it forward out of bounds?
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Ball is spotted where it was fumbled, not where it went out of bounds if fumbled forward. Crappy officiating all game, could not believe my eyes. Rocklin was in shutdown mode and Del Oro was bailed out by the zebras.
 
Incorrect, although it took the zebra's forever they got the call correct. No forward fumble rules in HS football regardless of down. Ball fumbled forward past the line to gain with no one in possession, the ball remains A's ball. Zebra's did struggle throughout the night which has been the theme for just about every Friday night crew regardless of game.
 
There are three different sets of rules in football: NFHS (most high schools including CA), NCAA (including some high schools such as Texas), and NFL. All are developed and changed independently.
 
The play in question was 4th down and where the RB fumbled was behind the first down line but ball rolled out of bounds beyond the sticks. First decision was 1st down, second decision was Rocklins ball and finally third decision was 1st down. Was not a question of play being close but simply indecision not knowing the rules.
 
I was referring to NFHS (CA), yes the 1st decision was the correct one and ultimately what they went with. Unfortunately, the white let the LJ get in his ear and overturn it and give Rocklin the ball momentarily. I agree indecision, struggled with a punt late too that was touched by R that they allowed D.O. (K) to advance late too that they had to bring back.
 
Completely agree that the most alarming thing was the refs indecision of the call. Any time you let each sideline change your mind twice about the call you have issues. They must have delayed the game at least 10 plus minutes on this play! I am still a little bit confused on the rule. If what I'm hearing that the right call was made, does that mean coaches can tell players to fumble ball forward purposely (on contact) when short on 4th down near the sideline to give your team a chance? This was truly a great game/atmosphere and its a shame the game was delayed so much.
 
This was a true fumble, however, if a player deliberately did this on 4th down a heady official would call an illegal forward pass (spot foul). Much the same if a player tried to deliberately fumble out of bounds with no timeouts to conserve time (the same foul could be called). Unfortunately, your most inexperienced officials are on the flanks and the NCOA has numerous inexperienced officials.
 
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